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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2012, 11:06:56 pm »
Sorry but i never believe  you could be born gay

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2012, 01:01:15 am »
Since only heterosexual matings can produce "gay" or "straight" offspring, should heterosexual humans be 'blamed' for producing "gay" ones?
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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2012, 01:29:44 am »
Read somewhere that it's not usually genetic but that sexual preference can be influenced by hormones in the womb. I dont think most people would choose to be different from mainstream so dont think its a choice for most. Anyway, its not right to persecute people.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2012, 09:01:25 am »
Why would someone choose to be gay?  So someone like you can judge and push your hate on them?  Why were you born straight?  It just happens.  It's a shame that we still talk and debate this issue.  No one chooses their sexual orientation.  They can only choose whether or not to express it.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2012, 01:11:03 pm »
I had a brother (RIP) who was gay, and he struggled with it for a long time. You are attracted to what you are attracted to, and it is not a choice, it is a feeling. Can you make yourself stop feeling something that you deeply feel? 

I am so sorry you lost your brother  :-[

But I do have a question for you..... Is being Gay a disease? Since you are saying "he struggled with it for a long time" sounds kinda like cancer or something.

May he be in peace and God have mercy.  :'(

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2012, 01:50:09 pm »
I do not believe you are born gay.Not saying it can't happen.I just believe it's more of the people you associate with.Peer pressure.
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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2012, 03:04:49 pm »
Now I see how the GOP exists and thrives.  The rich are only 1%... but the racist, uneducated, simple minded bigots are many.  Appeal to these people's fears and you rule.  Also it helps if you make these poor people believe that someday they too will have a mansion just so long as the government isn't allowed to stop them from doing so. 

I will say this without any sugar coating... IF YOU BELIEVE HOMOSEXUALITY IS "WRONG" YOU ARE NOT SMART!
No other way to say this.  I DON NOT have to "respect' your dumb beliefs. I just cannot LEGALLY prohibit you from believing it.  However please know that you are completely wrong about everything.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2012, 07:30:50 pm »
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As far as being a bigot apparently that could go both ways since you can not accept others points of view without shouting and going into name calling. (Saying people are not smart) I do not call names. I know a few gays, and I let them go peacefully on their way. I do not befriend them either when society puts you around someone you don't like you should act like a mature adult about it. I call that the co-worker syndrome you don't have to like them but you got to get along with them until the end of the day as civilly as possible.

I was not lying I would disown one of my children if they told me they were gay. It will always be wrong in my book. And I would accept it even less if it were my child.


So... you define a bigot, admit to mirror said behavior, THEN claim not to be a bigot???  Genius.
This remind me of the drug addicted negligent mother who loudly declares "I'm a good mother"...  Just saying that you aren't a bigot doesn't mean you aren't one. Bigot.

I stand by my declaration that you are not smart.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2012, 07:48:35 pm »
I would like this explained to me in a way that I can understand. Seems ridiculous that a baby can be gay.

Can someone be born stupid?

lol good one  ;D

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2012, 08:33:45 pm »
No one is born gay. ::)

Let's be honest here.

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you clearly must have a mental illness.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2012, 10:44:54 pm »
dansazz~ I would like this explained to me in a way that I can understand. Seems ridiculous that a baby can be gay.
Most people think that having a baby is easy, just get prego. & pop out comes the baby a blue blanket or a pink blanket.In reality,it's amazing how the fetus gets through the gestation period & through the 9 months of development w/out serious problems.Anything that happens to the mother will affect the baby.Stress alone can alter the chemical status of the baby,when mechanisms that control the hormones that turn on or turn off things in the body;somethings can go wrong,like female hormones not shutting off when it should have in a baby boy or hormones that was suppose to stop producing for a baby girl but doesn't over flowing her w/too much testosterone.Documentation/reports of gay people was found to have been conceived or born during war times of WWI WWII...etc.So,no I don't think gay is genetic & I've not heard of any cases where the sperm of a gay man produced a gay baby.

In this society of anti-gay or anti anything different from the norm:what sane person would want to cause hell in his life by deciding to be gay?!No,being gay is not a choice:it's a result of something going wrong while developing inside the mother! :male: :female: :BangHead:  ::) so get over it people; you can't turn gay by being near one. :peace: :wave:


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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2012, 11:34:40 pm »
That's like saying that being female makes you like taking care of kids and being male makes you like sports.  Being born a certain gender doesn't dictate what sort of activities we like, why would it dictate who we like?  I think a lot of it is based on how people are raised.  Everyone is raised seeing different images and finding different things attractive.  Find two girls raised in different households and each will find different features attractive.  Same with boys as well.  Some people will want their partner to be taller than them, or to have bigger lips, or thousand of other traits.  

These traits aren't just limited to the sex we are attracted too.  Heck, girls tell each other how they look good when shopping for clothes or such.  Obviously we see attractive features regardless of sex of the person who possesses them.  So, I don't think people are necessarily born gay or straight, we just begin to be drawn towards a certain gender as we discover more about ourselves. 

I do believe it is a choice though.  I'm sure there was a small percentage that found their same sex attractive but figured everyone else felt the same way and just went along with social convention.

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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2012, 12:56:07 am »
I am also a God fearing Baptist who holds nothing against the atheist they need to make up their own mind about their belief's ...

Whereas I'm a rational human who fears no such manmade supernatural egregores and who holds religious adherents responsible for their own self-inflicted mind-blindness of "faith".

I was not lying I would disown one of my children if they told me they were gay. It will always be wrong in my book. And I would accept it even less if it were my child.

Uttered like a 'true-believer' fundie.

I could care less about examples of animals. (someone gave) Animals are not people.

You assert that "animals are not people" after proclaiming not to be a bigoted racist, (if you exclude animals from the human race, that's racist, bigoted and prejudiced).

Nobody has to respect anyone's opinion and everyone has a opinion and nobody seldom shares them. We are all have a brain and we are all allowed to use them.

That's an interesting point and in that case, I'll use my mind to determine that I don't respect your religiously-prejudiced opinion.

"In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2012, 01:01:16 am »
No one is born gay. ::)

No one is born a religious fundamentalist.  It's a blindness they acquire after exposure to proselytizing propaganda if their will is weak.

If you're a dude,and you reject this


for this




you clearly must have a mental illness.

Following that line of non-reasoning, if someone rejects rational thought process and embraces illogical irrationality, they'd clearly signify some sort of mental illness, aye?

"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: How can someone be born gay?
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2012, 03:06:45 am »
Didn't I ask you to stop quoting me once before?

Perhaps so however, as I recall, you don't get to issue demands which others are obligated to comply with on a forum which is not some exclusive xtian countryclub.  Tough break, nyet comrade?

I will never respect your opinions either, but once again I have never quoted you first.

Why would I care one way or the other if some mind-blind fundie respects blind faith over reason?

As for animals though I run a pet rescue and care for them dearly I would never put them equal to human kind, because they are not human. They are in fact living breathing creatures who I would fight for their life to live and be a voice for but you will never hear me refer to them as equal to mankind.

So, do you believe that you're more intelligent or compassionate than, say a dolphin?  If so, I'd find that rather dubious.

I hope you are a vegetarian after the comment you just made. I sure am!

Nope.  My ancestors didn't claw their way to near the top of the food-chain to eat leaves.

You are the opposite of a Bible Thumpper and honestly seem to have entirely too much time on your hands to fill a forum with your beliefs.  :BangHead:

I agree that I'm the polar opposite of a religiously-proselytizing bible-thumper, (since I have no 'bible' to thump and logic cannot be properly 'proselytized').  What, exactly are you assuming my "beliefs" to be?  
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