advice please :D

[jcribb16]

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT...WHAT??  Going to Hell for having a baby out of wedlock? Are you serious...ok, you can call that sin,  but nooooooo....the only unforgivable sin is the sin of blasphemy.  I can't believe you tried to lay that on this young girl who is struggling enough with other REAL issues.  You can't say sin is the reason for damnation,  remaining in sin may be, but it sounds like she is putting the sinful life behind her and making the correct decisions...FOR ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD...

You are absolutely right.  That is unfair, like you said, to lay that kind of guilt trip on her. 

[duroz]

Oh My Goodness, too scary for me to even think about. Good Luck with the baby, but please don't become a religious fanatic. It could do more harm to you and your baby than you might think.

That's pragmatic advise, sadly not often taken.
 

ditto on the

Religion should NOT be taught to children. It should be something THEY seek out when they are old enough to comprehend the reasons for, or against, whatever belief they choose to investigate.

Children may not adhere to the same beliefs as their parents but they'll definitely have to deal with any indoctrination they receive as young, gullible kids.
And most who are indoctrinated with religious ideals as a child are also taught that questioning their religion is wrong.

They won't realize that it is, and has been, a problem not relying on themselves to make decisions, instead of some invisible being in the sky.

"After the sermon was ended ... I revolted at the recollection of what I had heard.... I moreover believe that any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
-- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

[skrogman]

RELIGION SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT TO CHILDREN??   WOW...Now I understand more and more why this generation is what it is, but that's okay too, because it was all foretold long ago.  Praise God that the nursery in my Church is full. 

[falcon9]

RELIGION SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT TO CHILDREN??   WOW...Now I understand more and more why this generation is what it is, but that's okay too, because it was all foretold long ago.  Praise God that the nursery in my Church is full. 

Forcing religious propaganda onto gulliable young children should be legislated as child abuse.  Such proselytization is harmful to the mental development of impressionable children and blind faith inhibits the ability to reason, (as demonstrated by religious adherents so often).

[elandry]

Oh My Goodness, too scary for me to even think about. Good Luck with the baby, but please don't become a religious fanatic. It could do more harm to you and your baby than you might think.

That's pragmatic advise, sadly not often taken.
 

ditto on the

Religion should NOT be taught to children. It should be something THEY seek out when they are old enough to comprehend the reasons for, or against, whatever belief they choose to investigate.

Children may not adhere to the same beliefs as their parents but they'll definitely have to deal with any indoctrination they receive as young, gullible kids.
And most who are indoctrinated with religious ideals as a child are also taught that questioning their religion is wrong.

They won't realize that it is, and has been, a problem not relying on themselves to make decisions, instead of some invisible being in the sky.

"After the sermon was ended ... I revolted at the recollection of what I had heard.... I moreover believe that any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system."
-- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

An excellent quote from Thomas Paine  

It is my belief that Thomas was right on this one. My children were not raised going to church, but I answered their questions concerning God as the questions arose. Both of my sons are very moral, socially responsible and caring. They are also non-judgmental (a quality some people seem to lack). They are free thinkers. What I find interesting is the way their father-- an atheist-- constantly proselytizes for his point of view, and condemns xtians for doing the same  . Fortunately, my kids are immune to both sides. For the record, both of them have read the Scriptures of every major religion, and a lot of the minor ones-- I have them all in the house. The truth, if you will, is to be found in the common ideas that religions share-- a single religion is only a commonly held point of view.

[jcribb16]

RELIGION SHOULD NOT BE TAUGHT TO CHILDREN??   WOW...Now I understand more and more why this generation is what it is, but that's okay too, because it was all foretold long ago.  Praise God that the nursery in my Church is full. 

Forcing religious propaganda onto gulliable young children should be legislated as child abuse.  Such proselytization is harmful to the mental development of impressionable children and blind faith inhibits the ability to reason, (as demonstrated by religious adherents so often).

Wow.  That's a very strong held opinion.  I could say the same about atheists because of the strong intolerance and hate, shown by your very words, but since you are not the legislation maker of laws, etc., you are entitled to your thoughts about this.  I'm glad my children had the opportunity to choose and make their own minds up about accepting God or not, without the pressure of either side showing intolerance of whatever they have chosen. 

[Falconer02]

Forcing religious propaganda onto gulliable young children should be legislated as child abuse.  Such proselytization is harmful to the mental development of impressionable children and blind faith inhibits the ability to reason, (as demonstrated by religious adherents so often).

Wow.  That's a very strong held opinion.  I could say the same about atheists because of the strong intolerance and hate, shown by your very words, but since you are not the legislation maker of laws, etc., you are entitled to your thoughts about this.  I'm glad my children had the opportunity to choose and make their own minds up about accepting God or not, without the pressure of either side showing intolerance of whatever they have chosen.  

I would have to disagree with you-- for instance I've never seen an atheist prefer faith healing over going to the doctor, I've never seen atheists go aside a road holding anti-gay signs, and I've never heard of one teaching children false facts such as the world being 6-10,000 years old and teaching other learning impairments. Skeptic movements are pushing for legislation to make some of these extremes illegal (it is NOT prejudicial to avoid something if it's causing major harm/health hazards to individuals). I am happy to hear you say that you allowed your children to make up their own minds though.

[falcon9]

Forcing religious propaganda onto gulliable young children should be legislated as child abuse.  Such proselytization is harmful to the mental development of impressionable children and blind faith inhibits the ability to reason, (as demonstrated by religious adherents so often).

