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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #60 on: August 09, 2012, 02:12:32 pm »

The Necronomicon, as written by H.P. Lovecraft is an occult fiction, written by that famous writer of horror stories. It became such a phenomenon that countless other books were written in an apparent attempt to cash in on it's popularity. The Necronomicon Spellbook is not the same book as the one written by H.P. Lovecraft. While it's origins are also suspect, the magick contained therein is proved to be a workable magick system that is based on ancient Sumerian magick. With that concept in mind, here you go:

"Barrier that none can pass,
Barrier of the gods, that none may break,
Barrier of heaven and earth that none can change,
Which no god may annul,
Nor god nor man can loose,
A snare without escape, set for evil,
A net whence none can issue forth, spread for evil.
Whether it be evil Spirit, or evil Demon, or evil Ghost,
Or evil Devil, or evil God, or evil fiend,
Or Hag-demon, or Ghoul, or Robber-sprite,
Or Phantom, or Night-wraith, or Handmaid of the Phantom,
Or evil Plague, or Fever sickness, or Unclean Disease,
Which hath attacked the shining waters of Ea,
May the snare of Ea catch it;
Or which hath assailed the meal of Nisaba,
May the net of Nisaba entrap it;
Or which hath broken the barrier,
Let not the barrier of the gods,
The barrier of heaven and earth, let it go free;
Or which reverence not the great gods,
May the great gods entrap it,
May the great gods curse it;
Or which attacketh the house,
Into a closed dwelling may they cause it to enter;
Or which circleth round about,
Into a place without escape may they bring it;
Or which is shut in by the house door,
Into a house without exit may they cause it to enter;
Or that which passeth the door and bolt,
With door and bolt, a bar immovable, may they withhold it;
Or which bloweth in at the threshold and hinge,
Or which forceth a way through bar and latch,
Like water may they pour it out,
Like a goblet may they dash it in pieces,
Like a tile may they break it;
Or which passeth over the wall,
Its wing may they cut off;
Or which (lieth) in a chamber,
Its throat may they cut;
Or which looketh in at a side chamber,
Its face may they smite;
Or which muttereth in a chamber,
Its mouth may they shut;
Or which roameth loose in an upper chamber,
With a basin without opening may they cover it;
Or which at dawn is darkened,
At dawn to a place of sunrise may they take it."
-- (from an Assyrian Tablet)


I was referring to the Lovecraft work. I appreciate anything other than a Bible verse for once. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!  :)

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #61 on: August 09, 2012, 02:29:26 pm »
I was referring to the Lovecraft work. I appreciate anything other than a Bible verse for once. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!  :)

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #62 on: August 09, 2012, 03:25:53 pm »
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magic is for people in la la land or devil worshipers im sorry no no and you open doors you should not open its kinda scary just light color candles for goodluck and read horoscope and tarot cards nothing else please lolits asking for trouble sweetie trust me karma will bite you 3 times back  

The bible is full of magic and strange rituals though.

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You are a hypocrite, yourself.  You bash Christians for their beliefs, and enjoy promoting Wicca just to pick at the Christians.  Are you becoming a Wiccan?  People generally promote what they believe and support.  Please do explain.

I'm under the impression that he's promoting different beliefs other than the crazy christian zealots that keep popping up left and right. It does get tiresome hearing the same popular nonsense. Might as well exercise that free speech and talk about different (and arguably more interesting and unique) nonsense.
So, in other words, it's quite okay to be sarcastic about the Christian posts, mock, bash, belittle, disrespect, etc., but whoa - hold the train, if a Christian comes in to exercise their free speech in a wiccan post.  Free speech goes both ways.  I'm not interested in bashing wicca in the least.  It's just very odd he would bash the Christians, then begin his own wicca thread, when he doesn't believe in that, then make remarks because Christians dare to come in and question him about either his motive, or whether or not he is practicing wicca.

