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graveyardmaiden

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does god send you...
« on: August 03, 2012, 09:12:49 am »
dreams ? i had a dream or moreless i heard Jesus say to me : do not mourn when your baby is born ,but rejoice in motherhood" what do u think it means and yes im prego!   :angel11:

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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 02:24:32 pm »
Of course, I can tell you precisely what it means, it's a very simple message.  It just means that carrying a child for nine months, and then going through labor is a difficult process for any woman, but the joy of a new life you bring into the world and the love for your child will make up for that.

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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 11:07:47 am »
Yes, Jesus talk to us in our dreams. Also, the virgin Mary shows her image in potato chips.

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 02:19:12 pm »
It means that post partum blues can be common and aren't particular to any religious beliefs.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2012, 03:15:25 pm »
I believe God send us signs, He's always with us.

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2012, 03:26:21 pm »
I believe God send us signs, He's always with us.

Such a belief has no evidentiary basis and perpetuates/proselytizes blind religious faith.

"So far as religion of the day is concerned, it is a damned fake. Religion is all bunk."
-- Thomas Alva Edison
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 05:28:53 pm »
God does send people dreams. He has given us biblical examples of this as follows:

The Pharoah has a dream sent by God and interpreted by Joseph Genesis 41:1-40

And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, The dream of Pharaoh is one: God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to do.
Gen 41:25 (KJV)

Joseph who was bethothed to the Virgin Mary has a dream  Matthew 1:18-20

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.

20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
Matt 1:18-21 (KJV)

God warns Mary's husband Joseph to flee to Egypt to save Jesus life from Herod's massacre and the Wise Men not to return to Herod Matthew 2:1-14

12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
 
13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.
Matt 2:12-13 (KJV)

Pontius Pilate's wife is troubled in a dream about Jesus and warns him to have nothing to do with him Matthew 27:11-19

 When he was set down on the judgment seat, his wife sent unto him, saying, Have thou nothing to do with that just man: for I have suffered many things this day in a dream because of him.
Matt 27:19 (KJV)

If you are unsure about a dream it would be best to go your pastor or a Christian spiritual leader you can trust, let them know about your dream and allow them to give you sound biblical guidance in addition to your prayer. You definitely must be careful of anything spiritual you deal with though whether it be dreams, visions, tongues or the like. These can be counterfeited as well by devils so it's important to get sound guidance and know that you are hearing from the Lord.

Let me know if this helps.  :)
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 05:37:53 pm »
God does send people dreams.
He has given us biblical examples of this as follows ...

"Biblical examples" constitute religious hearsay and not substantive evidence.  There is, therefore, no substantive evidence presented to support the faith-based, (lacking evidentiary support), contention that "g-d does send people dreams", (which is merely a religious belief presented as if it were factual when it is not).
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 08:08:49 pm »
God does send people dreams.
He has given us biblical examples of this as follows ...

"Biblical examples" constitute religious hearsay and not substantive evidence.  There is, therefore, no substantive evidence presented to support the faith-based, (lacking evidentiary support), contention that "g-d does send people dreams", (which is merely a religious belief presented as if it were factual when it is not).
That is your opinion.  You cannot prove that those events did not happen.  And just because you think there is "no substantive evidence presented" does not mean that it is not the correct evidence, and does not mean that it's not true, just because YOU, an unbeliever, says so.
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Re: does god send you...
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2012, 08:26:15 pm »
God does send people dreams.
He has given us biblical examples of this as follows ...

"Biblical examples" constitute religious hearsay and not substantive evidence.  There is, therefore, no substantive evidence presented to support the faith-based, (lacking evidentiary support), contention that "g-d does send people dreams", (which is merely a religious belief presented as if it were factual when it is not).

That is your opinion.

It isn't a matter of subjective opinion; the basis of the contention is rationality/logic.  Logic isn't my personal opinion, I didn't invent the process.

You cannot prove that those events did not happen.

That's not how burden of proof works.  It is incumbent upon the claimant to substantiate their claims, not upon the challenger to prove/dispove a negative assertion.  This has been reiterated many times and yet, several xtian believers remain unable to comprehend that they continue to insist upon a logical fallacy to bolster the logical fallacy of their religious beliefs.  That's the epitome of blind faith.
 
And just because you think there is "no substantive evidence presented" does not meant that it is not the correct evidence, and does not mean that it's not true, just because YOU, an unbeliever, says so.

