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falcon9

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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #495 on: October 03, 2012, 06:43:12 pm »
Take your own advice, it doesn't apply to the reasoned objections to unsubstantiated superstitious claptrap.  Now, if you had any substantiated claptrap, you'd have presented evidence for it by now.

You are CHOOSING to read them - get over the whining.
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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #496 on: October 03, 2012, 08:15:30 pm »
Take your own advice, it doesn't apply to the reasoned objections to unsubstantiated superstitious claptrap.  Now, if you had any substantiated claptrap, you'd have presented evidence for it by now.

You are CHOOSING to read them - get over the whining.
I don't offer advice unless I follow it first.  I choose whatever threads I enjoy going into, and do not enjoy some threads, so will not enter them, and some threads I may or may not enter, depending on what's going on and whether or not I wish to join in.  You accept nothing from any believer, anyway - you have your own views of things and do not deviate from them.  Believers have their views, as well, and will strongly support them.  Surely you cannot expect less.  Once again, whining gets you nowhere.

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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #497 on: October 03, 2012, 08:35:42 pm »
I don't offer advice unless I follow it first.

That's manifestly false in this context because you just 'advised' me to do something you're not.  That's hypocritical of you. 

You accept nothing from any believer, anyway - you have your own views of things and do not deviate from them. 

That's incorrect, I will consider actual evidence or logical reasoning when it's presented however, you religious adherents have consistantly failed to present anything along those lines.  Instead, unsupported hearsay, empty assertions, blind faith-based beliefs and other irrational non-arguments have been posted in lieu of logical reasoning or valid evidence.  Doubtless you've never questioned your own a priori assumptions, (or consider their irrational basis 'acceptable'), as I do on a regular basis.  Therefore, all you've done is to emphasize once again a contention that your blind faith is impervious to reasoning while logical reasoning is impervious to blind faith.
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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #498 on: October 04, 2012, 12:44:15 am »

What I believe in the way of Creation by God, is sure more believable than something out of nothing by no one and assembling nothing into perfection.  So you believe your way and I'll believe mine.  You have nothing to show for nothing creating its nothingness into something.  Whereas God creating from His way, with everything in its place, including land, water, air, humans, animals, etc., is more believable, including using both spiritual and science. 

You have proven nothing to me as far as your views supporting creating the heavens and earth as being more provable than God creating them.  There is an Intelligent Design, of which I've spoken with you about, before, that is way more acceptable, provable, and we have agreed to disagree on this subject.  I will not accept the Evolution way of creation and you will not accept Intelligent Design. 

                               

                    
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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #499 on: October 04, 2012, 12:53:42 am »
What I believe in the way of Creation by God, is sure more believable than something out of nothing by no one and assembling nothing into perfection.  So you believe your way and I'll believe mine.  You have nothing to show for nothing creating its nothingness into something.  Whereas God creating from His way, with everything in its place, including land, water, air, humans, animals, etc., is more believable, including using both spiritual and science.  
You have proven nothing to me as far as your views supporting creating the heavens and earth as being more provable than God creating them.  There is an Intelligent Design, of which I've spoken with you about, before, that is way more acceptable, provable, and we have agreed to disagree on this subject.  I will not accept the Evolution way of creation and you will not accept Intelligent Design. 

                               



Curiously, the religious adherent has claimed, (without evidence supporting such a claim), that "intelligent design" is "way more acceptable, provable" and yet, no proof/evidence has been offered to accept.  Blind religious faith does not constitute valid evidence since it is based upon 'belief', in lieu of evidentiary proof.  Amazingly enough, a religious adherent ha made yet another unsupported, (empty), claim and possibly expects that such an empty assertionis to be taken at face value.  Okay, I accept that the religious adherent has made a false claim based upon the lack of proof presented to support it, (at face value, which is to say, having no value other than to provide evidence that the religious adherent prefers to make empty and subsequently false claims).
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Re: Daily Bible Verse
« Reply #500 on: October 04, 2012, 01:10:44 am »
Well I don't think anyone says it better than Spock, when he says:

               
                    
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Re: Daily nonbiblical universe
« Reply #501 on: October 04, 2012, 01:16:05 am »
Well I don't think anyone says it better than Spock, when he says:

