Pleease fix the surveys

[lmavans]

i havent had much problem with the surverys just soome of them say i have already did the survey and it is still there.

[quietpal]

There's so many way to earn on FC. There's nothing that can be done about the surveys. If they become too frustrating, then just don't do them.

[falcon9]

I have spent so many hours filling out to take surveys to get thrown off the survey. I think if someone spends that much time filling out a survey, they shouldn't be able to throw you off at the last question and not credit your account. I think that after a certain number of questions the should have to let you finish the survey, And  credit you for your time. I almost want to quit coming back to the site because of the amount of time I have spent compared, getting credit to not getting credit.  the ratio has to be more than 100 to 1 that I spend 100 minutes filling out surveys and get paid for 1 minute, a huge waist of my time.........

There's nothing to "fix" since survey completions are based upon different variables including demographic parameters and quota segments filling while one is taking a survey. The best way to avoid being DQ'd is not to take surveys.

your advice doesn't seem very well thought out . if a survey is that specific than the surveys aren't really surveys they are rigged to only get certain results, how is that a survey.

Your reply doesn't seem very well thought-out.  Survey providers generate different subjects for surveys as well as varying demographic parameters for each survey.  This means that they are seeking cross-sectional samples for different surveys, which means that they aren't "rigged to get certain results" but, will DQ once a sufficient representative sample has been obtained, (which may occur while one is still taking a survey - since you aren't the only one taking any particular survey).

      you can lead a donkey a million miles away and the donkey will still find its way home.

The donkey remark is manifest nonsense; one million miles would put the donkey in space.  Even as a non-literal metaphor, it conveys a false concept.

[Stealth3si]

I have spent so many hours filling out to take surveys to get thrown off the survey. I think if someone spends that much time filling out a survey, they shouldn't be able to throw you off at the last question and not credit your account. I think that after a certain number of questions the should have to let you finish the survey, And  credit you for your time. I almost want to quit coming back to the site because of the amount of time I have spent compared, getting credit to not getting credit.  the ratio has to be more than 100 to 1 that I spend 100 minutes filling out surveys and get paid for 1 minute, a huge waist of my time.........

That depends. Are you actually being disqualified or 'shafted?'

[falcon9]

I have spent so many hours filling out to take surveys to get thrown off the survey. I think if someone spends that much time filling out a survey, they shouldn't be able to throw you off at the last question and not credit your account. I think that after a certain number of questions the should have to let you finish the survey, And  credit you for your time. I almost want to quit coming back to the site because of the amount of time I have spent compared, getting credit to not getting credit.  the ratio has to be more than 100 to 1 that I spend 100 minutes filling out surveys and get paid for 1 minute, a huge waist of my time.........

That depends. Are you actually being disqualified or 'shafted?'

Any rumors to the effect that survey providers are DQing xtians instead of basing disqualifications upon demographics parameters or, those parameters filling while a survey is being taken are completely without merit.

[Stealth3si]

I have spent so many hours filling out to take surveys to get thrown off the survey. I think if someone spends that much time filling out a survey, they shouldn't be able to throw you off at the last question and not credit your account. I think that after a certain number of questions the should have to let you finish the survey, And  credit you for your time. I almost want to quit coming back to the site because of the amount of time I have spent compared, getting credit to not getting credit.  the ratio has to be more than 100 to 1 that I spend 100 minutes filling out surveys and get paid for 1 minute, a huge waist of my time.........

That depends. Are you actually being disqualified or 'shafted?'

Any rumors to the effect that survey providers are DQing xtians instead of basing disqualifications upon demographics parameters or, those parameters filling while a survey is being taken are completely without merit.

I'm not sure what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians".....

Anyways, based on my daily experience, there is no doubt disqualifiactions are 'legitamte' but i'm not talkinng about the DQ process at all. that's why i quaoted 'shafted'.. take for instance PSB surveys....

[falcon9]

I have spent so many hours filling out to take surveys to get thrown off the survey. 

That depends. Are you actually being disqualified or 'shafted?'

Any rumors to the effect that survey providers are DQing xtians instead of basing disqualifications upon demographics parameters or, those parameters filling while a survey is being taken are completely without merit.

I'm not sure what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians."

Read it again - any rumors to that effect are without merit.

Based on my daily experience, there is a diff between being disqualified and being 'taken for a ride.' Take PSB Surveys for instance.

Can you describe specifically what you are referring to with regard to those surveys?

[Stealth3si]

I have spent so many hours filling out to take surveys to get thrown off the survey.  

That depends. Are you actually being disqualified or 'shafted?'

Any rumors to the effect that survey providers are DQing xtians instead of basing disqualifications upon demographics parameters or, those parameters filling while a survey is being taken are completely without merit.

