Were you ever in the armed forces?

[hitch0403]

And i also know you are dying to take a bite outta me...

May i suggest a rotten apple to suit your taste buds!!

[JediJohnnie]

Falconer2 why dont you take your own mythology and apply it to if YOU really exist!!!

LOL!
Maybe Falconer is simply a figment of his own imagination.

Far Out.......

[hitch0403]

Yeah....nothing worse then an ignorant mythological being

[Falconer02]

Falconer2 why dont you take your own mythology and apply it to if YOU really exist!!!

I do not believe in any mythology as none have been proven to go beyond mythology. I honestly have no connection to what you're talking about here since your foundation is empty. Are you attempting at some 'deep' insult? If so, poorly done.

And i also know you are dying to take a bite outta me...

What? You're digging your own grave here and I'm just getting a bit of entertainment out of it until you start acting like a 10 year old as you are now. I'm just here to disprove your weak claims and call you out on your childish behavior. Not blatantly insult others as you have done numerous times. Remember- your beliefs tell you to avoid me. Not the other way around. You're doing a poor job of that.

May i suggest a rotten apple to suit your taste buds!!

Nope.

Maybe Falconer is simply a figment of his own imagination.

Yeah....nothing worse then an ignorant mythological being

How am I being ignorant? I'm completely open to anything-- you are the ones with beliefs that ignore the problems with your ancient mythology. The irony here is hilarious. Apply this to your ancient god. But I doubt I can expect any decent reasoning from a terrorist supporter and another who admittedly defends slavery and stoning people to death. Far out indeed.

[brum7814]

Yeah, I was a medic in the army reserves from 1999-2010, and did one tour in Iraq during OIF III.   =-P

[Falconer02]

Yeah, I was a medic in the army reserves from 1999-2010, and did one tour in Iraq during OIF III.   =-P

Thanks for getting this thread back on track. Overall was the experience rewarding? Any stories you care to share?

[hitch0403]

Falconer2...im flattered that we got re-aquainted again because of your obsession to address me for my stands on God,bible or whatever,but when i told you a few weeks back id rather NOT deal with you i meant it.

I know your stance on what i believe in and thats fine.I am not looking to convert you or debate this with you.A friendly discussion is ok but i doubt it will turn out that way.Just to show you i am a reasonable & fair person i enjoy discussing the bible etc but again if your stance on it is its just a myth and mine isnt the discussion will not go far and before you know we will be slinging mud.

So ive explained how i feel.Again what is the sense in showing you scriptures etc when you have made up your mind on how u feel.....understand?And to fair back to you i dont share your view-points like u dont share mine.

So we can still be nice to each other and share common denominators whatever they  might be just to show u im an OK guy and that ur an ok guy.

Agreed?

And i wont butt in with your posts if i disagree and vice versa.

[jcribb16]

Yeah...i observe Timothy McVeyes birthday every year.Hes my hero.

You seriously think 1 bad apple --one which had some problems before they joined the military-- equates to demonizing the entire military?
DOES NOT COMPUTE.

While you all praise it.

No force is perfect. There will always be unjust actions and rotten apples in every part of our culture. I highly recommend you look into the Crusades though.

The US army turned this evil monster into a terrorist...NOT God...you idiot!!

Since we're talking terrorism and your needless urge of putting your insulting cult beliefs in this thread, you are aware that the terrorists who smashed the planes into the WTC zealously worshipped the same god as you, correct?

Their god, Allah, is still through Old Testament Law.  They do not accept Christ as Savior, nor do they accept the Hebrews.  They call Jesus a teacher and a prophet.  They also worship Abraham as father, and their views are also based on the illegitimate child (Ismael) born from Sarah's handmaiden, Hagar.  This was suggested by Sarah since she and Abraham weren't able to bear children at that point.  Afterwards, they (Abraham and Sarah) had Isaac, which is the lineage believers support, because of the Covenant between God and Abraham, which ultimately led to the New Testament Law, with Jesus Christ.

So, even though people say those terrorists worship the same God, they aren't really worshiping God because they refuse to acknowledge Christ as Savior, and Christ is the only way to get to God.  Plus they are still living the Old Testament Law, which includes the ugliness and wickedness, that were wiped out through Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection.

For a Christian, in order to worship God the Father, we go through Jesus Christ, His Son, who died on that cross for all sin, and He is now our mediator to God.  When the death, burial, and resurrection happened, we merged into the New Law, or new Testament teachings.

[jcribb16]

Yeah, I was a medic in the army reserves from 1999-2010, and did one tour in Iraq during OIF III.   =-P

Thank you for your service, sacrifice, and commitment. 

[Falconer02]

Falconer2...im flattered that we got re-aquainted again because of your obsession to address me for my stands on God,bible or whatever,but when i told you a few weeks back id rather NOT deal with you i meant it.

