What Is Your Evidence?

[diala84]

I'm not religious but I say that our thoughts are our own and as long as they don't hurt others why not believe what you want. If I believe I am as hot as a supermodel, or god exists or people who bullied me in the past are now getting some kind of justice through karma.. and it makes me feel better each day to think that. What is the problem. Even if I am wrong it might make me feel better to believe in something that isn't true. Kinda the same effect as a placebo sugar pill. If your placebo worked because you believe it worked would you keep taking it. of course. I say let people deal with life in the way they want to that makes them feel better.   

[jcribb16]

Wrong.....  You say, perfect, you're helpng prove my point exactly, but I don't need to prove it to you because your posts show that you're already subjected to your own fantasies and delusions.  Anyway, "wrong" a very eloquent and clearly explained retort to my post.

The "wrong" was a response to falcon9's post.  Sorry if you thought it was at you.

[falcon9]

I'm not religious but I say that our thoughts are our own and as long as they don't hurt others why not believe what you want. If I believe I am as hot as a supermodel, or god exists or people who bullied me in the past are now getting some kind of justice through karma.. and it makes me feel better each day to think that. What is the problem.

As long as such self-delusional beliefs remain within your own skull, who would even know about them?  The problems begin to arise when those self-delusions do leave the deluded one's skull and start 'infecting' others with such mind-blinding 'virii'.  At that point, we start getting fundies killing others over religious beliefs, (the Crusades, the Inquistions, the witch-hunting pograms, etc.).
 

Even if I am wrong it might make me feel better to believe in something that isn't true. Kinda the same effect as a placebo sugar pill. If your placebo worked because you believe it worked would you keep taking it. of course. I say let people deal with life in the way they want to that makes them feel better.   

Sure, as long as such nonsense stays in their own heads and doesn't infect others, (or, that such self-delusions don't cause the deluded one to
act upon their self-delusions to teh detriment of others), knock yourself out.


"Just because you believe in something does not mean that it is true."
-- Albert Einstein

[falcon9]

Wrong.....  You say, perfect, you're helpng prove my point exactly, but I don't need to prove it to you because your posts show that you're already subjected to your own fantasies and delusions.  Anyway, "wrong" a very eloquent and clearly explained retort to my post.

The "wrong" was a response to falcon9's post.  Sorry if you thought it was at you.

It remains an empty opinion since its unsupported by evidence, (and therefore, a non sequitur).

[jcribb16]

Wait a moment, my response wasn't to you, falcon, it was a response to that jcribb character.  Check out the posts once again, I'm the guy on your side and now we're both going to hear another shotgun retort from that tunnel-head again.

Excuse me, alaric, in the first place, I wasn't responding to you - it was to falcon9.  In the 2nd place, I have not even called you names, much less had much to say to you.  You called me "that jcribb character," and "that tunnel-head."  Where do you get off calling people names on here like that?

[jcribb16]

Wrong.....  You say, perfect, you're helpng prove my point exactly, but I don't need to prove it to you because your posts show that you're already subjected to your own fantasies and delusions.  Anyway, "wrong" a very eloquent and clearly explained retort to my post.

The "wrong" was a response to falcon9's post.  Sorry if you thought it was at you.

It remains an empty opinion since its unsupported by evidence, (and therefore, a non sequitur).

I don't care that it is an empty opinion to you - I am used to your "non sequitur" comments.  I was clarifying something to alaric.

[falcon9]

Wrong.....  You say, perfect, you're helpng prove my point exactly, but I don't need to prove it to you because your posts show that you're already subjected to your own fantasies and delusions.  Anyway, "wrong" a very eloquent and clearly explained retort to my post.

The "wrong" was a response to falcon9's post.  Sorry if you thought it was at you.

It remains an empty opinion since its unsupported by evidence, (and therefore, a non sequitur).

I don't care that it is an empty opinion to you - I am used to your "non sequitur" comments.  I was clarifying something to alaric.

Your declaration is dubious since you 'cared' enough to reply, mentioning that you "don't care".  Since 'alaric' doesn't quote who he's replying to, you assumed something and went off that assumption.  Dubious assumptions epitomize the entire xtian belief system so, this was not a surprise.

[jcribb16]

Wrong.....  You say, perfect, you're helpng prove my point exactly, but I don't need to prove it to you because your posts show that you're already subjected to your own fantasies and delusions.  Anyway, "wrong" a very eloquent and clearly explained retort to my post.

