Cowards

[falcon9]

Your lack of common courtesy is well noted.  

You keep repeating your biased opinion as if it were factually-accurate. If that were accurate, why are there numerous archived posts complaining about "atheists", opposing viewpoints, being logically challenged and trying to pose dissent as "rude/disrespectful/impolite" etc. in evidence to the contrary of your empty assertion? <--rhetorical question

Instead, it's a continued attempt at suppressing opposing viewpoints under the guise of "courtesy". There are no mandated requirements to "respect" a publically-posted irrational opinion, (religious or otherwise).  The holders of blind religious faiths are able to do so within the privacy of their own deluded minds without interference.  However, as soon as thoswe self-delusions leave the confines of the minds of religious adherents and offensively attempt to infect other minds with the same irrationalities, opposition can and does occur.

As are your unreasonable views and disrespect toward others who choose to believe in God.

On the contrary, such opposing views have used reason/logic to support them, which makes your characterization false.
 

You are deeply rooted in your intolerance to believers and this is also well noted.

That's another one of your unsupported false characterizations, (otherwise known as your unsubstantiated biased opinion). In fact, I do 'tolerate' the expression of blind faith in religious superstitions to the extent that I haven't endeavored to suppress them, (opposition is not suppression), as you have repeatedly tried suppressing opposing viewpoints for months now, (archived evidence of this exists to support that contention).
 

However, I will say this - your attitude and comments only strengthen my commitment and loyalty to Jesus Christ. I will continue with my choice of serving my Lord.

In other words, you are tacitly declaring that you won't allow reason & logic to penetrate the darkness of your blind religious faith and you intend to cling to it irrationally and illogically.

It's a good thing the moderator isn't you - you apparently are one, if given the opportunity, who would do everything you could (like the Atheist Group currently, in America) to block Christians from even being able to post Bible verse threads, and in the public, would oppose a person trying to live a Christian life; and to help rid America of Christianity.  

Moderators moderate within the strictures of specific posting policies and TOS; they don't " ... oppose a person trying to live a Christian life; and to help rid America of Christianity", (as you melodramatically propose).  As far as the mind-blindness of xtianity, you're mistaken; I'd support banning all public expression of specious religious superstitions.  Privately, the fundies can knock themselves out in that regard.

What a shame there are such hard-hearted individuals who cannot tolerate the idea that others have the right to believe in whom or what they choose; or to not believe in anyone or thing ...
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Since you're obviously not paying attention to replies to your specious rantings, it becomes necessary to reiterate; privately, believe what you want - publically, if you can proselytize it, others can oppose it.  If you don't like that it's a two way street, strive for an oppressive theocracy; I'll oppose that even more strenuously.

[kcoleman2]

To many times we have traveled down this road. So many more times will we continue to travel this road. I am a believe in the Lord Savioe Jesus Christ. I always have and i always will. It doesn't matter what anyone tries to throw out there. If you are not a believer than thats your choice as well. We need to be respectful of each other regardless of our beliefs or non-beliefs. Some of us have been harsh, rude and ridiculous with our comments. We may not want to admit it but we have. If someone post about their beliefs and you don't agree, just don't comment. Same if someone post who don't believe, don't comment. Sometimes the best thing you can do for yourself and others is to keep your comments to yourself.

[jcribb16]

Your lack of common courtesy is well noted.  

You keep repeating your biased opinion as if it were factually-accurate. If that were accurate, why are there numerous archived posts complaining about "atheists", opposing viewpoints, being logically challenged and trying to pose dissent as "rude/disrespectful/impolite" etc. in evidence to the contrary of your empty assertion? <--rhetorical question

Instead, it's a continued attempt at suppressing opposing viewpoints under the guise of "courtesy". There are no mandated requirements to "respect" a publically-posted irrational opinion, (religious or otherwise).  The holders of blind religious faiths are able to do so within the privacy of their own deluded minds without interference.  However, as soon as thoswe self-delusions leave the confines of the minds of religious adherents and offensively attempt to infect other minds with the same irrationalities, opposition can and does occur.

As are your unreasonable views and disrespect toward others who choose to believe in God.

On the contrary, such opposing views have used reason/logic to support them, which makes your characterization false.
 

You are deeply rooted in your intolerance to believers and this is also well noted.

That's another one of your unsupported false characterizations, (otherwise known as your unsubstantiated biased opinion). In fact, I do 'tolerate' the expression of blind faith in religious superstitions to the extent that I haven't endeavored to suppress them, (opposition is not suppression), as you have repeatedly tried suppressing opposing viewpoints for months now, (archived evidence of this exists to support that contention).
 

However, I will say this - your attitude and comments only strengthen my commitment and loyalty to Jesus Christ. I will continue with my choice of serving my Lord.

In other words, you are tacitly declaring that you won't allow reason & logic to penetrate the darkness of your blind religious faith and you intend to cling to it irrationally and illogically.

It's a good thing the moderator isn't you - you apparently are one, if given the opportunity, who would do everything you could (like the Atheist Group currently, in America) to block Christians from even being able to post Bible verse threads, and in the public, would oppose a person trying to live a Christian life; and to help rid America of Christianity.  

