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« Reply #165 on: October 24, 2012, 02:16:33 pm »
what is with you people at this "troll" stuff?  ??? Cant anyone on here just have a decent conversation anymore? Does it have to be so hateful?
I agree with you.  I, personally, am not trying to be hateful to anyone, but felt the need to stand up to one's overly rude and intolerant comments to people who are allowed to share their opinion in here without feeling like they will be jumped on unmercifully every time they post in a religious thread, which also is allowed in here.  Thank you for saying that.

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« Reply #166 on: October 24, 2012, 02:57:21 pm »
I can't help but think of a certain poster here whenever I hear this song.See if you agree.... ;D
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« Reply #167 on: October 24, 2012, 03:17:20 pm »
There's a ring of familiarization about that. 

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« Reply #168 on: October 24, 2012, 03:28:05 pm »
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I, personally, am not trying to be hateful to anyone, but felt the need to stand up to one's overly rude and intolerant comments to people who are allowed to share their opinion in here without feeling like they will be jumped on unmercifully every time they post in a religious thread, which also is allowed in here. 

It's can also become necessary to object to any religious superstition directly responsible for the oppression, torture nd deaths of hundreds of thousands of people who didn't follow that particular rude and impolite self-delusion.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #169 on: October 24, 2012, 03:32:20 pm »
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I, personally, am not trying to be hateful to anyone, but felt the need to stand up to one's overly rude and intolerant comments to people who are allowed to share their opinion in here without feeling like they will be jumped on unmercifully every time they post in a religious thread, which also is allowed in here. 

It's can also become necessary to object to any religious superstition directly responsible for the oppression, torture nd deaths of hundreds of thousands of people who didn't follow that particular rude and impolite self-delusion.

Objection and opposition are fine.  Adding your personal hatred and accusations, along with your bias and prejudices, with not presenting correctly and honestly, is wrong.  So I, in turn, will oppose your rude remarks then.

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« Reply #170 on: October 24, 2012, 03:42:06 pm »
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I, personally, am not trying to be hateful to anyone, but felt the need to stand up to one's overly rude and intolerant comments to people who are allowed to share their opinion in here without feeling like they will be jumped on unmercifully every time they post in a religious thread, which also is allowed in here.

It's can also become necessary to object to any religious superstition directly responsible for the oppression, torture and deaths of hundreds of thousands of people who didn't follow that particular rude and impolite self-delusion.

Objection and opposition are fine.  Adding your personal hatred and accusations, along with your bias and prejudices, with not presenting correctly and honestly, is wrong.  So I, in turn, will oppose your rude remarks then.

The various xtian-instigated crusades, inquistions and witch hunts did occur and were presented as xtian-instigated because they were.  There's no "bias and prejudice" in pointing out that those xtian fundies maimed and killed hundreds of thousands of people who didn't believe in the xtian 'religion'.  You can oppose that, like any holocast-denier can however, the facts oppose such opposition.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #171 on: October 24, 2012, 04:05:18 pm »
The various xtian-instigated crusades, inquistions and witch hunts did occur and were presented as xtian-instigated because they were.  There's no "bias and prejudice" in pointing out that those xtian fundies maimed and killed hundreds of thousands of people who didn't believe in the xtian 'religion'.  You can oppose that, like any holocast-denier can however, the facts oppose such opposition.


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« Reply #172 on: October 24, 2012, 04:10:51 pm »
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« Reply #173 on: October 24, 2012, 04:26:19 pm »
"He's got too much--time on his hands...."

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« Reply #174 on: October 24, 2012, 04:28:30 pm »
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« Reply #175 on: October 24, 2012, 07:54:55 pm »
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I, personally, am not trying to be hateful to anyone, but felt the need to stand up to one's overly rude and intolerant comments to people who are allowed to share their opinion in here without feeling like they will be jumped on unmercifully every time they post in a religious thread, which also is allowed in here.

It's can also become necessary to object to any religious superstition directly responsible for the oppression, torture and deaths of hundreds of thousands of people who didn't follow that particular rude and impolite self-delusion.

Objection and opposition are fine.  Adding your personal hatred and accusations, along with your bias and prejudices, with not presenting correctly and honestly, is wrong.  So I, in turn, will oppose your rude remarks then.

The various xtian-instigated crusades, inquistions and witch hunts did occur and were presented as xtian-instigated because they were.  There's no "bias and prejudice" in pointing out that those xtian fundies maimed and killed hundreds of thousands of people who didn't believe in the xtian 'religion'.  You can oppose that, like any holocast-denier can however, the facts oppose such opposition.
So in that respect, you continue to hold the Germans responsible even today for the horror that those ones did back then?  It's in the past, those people are gone, and Christians, (most that is, except for those few rotten apples,) are being held responsible today anyway?  You have a real problem, sir.  You are a danger to Christians with that kind of thinking.  I guess Germany should beware also...
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« Reply #176 on: October 24, 2012, 07:59:19 pm »
I, personally, am not trying to be hateful to anyone, but felt the need to stand up to one's overly rude and intolerant comments to people who are allowed to share their opinion in here without feeling like they will be jumped on unmercifully every time they post in a religious thread, which also is allowed in here.

It's can also become necessary to object to any religious superstition directly responsible for the oppression, torture and deaths of hundreds of thousands of people who didn't follow that particular rude and impolite self-delusion.