I'm not sure what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians."

Read it again - any rumors to that effect are without merit.

Based on my daily experience, there is a diff between being disqualified and being 'taken for a ride.' Take PSB Surveys for instance.

Can you describe specifically what you are referring to with regard to those surveys?

I did but what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians." if dont'see how that has anything to do with what i said, which would make your comment a bit confusing to say the least.

as to those PSB survey's, the end of the completing the survey, it shows a 'DQ' message. this means it has more to do with a poorly coded 'DQ' trigger than the implementation of the DQ itself. in this PSB case, it shows itself after a quota is meant rather than early in its phase launch of the survey. But even a 'buggy' survey can still 'error' early on.

[falcon9]

I did but what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians." if dont'see how that has anything to do with what i said, which would make your comment a bit confusing to say the least.

A sarcastic/dry sense of humor does not appeal to everyone.

... as to those PSB survey's, the end of the completing the survey, it shows a 'DQ' message. this means it has more to do with a poorly coded 'DQ' trigger than the implementation of the DQ itself. in this PSB case, it shows itself after a quota is meant rather than early in its phase launch of the survey. But even a 'buggy' survey can still 'error' early on.

Although I've seen that happen with other surveys, rarely does the survey taker get a DQ message explaining why.  Sometimes survey quotas fill right at the end of taking a survey, (especially when the demographic segment parameter questions are placed at the end of a survey, rather than in the beginning as pre-qualifiers).

[Stealth3si]

I did but what you mean by "survey providers are DQing xtians." if dont'see how that has anything to do with what i said, which would make your comment a bit confusing to say the least.

A sarcastic/dry sense of humor does not appeal to everyone.

... as to those PSB survey's, the end of the completing the survey, it shows a 'DQ' message. this means it has more to do with a poorly coded 'DQ' trigger than the implementation of the DQ itself. in this PSB case, it shows itself after a quota is meant rather than early in its phase launch of the survey. But even a 'buggy' survey can still 'error' early on.

Although I've seen that happen with other surveys, rarely does the survey taker get a DQ message explaining why.  Sometimes survey quotas fill right at the end of taking a survey, (especially when the demographic segment parameter questions are placed at the end of a survey, rather than in the beginning as pre-qualifiers).

I like that kind of humor, but not all types of that kind of humor is appealing to me. it's weird and ends up trying too hard,...

As fo the surveys, i odn't take issue with teh DQ itself, but rather the code/desing oft he survey, which affects the DQ process as a byproduct (which why it would appear to be DQ'd to survey takers), and introduces a whole set of diff issues, i.e., 'residual' surveys, 'zombified, 'stale', 'gliitchy' BJ easily comes to mind, altho they use to be reall good before but recently either their coding or the GPT or someone else's is buggy that they bring you to their own congrats page.

[falcon9]

As fo the surveys, i odn't take issue with teh DQ itself, but rather the code/desing oft he survey, which affects the DQ process as a byproduct (which why it would appear to be DQ'd to survey takers), and introduces a whole set of diff issues, i.e., 'residual' surveys, 'zombified, 'stale', 'gliitchy' BJ easily comes to mind, altho they use to be reall good before but recently either their coding or the GPT or someone else's is buggy that they bring you to their own congrats page.

It been said before and it'll be said again, "glitch happens."

[Administrator]

It's also not just a matter of quotas filling... you can be DQ'd at any time if the survey provider detects inconsistent answers, or if you are speeding (e.g. in the top 5% fastest completers).  Those are things that can take many questions to detect and be sure about.  Judging by the fact that some members are really consistently rewarded with survey credits, while others with similar demographics are not, I would guess that many members are inadvertently DQ'ing themselves through inconsistent answers.  Unfortunately, for security reasons, we are not told why a DQ happens, only that it did happen.  This is to prevent people who try to game the system (e.g. with automatic software) from knowing how they were caught and refining their methods.

We would love to have nothing but surveys who credit for every person that starts them.  But there is too much fraud among paid surveys for that to be possible.  Since the survey providers write the checks, they decide who qualifies.  They have to protect the integrity of their research in order to get future projects.  It's normal to have high expectations of the businesses that you interact with, but try to keep in mind that when taking surveys, you are getting paid.  It's a different dynamic than usual (where you are the one paying the company).

[falcon9]

It's also not just a matter of quotas filling... you can be DQ'd at any time if the survey provider detects inconsistent answers, or if you are speeding (e.g. in the top 5% fastest completers).  Those are things that can take many questions to detect and be sure about.  Judging by the fact that some members are really consistently rewarded with survey credits, while others with similar demographics are not, I would guess that many members are inadvertently DQ'ing themselves through inconsistent answers.  Unfortunately, for security reasons, we are not told why a DQ happens, only that it did happen.  This is to prevent people who try to game the system (e.g. with automatic software) from knowing how they were caught and refining their methods.