Moderators moderate within the strictures of specific posting policies and TOS; they don't " ... oppose a person trying to live a Christian life; and to help rid America of Christianity", (as you melodramatically propose).  As far as the mind-blindness of xtianity, you're mistaken; I'd support banning all public expression of specious religious superstitions.  Privately, the fundies can knock themselves out in that regard.

What a shame there are such hard-hearted individuals who cannot tolerate the idea that others have the right to believe in whom or what they choose; or to not believe in anyone or thing ...
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Since you're obviously not paying attention to replies to your specious rantings, it becomes necessary to reiterate; privately, believe what you want - publically, if you can proselytize it, others can oppose it.  If you don't like that it's a two way street, strive for an oppressive theocracy; I'll oppose that even more strenuously.

Clarification, since you enjoy twisting my words out of context:  The moderator/s in here do not "oppose... " - I said I'm glad YOU are not a moderator, because I personally feel YOU would do what YOU could to OPPOSE anything Christian being allowed on the forum board.  I also am saying that you, with your bashing of believers, are acting within the same mindset of the Atheist Group in America, whose goal is to remove Christianity from everything.   Please stop twisting my words out of the context which I present, just to make it look like I am saying something I'm not.

[falcon9]

If someone post about their beliefs and you don't agree, just don't comment. Same if someone post who don't believe, don't comment. Sometimes the best thing you can do for yourself and others is to keep your comments to yourself.

The problem with that is that it's one-sided.  You fundies appear to believe in several falsehoods; in this instance, that you're permitted to post about 'private' religious beliefs, (thus making them public), but believe that others shouldn't comment in opposition.  That's irrational, suppressive and disregarded as such.

[falcon9]

Please stop twisting my words out of the context which I present, just to make it look like I am saying something I'm not.

That's unnecessary since your twisted words are archived, unaltered.

[jcribb16]

To many times we have traveled down this road. So many more times will we continue to travel this road. I am a believe in the Lord Savioe Jesus Christ. I always have and i always will. It doesn't matter what anyone tries to throw out there. If you are not a believer than thats your choice as well. We need to be respectful of each other regardless of our beliefs or non-beliefs. Some of us have been harsh, rude and ridiculous with our comments. We may not want to admit it but we have. If someone post about their beliefs and you don't agree, just don't comment. Same if someone post who don't believe, don't comment. Sometimes the best thing you can do for yourself and others is to keep your comments to yourself.

I agree that this same road is being traveled too many times, and will keep being traveled.  Just to clarify from my point of view of my remarks, I have no issue with anyone who chooses their own direction to believe or dis-believe.  Like you said, it's everyone's choice as to how they choose to live their life.

 I only have an issue when posters come in deliberately to mock, make fun of, and bash believers, for even just posting verses or quotes of inspiration.  Sure, they can be ignored, but at the same time, believers help each other, encourage each other, through those kinds of hateful remarks, including standing up for our right to believe in and support Christ.  Thanks for speaking from your heart, too.

[falcon9]

Just to clarify from my point of view of my remarks, I have no issue with anyone who chooses their own direction to believe or dis-believe.  

That's not an accurate statement since your "issue" is with those who choose not to 'believe' and oppose such superstitious beliefs rationally/logically.  When your inherent religious bias causes you to characterize opposing viewpoints as "mocking", "bashing", etc., as if those opinions weren't inherently biased assumptions is disingenuous.

I only have an issue when posters come in deliberately to mock, make fun of, and bash believers, for even just posting verses or quotes of inspiration. 

Those adjectives reflect religious bias and are not accurate since they are subjective opinions and not based on objective fact.  On the other hand, others have produced evidence that followers of xtianity are directly responsible for the inquisitions, crusades, (three), witch hunts and generally persecuting non-believers with torture and deaths.  Opposing the offensive proselytizing of the exact same belief system isn't considering "rude" or "mocking" by those dissenting against such reprehensible practices steeming from the same religious blind faith.

Sure, they can be ignored, but at the same time, believers help each other, encourage each other, through those kinds of hateful remarks, including standing up for our right to believe in and support Christ.  

There's no inherent "right" to "support christ"; the applicable Constitutional guarantee concerns "freedom of religion", not the "freedom" to proselytize UNOPPOSED, (because others have the Constitutional option to oppose it).

[kcoleman2]

Everyone should be able to give their opinion. Its just the way that some of us are giving them. Actually its not some of us its one person. Falcon has a serious issue with religion. Theredore i feel you Falcon, should avoid the post that deal with religions and beliefs tht you don't agree with. Why, because it makes you to look as a , inconsiderate, rude, obnoxious person. I don't think thats who you are. You just have strong beliefs and thats fine. Maybe find a better way to express them instead of how you have been doing. Be mindful of peoples feeling. Show some respect.

[jcribb16]

Please stop twisting my words out of the context which I present, just to make it look like I am saying something I'm not.

That's unnecessary since your twisted words are archived, unaltered.

That's a great point - your twisting of my words are also archived, unaltered.  And copied to my own personal files as well, in the event you would go back and either delete or alter your twisting of my words, to make it look as if I was wrong.