Objection and opposition are fine.  Adding your personal hatred and accusations, along with your bias and prejudices, with not presenting correctly and honestly, is wrong.  So I, in turn, will oppose your rude remarks then.

The various xtian-instigated crusades, inquistions and witch hunts did occur and were presented as xtian-instigated because they were.  There's no "bias and prejudice" in pointing out that those xtian fundies maimed and killed hundreds of thousands of people who didn't believe in the xtian 'religion'.  You can oppose that, like any holocast-denier can however, the facts oppose such opposition.

So in that respect, you continue to hold the Germany responsible even today for the horror that those ones did back then? 

No, it's not that difficult a concept unless you're biased by blind religious faith.  I'd hold current "neo-nazis" who have the same national socialist beliefs as the members of the Third Reich did as responsible.  Not your avergae non-*bleep* German today.


 
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #177 on: October 24, 2012, 08:14:47 pm »
I, personally, am not trying to be hateful to anyone, but felt the need to stand up to one's overly rude and intolerant comments to people who are allowed to share their opinion in here without feeling like they will be jumped on unmercifully every time they post in a religious thread, which also is allowed in here.

It's can also become necessary to object to any religious superstition directly responsible for the oppression, torture and deaths of hundreds of thousands of people who didn't follow that particular rude and impolite self-delusion.

Objection and opposition are fine.  Adding your personal hatred and accusations, along with your bias and prejudices, with not presenting correctly and honestly, is wrong.  So I, in turn, will oppose your rude remarks then.

The various xtian-instigated crusades, inquistions and witch hunts did occur and were presented as xtian-instigated because they were.  There's no "bias and prejudice" in pointing out that those xtian fundies maimed and killed hundreds of thousands of people who didn't believe in the xtian 'religion'.  You can oppose that, like any holocast-denier can however, the facts oppose such opposition.

So in that respect, you continue to hold the Germany responsible even today for the horror that those ones did back then? 

No, it's not that difficult a concept unless you're biased by blind religious faith.  I'd hold current "neo-nazis" who have the same national socialist beliefs as the members of the Third Reich did as responsible.  Not your avergae non-*bleep* German today.


 
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.  Hold them responsible, and hold ones responsible, like Westboro Church, and others who are irrational in what they are doing - they are not following what God wants us to do as His followers.  But understand that most Christians are humans like everyone else, who love their families, friends, and relatives; work or not work; help others when needed or when asked; give from the heart; have compassion; and much more.  The only difference between them and dis-believers is that they follow Christ and try to live their lives as Christ-like as possible, possibly attend church; study their Bibles, etc., while dis-believers do what they feel they are doing to live a good life, as well.  People of other faiths, most of them, are trying to live right, as well.

Many Muslims get very upset when their Islam is compared to be the same as the radical extremists Islamists.  They do not believe in what the radicals do, do not approve of it, and do not wish to be known as the same as them, even though it is "Islam."  Do you hold all Muslims accountable for the acts of the radical Islamists, who stone, kill, hang, stab, and more, those who do not do as they think they should do?  They say "Allah" tells them to do it so they are using "Allah" to fulfill their personal prejudices and desires for violence. Is it fair to hold the other Islamists accountable for the actions of the "bad" guys, just because they serve "Allah?"  To them, "Allah" is not a god of hatred and killings.

Same with Christians - those were some bad people back then, using "God's" name to fulfill their wicked prejudices and personal bias against others.  They were wrong.  But it is wrong and unfair to hold us Christians accountable for their horrible actions.

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« Reply #178 on: October 24, 2012, 08:23:09 pm »
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.   Same with Christians ... 

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.
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« Reply #179 on: October 24, 2012, 08:29:30 pm »
Then you should understand that Christians are not the same as those killers as from the past.   Same with Christians ...  

The same religious beliefs were held by the xtians who commited the atrocities of the Inquisitions, Crusades and witch hunts as the followers of that same religion hold today.  The same applies to islam; the ones who commited atrocities in the name of their religion hold the same general superstitious religious beliefs as other followers of islam.  Separating the 'extremists' of any superstitious religious belief into different piles so that one pile can try disassociating itself from the other piles is a pointless religious fiction.  To any non-adherent, if the same religious belief is held by extremists of that religious belief as by non-extremists, it's still the same underlying religious belief that's being opposed.
I will not accept this comment of yours as rational, since you chose to nit pick this one comment only.  I used the Muslims as an example of this very thing you responded about, and you have chosen to ignore it.  Until you read and comment with your answer to my question regarding the Muslims' Islam, this answer is null and void and deliberately posted because you refuse to listen.  I will await your answer to my question; thank you.  In fact, here it is again for you, to make it easier for you:

Many Muslims get very upset when their Islam is compared to be the same as the radical extremists Islamists.  They do not believe in what the radicals do, do not approve of it, and do not wish to be known as the same as them, even though it is "Islam." Do you hold all Muslims accountable for the acts of the radical Islamists, who stone, kill, hang, stab, and more, those who do not do as they think they should do?  They say "Allah" tells them to do it so they are using "Allah" to fulfill their personal prejudices and desires for violence. Is it fair to hold the other Islamists accountable for the actions of the "bad" guys, just because they serve "Allah?"  To them, "Allah" is not a god of hatred and killings.

Same with Christians - those were some bad people back then, using "God's" name to fulfill their wicked prejudices and personal bias against others.  They were wrong.  But it is wrong and unfair to hold us Christians accountable for their horrible actions.
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