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #63 on: August 09, 2012, 03:29:15 pm »
You are a hypocrite, yourself. 

Look up the word; you are inaccurately applying it to me which means you're bearing false witness, xtian.

You bash Christians for their beliefs, and enjoy promoting Wicca just to pick at the Christians. 

Once again, you attempt to impute false intent you fabricated to me.  I'm not "promoting" wica per se; I'd initiated a thread about a non-xtian subject matter.  It didn't take long for a fellow xtian fundie to "bash" a federally-recognised religion, (wica).  The thread was not posted to "pick at the xtians" any more than the xtian proselytiing threads were posted to "pick at" non-xtians.  Unless you're now tacitly admitting that's the intent of the xtian biblical threads and numerous posts containing xtian religious superstitions, then you're a hypocrit, (unless the actual meaning of the word).

Are you becoming a Wiccan?  People generally promote what they believe and support.  Please do explain.

The thread is open to those who want to discuss alternate belief systems; wica is one.  Satanism, (another federally-recognised religion), is another.  I'm neither and yet, still 'free' to discuss off topic subjects in the off-topic forum as you xtian fundies are.
Except, you do not choose to "discuss" Christianity - you bash.  I'm not bashing wicca.  That's their choice to do that.  I'm just joining in a discussion, like you do, except that you bash, questioning either your motive behind what you are obviously doing, or whether or not you are actually practicing what you are promoting - like you know everything about something that you have not tried.  Or have you?  I'm just simply questioning you as part of my free speech and curiosity in these forums, too.

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #64 on: August 09, 2012, 03:38:58 pm »
It's obvious that F---9 (that's how I'm going to refer to him,since he can't bring himself to actually spell such words as "Christian" and "God") only started this thread in hopes that Christians would bash Wiccans the same way he bashes Christians.How's that working out for you?

You have to wonder about a guy that starts and promotes a thread devoted to a subject he doesn't actually believe in himself.

Google JediJohnnie and May the Force be with you!

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #65 on: August 09, 2012, 04:03:36 pm »
Except, you do not choose to "discuss" Christianity - you bash. 

You can characterize any dissenting viewpoint as 'bashing' because there really aren't many 'politically-correct' ways to white-wash the negative aspects of the xtian belief system, ('well, they did murder millions of non-believers but, it was for their own good'?).  Dispensing with such beating-around-the-bush will result in a blind-faither getting defensive about dissent.

I'm not bashing wicca. 

No, instead you're "bashing" me for posting a wiccan thread.  The difference is subtle, huh?
 
I'm just joining in a discussion, like you do, except that you bash, questioning either your motive behind what you are obviously doing, or whether or not you are actually practicing what you are promoting - like you know everything about something that you have not tried. 

So, you're admitting that your motive is to "bash" me for posting about wica when I'm not wiccan, (which/witch isn't a prerequsite for posting in general about a subject).

Or have you?  I'm just simply questioning you as part of my free speech and curiosity in these forums, too.

Question away.  I'll choose to answer or not, much like you choosing not to substantiate your religious claims, (without the blind-faith cop-out).
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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #66 on: August 09, 2012, 04:24:03 pm »
It's obvious that F---9 (that's how I'm going to refer to him,since he can't bring himself to actually spell such words as "Christian" and "God") only started this thread in hopes that Christians would bash Wiccans the same way he bashes Christians.How's that working out for you?

You fundies are fixated on that word - dissent becomes "bashing" according to either non-bias or the bias of a religious believer. Right now, you're interjecting your "bashing" of someone, (me), into a wiccan thread while previously claiming to have ignored the poster, (me), who initiated this thread.  Besides imparting general information on wicca to contrast the constant xtian proselytizing posts, (and if I'm not proselytizing wica, how can I be "trolling" xtians to bash it?), by "bashing" only one author of such posts and not the others, two fundie xtians have revealed their intent to "bash" the "basher", (sure, it's childish and immature but then, so is xtianty).