We would love to have nothing but surveys who credit for every person that starts them.  But there is too much fraud among paid surveys for that to be possible.  Since the survey providers write the checks, they decide who qualifies.  They have to protect the integrity of their research in order to get future projects.  It's normal to have high expectations of the businesses that you interact with, but try to keep in mind that when taking surveys, you are getting paid.  It's a different dynamic than usual (where you are the one paying the company).

Thank you for clarifying the survey process as much as is practical to do.  I suppose it's somewhat easier for some people taking surveys to assume that a DQ means they're being 'taken' however, there's usually an underlying reason for it which they are nominally unaware of.

[Stealth3si]

As fo the surveys, i odn't take issue with teh DQ itself, but rather the code/desing oft he survey, which affects the DQ process as a byproduct (which why it would appear to be DQ'd to survey takers), and introduces a whole set of diff issues, i.e., 'residual' surveys, 'zombified, 'stale', 'gliitchy' BJ easily comes to mind, altho they use to be reall good before but recently either their coding or the GPT or someone else's is buggy that they bring you to their own congrats page.

It been said before and it'll be said again, "glitch happens."

exactly; expired ones too more oftren than not

It's also not just a matter of quotas filling... you can be DQ'd at any time if the survey provider detects inconsistent answers, or if you are speeding (e.g. in the top 5% fastest completers).  Those are things that can take many questions to detect and be sure about.  Judging by the fact that some members are really consistently rewarded with survey credits, while others with similar demographics are not, I would guess that many members are inadvertently DQ'ing themselves through inconsistent answers.  Unfortunately, for security reasons, we are not told why a DQ happens, only that it did happen.  This is to prevent people who try to game the system (e.g. with automatic software) from knowing how they were caught and refining their methods.

We would love to have nothing but surveys who credit for every person that starts them.  But there is too much fraud among paid surveys for that to be possible.  Since the survey providers write the checks, they decide who qualifies.  They have to protect the integrity of their research in order to get future projects.  It's normal to have high expectations of the businesses that you interact with, but try to keep in mind that when taking surveys, you are getting paid.  It's a different dynamic than usual (where you are the one paying the company).

first paragraph: whiel there are many surveys like that which is a good thing in light of what you jsut said and very infomrative thanks (IMHO if a survey needs to take these kinds of 'preventative' measure to ensure the quality fo the survey then i wouldn't consider them to be quality surveys in the first place, in fact, i think a real qualiy survey is one where it's so good that quality and integrity isn't even an issue to begin with and therefore such methods would be unnecessary but maybe my standards are too high), there are also a lot of offers that don't 'credit' properly. if that's true then it might be the same for surveys if they use similar code/system/platform/company/design/affiliates/etc, etc..

second paragraph: i don't hink ppl aren't as livid having it more to do with nto merely getting paid for their efforst than investing excessive amount of their time on 'expired' surveys, taht is one particular survey. this is unforuntately part of the imperfect system trying 'perfect' it self from unwanted "by-products"

[Stealth3si]

It's also not just a matter of quotas filling... you can be DQ'd at any time if the survey provider detects inconsistent answers, or if you are speeding (e.g. in the top 5% fastest completers).  Those are things that can take many questions to detect and be sure about.  Judging by the fact that some members are really consistently rewarded with survey credits, while others with similar demographics are not, I would guess that many members are inadvertently DQ'ing themselves through inconsistent answers.  Unfortunately, for security reasons, we are not told why a DQ happens, only that it did happen.  This is to prevent people who try to game the system (e.g. with automatic software) from knowing how they were caught and refining their methods.

We would love to have nothing but surveys who credit for every person that starts them.  But there is too much fraud among paid surveys for that to be possible.  Since the survey providers write the checks, they decide who qualifies.  They have to protect the integrity of their research in order to get future projects.  It's normal to have high expectations of the businesses that you interact with, but try to keep in mind that when taking surveys, you are getting paid.  It's a different dynamic than usual (where you are the one paying the company).

Thank you for clarifying the survey process as much as is practical to do.  I suppose it's somewhat easier for some people taking surveys to assume that a DQ means they're being 'taken' however, there's usually an underlying reason for it which they are nominally unaware of.

i dont' disagree that DQs occur for those reasons, which is prefectly unsrestandble, it's however also possible, and more likely than one would conjecture, that there are actually surveys, like offers, that similarily 'credit' improperly or are expired but in a quite subtle method. this is hwere the "apaprent DQs" are rooted from.

basically, different ways of producing thes ame results.