The "wrong" was a response to falcon9's post.  Sorry if you thought it was at you.

It remains an empty opinion since its unsupported by evidence, (and therefore, a non sequitur).

I don't care that it is an empty opinion to you - I am used to your "non sequitur" comments.  I was clarifying something to alaric.

Your declaration is dubious since you 'cared' enough to reply, mentioning that you "don't care".  Since 'alaric' doesn't quote who he's replying to, you assumed something and went off that assumption.  Dubious assumptions epitomize the entire xtian belief system so, this was not a surprise.

*Sigh*  Falcon9, please stop arguing over this.  He thought I was saying "wrong' to him, and responded to me - I responded back that it wasn't towards him.  He called me names and I responded to that.  The "wrong" was directed toward your comments, in which, we continually go in the same circle with each other about, with our opposite views.  You responded to me for "both of you" carrying on about the "wrong."  Get over it.  It's done - I am not wanting to argue this with you - right now, I just wanted alaric to know the "wrong" was not at him, and why he's calling names. 

[falcon9]

*Sigh*  Falcon9, please stop arguing over this.  

Your nonsense was posted in the debate & discuss subforum. If you don't want to debate or discuss it, either don't post about, don't presume to tell others how to reply in d&d or, stop being such a hypocrit.  If you cannot manage to choose a reasonable option, stick with your unreasonable ones and ignore the replies.

[jcribb16]

*Sigh*  Falcon9, please stop arguing over this.  

Your nonsense was posted in the debate & discuss subforum. If you don't want to debate or discuss it, either don't post about, don't presume to tell others how to reply in d&d or, stop being such a hypocrit.  If you cannot manage to choose a reasonable option, stick with your unreasonable ones and ignore the replies.

You are doing exactly what you are accusing me of doing.  I was off the debate topic, clarifying something to another poster; and to say something to the fact of his calling names.  You are actually wanting to debate those 2 things?  You just sound like you want to argue no matter what.  Please don't tell me what to do, how to post, and calling me a hypocrite will not get you anywhere - I was clarifying something and you took off with it - that is nonsense to carry on about that particular thing.  You inserted yourself in a post to someone else that was a clarification to that person about a comment made to you. Now, if you wish to debate that, that's one thing, but as for the other, arguing for the sake of arguing is not the brightest idea you are trying to achieve.

[constance312003]

I have had a angel appear one night while I was in the church.  It was amazing.

[falcon9]

You inserted yourself in a post to someone else that was a clarification to that person about a comment made to you. Now, if you wish to debate that, that's one thing ...

How can I 'insert myself' into a post where you mentioned me by 'nym, (trolled me)?  I have no desire to debate your trolling since you'd deny doing it despite direct evidence of it.  Neither am I answering 'for' "alaric" since he is capable of doing so for himself.  My response to your hypocrisy was to point it out in relation to your general hypocrisy regarding the context of this thread.  You have no substantive evidence to support your speciously-claimed religious beliefs and that's pretty much the end of the debate you didn't participate in.

[falcon9]

I have had a angel appear one night while I was in the church.  It was amazing.

Yet the non-evidence for this is merely your religiously-biased claim alone?

[JediJohnnie]

Wait a moment, my response wasn't to you, falcon, it was a response to that jcribb character.  Check out the posts once again, I'm the guy on your side and now we're both going to hear another shotgun retort from that tunnel-head again.

Excuse me, alaric, in the first place, I wasn't responding to you - it was to falcon9.  In the 2nd place, I have not even called you names, much less had much to say to you.  You called me "that jcribb character," and "that tunnel-head."  Where do you get off calling people names on here like that?

I've noticed Alaric does this all the time.That's why I've correctly classified him as a "Hater".He cries salty tears over my "name-calling" of him on that,yet the reason why I call him a Hater is because he uses name calling and put-downs to Christians every chance he gets.

[alaric99x]

Oh well, the Star Wars ranger, predictable that you would show up with your repetitive "hater" comment.  It's not hatred, that's actually an insulting assumption you have about people who disagree with you, but the term is very appropriate in expressing your degree of religious fanaticism.  In earlier centuries you would have burned people like me at the stake, do you wish you still had the power to do that?