Wow.  That's a very strong held opinion.  I could say the same about atheists because of the strong intolerance and hate, shown by your very words, but since you are not the legislation maker of laws, etc., you are entitled to your thoughts about this.  I'm glad my children had the opportunity to choose and make their own minds up about accepting God or not, without the pressure of either side showing intolerance of whatever they have chosen.  

I would have to disagree with you-- for instance I've never seen an atheist prefer faith healing over going to the doctor, I've never seen atheists go aside a road holding anti-gay signs, and I've never heard of one teaching children false facts such as the world being 6-10,000 years old and teaching other learning impairments. Skeptic movements are pushing for legislation to make some of these extremes illegal (it is NOT prejudicial to avoid something if it's causing major harm/health hazards to individuals). I am happy to hear you say that you allowed your children to make up their own minds though.

I concur to an extent however, children being religiously-indoctrinated at an early age by religious adherent parents are not actually being given a viable "choice".  There's a significant difference between "religious teachings", (proselytizing), and teaching critical thinking skills.

[egypt31]

After long thought due to reading some of the  posts placed under your topic Re: advice please  maybe next time your topic should be Re: Decent advice only please!!!!!

It seems like you are trying to do what is right so, search Gods word the bible to find your answers, it is his letter to you to help you in all times of need, Just remember God loves you and if that's not working well enough for you maybe get some counseling from a minister or priest you feel is trustworthy! Good luck and may blessings from God find you!!!!
Oh yeah and definitely congrats on the youngster, Gods gifts are so amazing!!!!!!!

[falcon9]

After long thought due to reading some of the  posts placed under your topic Re: advice please  maybe next time your topic should be Re: Decent advice only please!!!!!

"Decent advice" being more sanctimonious, sef-righteous religious crap?  No, decent advise is pragmatic and useful, not useless superstitious wishful-thinking.

It seems like you are trying to do what is right so, search Gods word the bible to find your answers

There are no valid "answers" in such blind faith sources.  Such "advice" is indecent.

[jcribb16]

Forcing religious propaganda onto gulliable young children should be legislated as child abuse.  Such proselytization is harmful to the mental development of impressionable children and blind faith inhibits the ability to reason, (as demonstrated by religious adherents so often).

Wow.  That's a very strong held opinion.  I could say the same about atheists because of the strong intolerance and hate, shown by your very words, but since you are not the legislation maker of laws, etc., you are entitled to your thoughts about this.  I'm glad my children had the opportunity to choose and make their own minds up about accepting God or not, without the pressure of either side showing intolerance of whatever they have chosen.  

I would have to disagree with you-- for instance I've never seen an atheist prefer faith healing over going to the doctor, I've never seen atheists go aside a road holding anti-gay signs, and I've never heard of one teaching children false facts such as the world being 6-10,000 years old and teaching other learning impairments. Skeptic movements are pushing for legislation to make some of these extremes illegal (it is NOT prejudicial to avoid something if it's causing major harm/health hazards to individuals). I am happy to hear you say that you allowed your children to make up their own minds though.

Please remember you cannot box ALL "Christians" in the same box.  Not all believe the very same way about things.  It seems when there are "bad" things that happen, as a result of someone's "beliefs" that ALL Christians are blamed as a whole, and that is very unfair.
Yes, thank you, my children were absolutely allowed to ask questions, and ultimately made up their own minds what they wanted to do.

[feminaxdee]

heres my theory. im a christian girl and i have two children. im single and their fathers choseto not be involved. i dont believe that god would penalise you both for concieving a child just because yiu are without faith. god gave everyone a choice. its good that youre looking to get involved in the faitof god, but for you to be apart just because you feel that your faith will bring consequence is rediculous. yes its frowned upon. but that didnt stop the conceptipn of the child did it? i feel as if god would look down and frown upon a broken family more than he would if you were to stay apart and the father not be apart or take care of this child.

[ashleyxatrocity]

im starting a new church ive been doing my bible study s and goign to church my ex boyfriend goes there and we are having a baby together i cant have any contact with him at all  he cant be there for the birth of the bbay cause i have to protect his purity .

I'm just curious, haven't you already violated his purity by having premarital sex and becoming pregnant? I mean, you can have no contact with him and keep it from the congregation, which is the same as lying to everyone but would your God really want you to have a child with this boy and have him leave you to raise that child on your own? There's several parts of this that need to be elaborated. It just doesn't make sense.

[Falconer02]

Please remember you cannot box ALL "Christians" in the same box.  Not all believe the very same way about things.  It seems when there are "bad" things that happen, as a result of someone's "beliefs" that ALL Christians are blamed as a whole, and that is very unfair.

I agree with the first sentence mostly, but at the same time when many of the people of this religion constantly make headlines with their goofiness, I do not understand why people would still be attracted to something like that considering the majority of these people that get media coverage are quoting the bible.

[falcon9]

Please remember you cannot box ALL "Christians" in the same box.  Not all believe the very same way about things.  It seems when there are "bad" things that happen, as a result of someone's "beliefs" that ALL Christians are blamed as a whole, and that is very unfair.

I agree with the first sentence mostly, but at the same time when many of the people of this religion constantly make headlines with their goofiness, I do not understand why people would still be attracted to something like that considering the majority of these people that get media coverage are quoting the bible.

With the caveat that all people are not precisely alike, (even within a religious belief system), there remains the underlying constant that the same general xtian religious belief system was shared by the crusaders, the inquisitors and the variations of xtian sects today.