Then, again, it is your job to avoid me.

I know your stance on what i believe in and thats fine.I am not looking to convert you or debate this with you.A friendly discussion is ok but i doubt it will turn out that way.Just to show you i am a reasonable & fair person i enjoy discussing the bible etc but again if your stance on it is its just a myth and mine isnt the discussion will not go far and before you know we will be slinging mud.

The problem with your reasoning is you refuse to debate in a debate forum. You simply switch to mud-slinging mode whenever I or others point out a flaw or contradiction in your reasonings. For instance the flood myth you don't believe is defined as mythology? Well it is mythology- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth Saying otherwise is an admittance of ignorance by the very definition of the word. Your belief system can easily be debated to be based off of mythology, romanticizations, and a flat-out illogical basis. I'm fully open to any counter-argument, and yet you label me as the ignorant one.  

So ive explained how i feel.Again what is the sense in showing you scriptures etc when you have made up your mind on how u feel.....understand?And to fair back to you i dont share your view-points like u dont share mine.

Well then don't post in an area devoted to debates if you don't want to debate people who share opposing viewpoints. If you're not here to debate and maybe learn a thing or two, I don't know why you'd stick around. I'm not asking you to leave, but your willingness to post stuff and then act like a jerk when people oppose your posts is some odd form of trolling.

i wont butt in with your posts if i disagree and vice versa.

If you post things that I disagree with in D+D, then I must decline. I grant you the right to butt in to my posts whenever you want just as long as you're trying to make a logical point.

[Falconer02]

Plus they are still living the Old Testament Law, which includes the ugliness and wickedness, that were wiped out through Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection.

Thanks for the history lesson. This part though is peculiar since the majority of xtian fundamentalists that I've debated with here have admitted to still following the OT law (even the ugly stuff). In your eyes, is this just a "pick and choose" what laws they like and dislike, are they secretly twisted and abide by all the sick laws, or are they supposed to just simply abandon the OT aside from the logical parts? Because I remember hearing some NT verses with this god saying xtians need to still apply the old law to their lives.

[hitch0403]

Falconer....as i said in earlier post i support bible and you dont.So of course i dont think flood was a myth and you do.End of story.

You are correct this is a D&D room.I dont have a problem of any dis-agreeing with me...its the way things are said that touches it off or bullying.

An answer when mild turns away rage says a wise proverb.We are all guilty of not heeding it.

Thanx for your reply.

[hitch0403]

Id like to chime in here with OT and NT what i was taught.

In OT Jews were Gods chosen people....thru promise made to Abraham.The seed <messiah>would come thru his line.When Jesus was born that ended.

Id like to also bring up to JCribb RE the armies etc.God used the army to defend as well as punish Israel in OT.As i told u before that changed with Jesus birth.And i gave you examples of Jesus saying love your enemies and how he disciplined Peter when Peter defended him.Thats why JWs remain neutral.They obey words.You cant serve 2 masters.Claim to followe Jesus and then say God bless America.Jesus said His kingdom was No part of this world and he said Satan rules this system for now.You bow down to flag you worship satan.You need scriptures ill be glad to put em up.

[hitch0403]

So far in the answers to your question we have been called terrorists and cultists. That's so funny as we are pacifists and completely neutral when it comes the military of any nation and our leader is Christ, just as the Bible says.

JWs pledge allegiance to Jehovah God as the Sovereign Ruler of the Universe our heavenly Father, and to his kingdom under the kingship of God's Son and our Redeemer, Christ Jesus. That's the kingdom Jesus taught his followers to pray for in the Lord's Prayer. As a flag represent a human government we would be traitors to God if we salute or do an act of worship to it. Just as Jehovah's Witnesses in *bleep* Germany refused to Heil Hitler and went to concentration camps and/or were killed because of their faithful and unmovable stand.

   

Answer to question why JWs dont salute flag
   

[jcribb16]

Plus they are still living the Old Testament Law, which includes the ugliness and wickedness, that were wiped out through Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection.

Thanks for the history lesson. This part though is peculiar since the majority of xtian fundamentalists that I've debated with here have admitted to still following the OT law (even the ugly stuff). In your eyes, is this just a "pick and choose" what laws they like and dislike, are they secretly twisted and abide by all the sick laws, or are they supposed to just simply abandon the OT aside from the logical parts? Because I remember hearing some NT verses with this god saying xtians need to still apply the old law to their lives.

Do you remember the NT verses you are speaking of?  If you can list them, I'll go from there to answer the best I can.
As for the first part, the radical Islamists groups indeed live by the sick laws with the stoning, beheading, etc.  I was mainly speaking of many of the groups like that from those same countries who tolerate no other religion or faith but their own.  Their goal is to infiltrate the world until they are ready to take the final step and try to take over and rule by their own laws.  Woe to those who will not accept their radical Islamist beliefs.