You have to wonder about a guy that starts and promotes a thread devoted to a subject he doesn't actually believe in himself.

If you 'enjoyed' that, you're going to love a forthcoming thread about satanism.
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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #67 on: August 09, 2012, 04:30:14 pm »
It's obvious that F---9 (that's how I'm going to refer to him,since he can't bring himself to actually spell such words as "Christian" and "God") only started this thread in hopes that Christians would bash Wiccans the same way he bashes Christians.How's that working out for you?

You have to wonder about a guy that starts and promotes a thread devoted to a subject he doesn't actually believe in himself.

Absolutely.  He does not "approve" of what he calls "spells" in Christianity, yet will begin a wicca thread, promoting spells or whatever he bashes Christians about.  We all know that this thread was started as a thorn against the Christian threads. Like you mentioned, we're not going to bash another person's way of believing - it's their personal choice, as ours is. But I will question why he is essentially "preaching" something he doesn't practice, including studying it so it looks like he knows something grand when posting.  That's when I ask him IF he is indeed practicing wicca.  Fair questions.

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #68 on: August 09, 2012, 04:53:08 pm »
He does not "approve" of what he calls "spells" in Christianity, yet will begin a wicca thread, promoting spells or whatever ...

Which wiccan "spells" exactly have I "promoted"?  An incantation derived from H.P. Lovecraft's fictional  Necronomicron is equivalent to the fictional 'bible'?
 
We all know that this thread was started as a thorn against the Christian threads.

No, you're guessing that's the intent due to your barely-restrained religious bias.  You're no 'mind-reader', (because that would be 'witchcraft').

That's when I ask him IF he is indeed practicing wicca. 

That's when I chose not to answer, just like when you "choose" not to substantiate your specious religious claims, (btw, copying sophist nonsense from the "bible.org" site is using a tainted/biased source and does not constitute untainted evidence).
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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #69 on: August 09, 2012, 06:43:14 pm »
He does not "approve" of what he calls "spells" in Christianity, yet will begin a wicca thread, promoting spells or whatever ...

Which wiccan "spells" exactly have I "promoted"?  An incantation derived from H.P. Lovecraft's fictional  Necronomicron is equivalent to the fictional 'bible'?
 
We all know that this thread was started as a thorn against the Christian threads.

No, you're guessing that's the intent due to your barely-restrained religious bias.  You're no 'mind-reader', (because that would be 'witchcraft').

That's when I ask him IF he is indeed practicing wicca. 

That's when I chose not to answer, just like when you "choose" not to substantiate your specious religious claims, (btw, copying sophist nonsense from the "bible.org" site is using a tainted/biased source and does not constitute untainted evidence).
That last comment of yours is simply your opinion, and an assessment, without verifiable facts.  You must know about something clear through, inside and out, to be able to make your comment an assertion.  You have not done so.

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #70 on: August 09, 2012, 09:57:36 pm »
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So, in other words, it's quite okay to be sarcastic about the Christian posts, mock, bash, belittle, disrespect, etc., but whoa - hold the train, if a Christian comes in to exercise their free speech in a wiccan post.  Free speech goes both ways.  I'm not interested in bashing wicca in the least.  It's just very odd he would bash the Christians, then begin his own wicca thread, when he doesn't believe in that, then make remarks because Christians dare to come in and question him about either his motive, or whether or not he is practicing wicca.

Where did I say it's not okay to do either? And I'd suggest taking a step back and rereading any mocking or disrespecting as it just might be showing a major flaw in whatever the issue being discussed is. A lot of the religious threads have been doing this for a while-

"The bible is true. The bible says so."
"That's circular logic."
"No it's not."
"You're ignorant to the problem."
"HOW DARE YOU BASH ME!"