[jcribb16]

If someone post about their beliefs and you don't agree, just don't comment. Same if someone post who don't believe, don't comment. Sometimes the best thing you can do for yourself and others is to keep your comments to yourself.

The problem with that is that it's one-sided.  You fundies appear to believe in several falsehoods; in this instance, that you're permitted to post about 'private' religious beliefs, (thus making them public), but believe that others shouldn't comment in opposition.  That's irrational, suppressive and disregarded as such.

No, it's not one-sided.  It's definitely two-sided.  Believers share inspiration, while you oppose vehemently through mocking and bashing.  Your side counts within the issue here.

[jcribb16]

Just to clarify from my point of view of my remarks, I have no issue with anyone who chooses their own direction to believe or dis-believe.  

That's not an accurate statement since your "issue" is with those who choose not to 'believe' and oppose such superstitious beliefs rationally/logically.  When your inherent religious bias causes you to characterize opposing viewpoints as "mocking", "bashing", etc., as if those opinions weren't inherently biased assumptions is disingenuous.

I only have an issue when posters come in deliberately to mock, make fun of, and bash believers, for even just posting verses or quotes of inspiration. 

Those adjectives reflect religious bias and are not accurate since they are subjective opinions and not based on objective fact.  On the other hand, others have produced evidence that followers of xtianity are directly responsible for the inquisitions, crusades, (three), witch hunts and generally persecuting non-believers with torture and deaths.  Opposing the offensive proselytizing of the exact same belief system isn't considering "rude" or "mocking" by those dissenting against such reprehensible practices steeming from the same religious blind faith.

Sure, they can be ignored, but at the same time, believers help each other, encourage each other, through those kinds of hateful remarks, including standing up for our right to believe in and support Christ.  

There's no inherent "right" to "support christ"; the applicable Constitutional guarantee concerns "freedom of religion", not the "freedom" to proselytize UNOPPOSED, (because others have the Constitutional option to oppose it).

Once again, you are misrepresenting the truth.  No one is forcing anyone to receive or deny Christ. Both believers and dis-believers are protected by the Constitution.  Freedom of religion and no religion.  You seem to have a problem letting Christians enjoy their freedom of religion in these forums, while no one is coming down on you for your personal choice of dis-believing.  Intolerance and disrespect are obvious. It also seems that you are just itching to have someone be intolerant and disrespectful to your personal choice of dis-believing.  That's not going to happen from me, and from many - because it's your personal choice to believe or dis-believe what you want.  It's a shame you can't offer the same common courtesy.

My issue is NOT with those who dis-believe.  My issue IS WITH your mocking, intolerant, bashing attitude of disrespect you only aim toward believers.  That is a major difference.  While you are free to oppose religion, God, and what believers choose to believe, you continue to go overboard with the obvious loathing and basically, "trolling" constantly, trying to continually disrupt any believer's threads.  You don't seem to have any other problems toward other religions, just Christianity - that is intolerance and bias.

No matter how many times you keep trying to infer that Christians, as a whole, are connected to the Crusades, witch burnings, etc., you are showing your misunderstanding and intolerance again and again to those believers who live for God and do not side with, nor support, any of those previous things that happened.  I will keep reminding you that you cannot box ALL people who call themselves Christians, in ONE BOX, just because they have the name Christian attached.  True and genuine believers in Christ do NOT take part in nor support those horrible issues.  You are using them, as part of your loathing, to get at Christians and make ones in here look bad - you are only making yourself look intolerant and foolish. 

[dmahoney]

well said jcribb16 

[jcribb16]

Everyone should be able to give their opinion. Its just the way that some of us are giving them. Actually its not some of us its one person. Falcon has a serious issue with religion. Theredore i feel you Falcon, should avoid the post that deal with religions and beliefs tht you don't agree with. Why, because it makes you to look as a , inconsiderate, rude, obnoxious person. I don't think thats who you are. You just have strong beliefs and thats fine. Maybe find a better way to express them instead of how you have been doing. Be mindful of peoples feeling. Show some respect.

I have tried saying the same.  Everyone of us are free to choose what we believe or don't believe.  I have not encountered others coming down on him disrespectfully, for what he chooses (to dis-believe.)  Yet, there is constant disrespect, under the guise of "dissenting and challenging opinions" towards believers, through the use of name-calling, pics that are mocking Christ, quotes and remarks that are worded in such a way as to provoke negative responses from believers.  Those are beyond opposing challenges - they are thoughtless and disrespectful, and are trying to make believers appear to be insane and irrational because of what they believe.

That's the only issue I have about this whole thing.  I respect his choice, yet he refuses to offer the same common courtesy, and keeps it going.  It's not right, nor fair, to other people who are trying to encourage and inspire each other in threads that are allowed in this forum, especially when in the Off Topics section.  

[jcribb16]

well said jcribb16 

Thank you.

[heroftimes]

I've had no problem with what falcon is saying, He's simply trying to make you xtians see how illogical and indefensible your, or any religion, is.  You have no facts that support what you believe in.