              

Certainly not however, most, (if not all), of the religious adherents to blind faith seem to maintain that their irrational superstitions don't require proof/evidence - as if that exempts them or, their superstitions from the burden of proof requirements of making a claim.  More and more, faith-based religion appears indistinguishable from a malevolent 'mind-virus'.
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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #502 on: October 04, 2012, 07:16:54 pm »

What I believe in the way of Creation by God, is sure more believable than something out of nothing by no one and assembling nothing into perfection.  So you believe your way and I'll believe mine.  You have nothing to show for nothing creating its nothingness into something.  Whereas God creating from His way, with everything in its place, including land, water, air, humans, animals, etc., is more believable, including using both spiritual and science. 

You have proven nothing to me as far as your views supporting creating the heavens and earth as being more provable than God creating them.  There is an Intelligent Design, of which I've spoken with you about, before, that is way more acceptable, provable, and we have agreed to disagree on this subject.  I will not accept the Evolution way of creation and you will not accept Intelligent Design. 

                               


2 each of every (he and she)  Study the measurements of the ark.  Also remember many animals of today are different breeds and mixed breeds - not like so much back then.  :)

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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #503 on: October 04, 2012, 07:22:11 pm »
What I believe in the way of Creation by God, is sure more believable than something out of nothing by no one and assembling nothing into perfection.  So you believe your way and I'll believe mine.  You have nothing to show for nothing creating its nothingness into something.  Whereas God creating from His way, with everything in its place, including land, water, air, humans, animals, etc., is more believable, including using both spiritual and science.  
You have proven nothing to me as far as your views supporting creating the heavens and earth as being more provable than God creating them.  There is an Intelligent Design, of which I've spoken with you about, before, that is way more acceptable, provable, and we have agreed to disagree on this subject.  I will not accept the Evolution way of creation and you will not accept Intelligent Design. 

                               



Curiously, the religious adherent has claimed, (without evidence supporting such a claim), that "intelligent design" is "way more acceptable, provable" and yet, no proof/evidence has been offered to accept.  Blind religious faith does not constitute valid evidence since it is based upon 'belief', in lieu of evidentiary proof.  Amazingly enough, a religious adherent ha made yet another unsupported, (empty), claim and possibly expects that such an empty assertionis to be taken at face value.  Okay, I accept that the religious adherent has made a false claim based upon the lack of proof presented to support it, (at face value, which is to say, having no value other than to provide evidence that the religious adherent prefers to make empty and subsequently false claims).
I also said in response to Falconer that they are archived and can be retrieved from there.  That is if you are really motivated and interested enough to do so.  You don't accept anything anyway, and I don't have the time to repeat every little thing that has already been posted.  Including posters who either do not post as much as they did then, or have since left the site, who also provided great information about this.  You are still whining about 'someone' while speaking around that 'someone' instead of to the 'someone.'  I'll repeat - it gets you nowhere but in your same circle of your constant repetitive favorite big words.

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Re: Daily Bible Verse
« Reply #504 on: October 04, 2012, 07:34:28 pm »
It shows you how dense Duroz is.....

God just creates the universe in perfect order and HE cant create an ark that will hold animals?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cant help comment on those that dont have any discernment.But i am wasting my time replying to that cos he cant discern in the first place what the hec i am talking about.

He just enjoys putting up his dumb posters and thinking hes back in kindergarten.

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Re: Daily Bible Verse
« Reply #505 on: October 04, 2012, 08:18:49 pm »
It shows you how dense Duroz is.....

God just creates the universe in perfect order and HE cant create an ark that will hold animals?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cant help comment on those that dont have any discernment.But i am wasting my time replying to that cos he cant discern in the first place what the hec i am talking about.

He just enjoys putting up his dumb posters and thinking hes back in kindergarten.

 :thumbsup:

As if that logic can't be turned on it's head.An entire universe can be formed from nothing (Boy are we lucky for that one in 1,000,000 chance!),life can begin and magically transform from fish to reptile to bird to monkey to man-----but God can't bring 2 of each animal into the ark!LOL Whose to say how many animals even existed back then?
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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #506 on: October 04, 2012, 08:58:16 pm »
It shows you how dense Duroz is.....
God just creates the universe in perfect order and HE cant create an ark that will hold animals?

