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falcon9

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #180 on: October 16, 2012, 09:59:27 pm »
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God can see the future when He wants to...He also has control when He doesnt want to see it.

Making up ideas of how an all-powerful being can remove his powers? You're quite imaginative. If you're going to say this, show me in the bible where it specifically states how he can switch his powers on and off. If you're going to tell me it's implied, you've again run into faulty reasoning which further cripples your argument since it sounds childish.
Hitch: "Iron Man can't be defeated! He...uhh...pulls out his...lightsaber! Yeah! And he beats your superhero!"
Falcon: "Iron Man does not have a lightsaber. It never says anywhere he has a lightsaber. You're making it up."
Hitch: "He has one now! Iron Man wins by default!"

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Sorry you dont understand.Your heart cant discern it cos its NOT right towards him.

I admit I don't understand your reasoning since it's majorly flawed. Falcon9 is correct about you using an appeal to authority fallacy here (god can't be wrong/Ironman can't lose even if someone spots a flaw) which backs you into a corner where you can only use childish reasonings. If you're going to attempt to learn something new, you're going to have a spin those gears in your mind and see that there's something majorly wrong with your argument. If there's something wrong with mine, please explain it logically. If you can't, just give thought to the faulty reasonings you are using.

Based upon his previous 'replies', it can be extrapolated that he won't bother with using actual reasoning, (being unfamilar with it), and will instead go with his usual irrational unreasoned diversionary dodge attempts, thus avoiding actually responding to the points you raised.  That tactic appears to be fairly typical of religious adherents.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #181 on: October 16, 2012, 10:08:43 pm »
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Based upon his previous 'replies', it can be extrapolated that he won't bother with using actual reasoning, (being unfamilar with it), and will instead go with his usual irrational unreasoned diversionary dodge attempts, thus avoiding actually responding to the points you raised.  That tactic appears to be fairly typical of religious adherents.

Aside from me asking for the verses where it explains where his god can turn it's powers on and off, I challenge him to explain how I'm wrong while using basic logic. If he immediately turns back to quoting the bible after this post, then it's obvious that he has willingly dodged every problem brought up and cannot think freely.

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #182 on: October 16, 2012, 10:20:43 pm »
Aside from me asking for the verses where it explains where his god can turn it's powers on and off, I challenge him to explain how I'm wrong while using basic logic. If he immediately turns back to quoting the bible after this post, then it's obvious that he has willingly dodged every problem brought up and cannot think freely.

Whether or not he can find any 'biblical verses' to support his religious claims, that source has no evidentiary basis itself and would constitute using one unsubstantiated assertion to support another.  Either way wouldn't be a logical substantiation of such an outre`religious claim for which he still has the burden of proof, (since he made the initial claim about 'selective deital ignorance').
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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #183 on: October 16, 2012, 10:38:43 pm »
What good would it do to show you biblical verse anyway....you only bore me to death with your repetitive answers about bible.

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #184 on: October 16, 2012, 10:41:40 pm »
What good would it do to show you biblical verse anyway....you only bore me to death with your repetitive answers about bible.

Boring biblical references remain unsupported hearsay and constitute repetitive non-rebuttals in this Debate & Discuss thread.  Therefore, you are tacitly conceding the debate by avoiding engaging in it.
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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #185 on: October 16, 2012, 10:49:48 pm »
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What good would it do to show you biblical verse anyway....you only bore me to death with your repetitive answers about bible.

My previous reply simply asked for your seeming expertise about the bible, to which you respond with this. Is something wrong? If you don't want to debate, just say so. You don't need to be rude about it.

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #186 on: October 16, 2012, 10:51:22 pm »
Im not debating...

And even if i was do you think id be fool enuff to debate with you 2 fools?

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #187 on: October 16, 2012, 10:55:00 pm »
Falconer2 it does no good to explain bible to you....Read Heb 4:12

Also....you cant discern.Why you ask?Ex why would God even bother warning A&E of penalty of sin if HE knew they were going to anyway?Theres a case there where he chose not to know.But you cant discern that for reasons Heb 4:12 reads

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #188 on: October 16, 2012, 10:58:20 pm »
I dont mind having a discussion if i discern it might be helpful to you understanding or others reading the witness...but im wise enuff to deal with you two that i know whatever i say or show you it would be like spitting into the wind.

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #189 on: October 16, 2012, 10:59:29 pm »
Im not debating...

That much is self-evident from your non-debating posts.

And even if i was do you think id be fool enuff to debate with you 2 fools?

Your question is a rhetorical non sequitur since it contains an inherent contradiction.  The bottomline is that you've admitted to not debating, which leaves the intent of your non-debating remarks as specious religious proselytizing alone.
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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #190 on: October 16, 2012, 11:02:15 pm »
I dont mind having a discussion if i discern it might be helpful to you understanding or others reading the witness...

No, "witnessing" is neither debate nor discussion; it's religious pontifying proselytization.  Neither this thread nor these forums are platforms for unopposed religious proselytizing.

...but im wise enuff to deal with you two that i know whatever i say or show you it would be like spitting into the wind.

On the contrary, no such 'wisdom' as been evident in the dodging replies you've posted.  Your assertion is therefore false.
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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #191 on: October 16, 2012, 11:08:44 pm »
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Im not debating...

Your previous posts say differently since you challenged my claims and attempted to find faults in them.

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And even if i was do you think id be fool enuff to debate with you 2 fools?

You already did. With me, atleast.

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Falconer2 it does no good to explain bible to you....Read Heb 4:12

"For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."

If it were alive and active, I'd honestly expect the messengers to respond better and explain it realistically since you don't seem to be penetrating my 'soul and spirit'. And are you trying to warn me about a god who judges people through thought crimes? That's a horrible trait to attach to a deity. I have no evil thoughs or attitudes here. I'm merely showing faults in your previous arguments that you refuse to acknowledge.

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i know whatever i say or show you it would be like spitting into the wind.

Considering I have contemplated what you've said AND have shown how your errors still stand, it would seem you are not the one paying attention.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2012, 11:12:13 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #192 on: October 16, 2012, 11:12:53 pm »
I find it entertaining too as ive admitted.So stop being clowns if you dont wanna entertain me.

Im sure the two of you realize when i put up a witness with your unsuspected helping me many read these boards.Now im sure you have some on your side too whether they are atheists etc.But if 1 person gets something out of the bible im happy they might investigate it more.

The witnessing is about supporting Gods organization.....

The entertainment is gravy.

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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #193 on: October 16, 2012, 11:16:38 pm »
Im sure the two of you realize when i put up a witness with your unsuspected helping ...

Your proselytizing isn't "unsuspected" since it's been previously pointed out on multiple occasions.   

The witnessing is about supporting Gods organization.....

Once again, the FC forums are not platforms for unopposed religious proselytizing.  This contention is supported by the numerous posted viewpoints opposing such 'witless' "witnessing".
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Re: Were you ever in the armed forces?
« Reply #194 on: October 16, 2012, 11:46:33 pm »
Falcon9,you complain that you cant do this or that on FC forums....I think if others stopped writing scriptures etc and u had nothing to complain about you might have a nervous breakdown by not being able to complain anymore.

So you should thank all of us here keeping you busy in your wheelchair.

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