And seeing how 99% of religious threads are xtian because they just can't seem to be quiet about it, I find it completely fine to introduce different religions into the forum (whether the reasons for introducing it be legitimate or trolling) as long as there's some form of legit education involved. Ia Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!
« Last Edit: August 09, 2012, 10:02:39 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2012, 10:35:41 pm »
I love this thread. I didn't want to start an Wicca thread my self because I didn't want people to bash my religion and me, but there is positive with the negative and I like that. I hope this thread goes far. I'll be reading and posting periodically.

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #72 on: August 09, 2012, 10:44:11 pm »
(btw, copying sophist nonsense from the "bible.org" site is using a tainted/biased source and does not constitute untainted evidence).

That last comment of yours is simply your opinion, and an assessment, without verifiable facts.

Are you seriously implying that "bible.org" is not a xtian source?  What, they're really satanic or, wiccan?  The source is xtian and therefore, contains an inherent xtian bias.  This is not simply 'my' "opinion since it consists of simple logic even a xtian ought to grok, (..."bible/xtian" ...), unless they're being particularly obtuse.
 
You must know about something clear through, inside and out, to be able to make your comment an assertion.  You have not done so.

No, you must have sufficient evidence, (and there is), to make such an assessment.  There is never complete data available, (this does not negate reasoning based upon sufficient data to make assessments as opposed to jumping to concllusions). Reasoning is not your forte.

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their discredited preconceptions, lie outside the domain of science --or any honest intellectual inquiry."
-- Stephen J. Gould
« Last Edit: August 09, 2012, 10:47:33 pm by falcon9 »
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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #73 on: August 10, 2012, 09:17:58 am »
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magic is for people in la la land or devil worshipers im sorry no no and you open doors you should not open its kinda scary just light color candles for goodluck and read horoscope and tarot cards nothing else please lolits asking for trouble sweetie trust me karma will bite you 3 times back  

The bible is full of magic and strange rituals though.

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You are a hypocrite, yourself.  You bash Christians for their beliefs, and enjoy promoting Wicca just to pick at the Christians.  Are you becoming a Wiccan?  People generally promote what they believe and support.  Please do explain.

I'm under the impression that he's promoting different beliefs other than the crazy christian zealots that keep popping up left and right. It does get tiresome hearing the same popular nonsense. Might as well exercise that free speech and talk about different (and arguably more interesting and unique) nonsense.
So, in other words, it's quite okay to be sarcastic about the Christian posts, mock, bash, belittle, disrespect, etc., but whoa - hold the train, if a Christian comes in to exercise their free speech in a wiccan post.  Free speech goes both ways.  I'm not interested in bashing wicca in the least.  It's just very odd he would bash the Christians, then begin his own wicca thread, when he doesn't believe in that, then make remarks because Christians dare to come in and question him about either his motive, or whether or not he is practicing wicca.
Wicca makes a whole lot more since worshiping nature rather then an invisible man in the sky...

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Re: daily wiccan book of shadows excerpts
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2012, 09:19:39 am »
It's obvious that F---9 (that's how I'm going to refer to him,since he can't bring himself to actually spell such words as "Christian" and "God") only started this thread in hopes that Christians would bash Wiccans the same way he bashes Christians.How's that working out for you?

You fundies are fixated on that word - dissent becomes "bashing" according to either non-bias or the bias of a religious believer. Right now, you're interjecting your "bashing" of someone, (me), into a wiccan thread while previously claiming to have ignored the poster, (me), who initiated this thread.  Besides imparting general information on wicca to contrast the constant xtian proselytizing posts, (and if I'm not proselytizing wica, how can I be "trolling" xtians to bash it?), by "bashing" only one author of such posts and not the others, two fundie xtians have revealed their intent to "bash" the "basher", (sure, it's childish and immature but then, so is xtianty).

You have to wonder about a guy that starts and promotes a thread devoted to a subject he doesn't actually believe in himself.

If you 'enjoyed' that, you're going to love a forthcoming thread about satanism.

Don't do that do an Antitheism !

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