The validity of evidence is not a matter of whimsical 'opinion'; the basis is either logical/rational or, it isn't substantive evidence.  An irrational/illogical/insubstantive basis would be faith-without-evidence, a baseless subjective perception/opinion or, a depositional 'testimony' which has no evidentiary support.  None of the preceding religious claims have any valid evidentiary basis, (not because I *say* they don't but, because neither "faith"/"belief"/unsupported depositions constitute valid/substantive evidence.

The provisional conclusion deduced thusfar is that religious adherents are reluctant to concede that their religious beliefs/faith has no substantive basis in evidence and is, essentially, an empty religious opinion.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2012, 08:36:53 pm »
God does send people dreams.
He has given us biblical examples of this as follows ...

"Biblical examples" constitute religious hearsay and not substantive evidence.  There is, therefore, no substantive evidence presented to support the faith-based, (lacking evidentiary support), contention that "g-d does send people dreams", (which is merely a religious belief presented as if it were factual when it is not).

That is your opinion.

It isn't a matter of subjective opinion; the basis of the contention is rationality/logic.  Logic isn't my personal opinion, I didn't invent the process.

You cannot prove that those events did not happen.

That's not how burden of proof works.  It is incumbent upon the claimant to substantiate their claims, not upon the challenger to prove/dispove a negative assertion.  This has been reiterated many times and yet, several xtian believers remain unable to comprehend that they continue to insist upon a logical fallacy to bolster the logical fallacy of their religious beliefs.  That's the epitome of blind faith.
 
And just because you think there is "no substantive evidence presented" does not meant that it is not the correct evidence, and does not mean that it's not true, just because YOU, an unbeliever, says so.

The validity of evidence is not a matter of whimsical 'opinion'; the basis is either logical/rational or, it isn't substantive evidence.  An irrational/illogical/insubstantive basis would be faith-without-evidence, a baseless subjective perception/opinion or, a depositional 'testimony' which has no evidentiary support.  None of the preceding religious claims have any valid evidentiary basis, (not because I *say* they don't but, because neither "faith"/"belief"/unsupported depositions constitute valid/substantive evidence.

The provisional conclusion deduced thusfar is that religious adherents are reluctant to concede that their religious beliefs/faith has no substantive basis in evidence and is, essentially, an empty religious opinion.
Your trying to make my answer look empty, with no substantive basis in evidence, is NOT proving anything in your favor.  I stand by what I believe, with the Bible, the history, and the things that friends have seen when over there, that line up with what the Bible says, and classes of Biblical history and Middle East history of those countries,  and you will not sway me with your constant negativity, big words, and bashing.

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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2012, 08:39:35 pm »
I believe God send us signs, He's always with us.

Such a belief has no evidentiary basis and perpetuates/proselytizes blind religious faith.

"So far as religion of the day is concerned, it is a damned fake. Religion is all bunk."
-- Thomas Alva Edison

Get 'em falcon9!

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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2012, 09:02:27 pm »
Your trying to make my answer look empty, with no substantive basis in evidence, is NOT proving anything in your favor. 

On the contrary, your answer, (in your own words), is sufficient to demonstrate that it has no substantive basis in evidence and constitutes 'proof' of my contention.  Thanks.

I stand by what I believe, with the Bible, the history, and the things that friends have seen ... and you will not sway me with your constant negativity, big words, and bashing.

That's nice; stick to your blind faith if wished, (or unable to break free of it).  It still does not constitute validly substantive evidence supporting your specious claims.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2012, 02:15:58 pm »
Your trying to make my answer look empty, with no substantive basis in evidence, is NOT proving anything in your favor. 

On the contrary, your answer, (in your own words), is sufficient to demonstrate that it has no substantive basis in evidence and constitutes 'proof' of my contention.  Thanks.

I stand by what I believe, with the Bible, the history, and the things that friends have seen ... and you will not sway me with your constant negativity, big words, and bashing.

That's nice; stick to your blind faith if wished, (or unable to break free of it).  It still does not constitute validly substantive evidence supporting your specious claims.
This is just an example of your consistent intolerance of someone else's views and personal opinions.  God does not need to provide proof to anyone, yet it is all around you, if you choose to acknowledge that.  The thing my heart is concerned about, is that one day, for those who do not choose to accept Him, reality and fact will indeed happen, with "wailing and gnashing of teeth," and I don't want anyone to have to go through that.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2012, 02:21:46 pm »
I have a friend who has three daughters, then had a stillborn baby boy.  Of course, she was totally devastated by the loss, but the voice of the Lord told her that she would have the joy of her heart.  She took it to mean that she should engross herself in her daughters and realize the blessing.  But, nope, we now have our little Nicholas to enjoy as well, and with the four she is so content and knows that her little cherub came from Heaven. 

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