On the contrary, such unsupported religious claims you continually barf-up keep showing your lack of intelligence.  Once again, there's no credible evidence that "g-d" created the universe, (as those are two unsubstantiated religious beliefs).  Another unsubstantiated religious belief is that 'Noah built an ark to hold thousands of animals, plants and insects', or worse, that "g-d" created that ark).

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Indeed, I laughed too at such specious religious presumptions.

I cant help comment on those that dont have any discernment.

Since you're referring to yourself, couldn't you just mumble incoherently to yourself instead of posting such inanities here?

But i am wasting my time replying to that cos he cant discern in the first place what the hec i am talking about.

I can discern that you're posting irrational, faith-based, non-evidence supported nonsense and "duroz" is likely capable of discerning that as well.

He just enjoys putting up his dumb posters and thinking hes back in kindergarten.

Actually, I doubt she enjoys putting up with dumb posters who spout religious blind faith induced delusions.
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Re: Daily bible inverse
« Reply #507 on: October 04, 2012, 09:03:47 pm »
I also said in response to Falconer that they are archived and can be retrieved from there.  That is if you are really motivated and interested enough to do so.

I may get around to punching "intelligent design" into FC's search engine later however, I have an 'intuition' that no evidence will arise out of such a search because if there were any, you'd present it now.
 
You don't accept anything anyway, and I don't have the time to repeat every little thing that has already been posted.  

If you mean to say that I don't accept faith-based non-evidentiary crap as evidence, you'd be correct.  Evidence is neither hearsay nor dependent upon religious belief.  If you want to know what unambiguous evidence consists of, you could look up examples yourself.  I don't have time to repeat posted definitions or serve them to you on silver platters.
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Re: Daily Bible Verse
« Reply #508 on: October 04, 2012, 09:08:13 pm »
*ANOTHER*

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DAILY

Bible Verse Thread ? ? ? ?

What? You couldn't FIND the other "Daily Bible Verse Thread"(s).......? ? ?[/i]

Apparently not; unless the actual agenda is proselytizing religious propaganda, (despite specious contentions to the contrary).  Ostensibly, it's not specifically against FC ToS to 'spam' the off-topic forum with such therefore, it's tacitly alright to post counter-viewpoints to them.

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Re: Daily Bible Verse
« Reply #509 on: October 04, 2012, 09:10:21 pm »
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You have proven nothing to me as far as your views supporting creating the heavens and earth as being more provable than God creating them.  There is an Intelligent Design, of which I've spoken with you about, before, that is way more acceptable, provable, and we have agreed to disagree on this subject.  I will not accept the Evolution way of creation and you will not accept Intelligent Design.  We will go completely in circles again, and they are in the archives, anyway.  

All of your 'proofs' were thwarted numerous times with earth science 101. Here you admit to favoring magical tales from ancient times and pseudoscience (ID-- like you said, check the archives as it is has been easily debunked and is a clever lie) without acknowledging how the world actually works. You have every right to believe what you believe, but this behavior is 'raw' ignorance of reality.

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An entire universe can be formed from nothing

Incorrect. This is not what atheists say. This is what a nihilist would most likely say. Major difference. Atheist's will have theories, speculations, or just a plain "I don't know" because stating that you do know how the universe was created would be childish arrogance.

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life can begin and magically transform from fish to reptile to bird to monkey to man

Magic? No. That is obviously reserved for your beliefs. Though your overgeneralization has an extremely vague truth to it, this happens through natural means over billions of years via macroev....you know what? I'm trying to educate a mentally deficient person. Never mind all that evil science. Your ancient god did it. Oh, the world is flat too.

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God just creates the universe in perfect order and HE cant create an ark that will hold animals?

That story is pure mythology and makes no sense on a natural level.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_myth Your logic here is damaged since you're leaving out various problems. Like each animal needs to be in it's proper biome and it must have a proper diet. If you think 8 people can do this for 100,000+ species and weigh that against, say, the san diego wild animal park which has 3,000 animals and 500 employees...something isn't right with the logic you're applying.

And you do know our universe and planet are far from perfect, right?
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