Daily Bible Verse

[jcribb16]

... I can just turn them around and give them back to you to chew on?  

You haven't managed to do so as yet.  Merely claiming to have done so isn't the same as actually accomplishing it.  This is perhaps too subtle a difference for someone mind-blinded by "faith" in lieu of reason.

"Religion is the masterpiece of the art of animal training, for it trains people as to how they shall think."
-- Arthur Schopenhauer

Unless they are truth, there is no need to accept them on my end.  Your little "subtle" comment is an assessment that is also not accepted since it's not based on truth.  

How is your failure to provide evidence supporting your claims 'not true'?  Your self-delusions run too deep for reason to drill to that depth.

Your "self-delusions" comment is only an assessment, not verifiable by fact.  You have the keen desire to always peg some posters who disagree with you, as lower intelligence than you, including being "delusional" and "irrational."   Since they are just your opinions and assessments, they do not have to be accepted as truth, won't be accepted as truth, and perhaps you should take some time to really search deep inside your own self for your own "self-delusions" that you are unwilling to admit to. 

[falcon9]

Unless they are truth, there is no need to accept them on my end.  

How is your failure to provide evidence supporting your claims 'not true'?  Your self-delusions run too deep for reason to drill to that depth.

Your "self-delusions" comment is only an assessment, not verifiable by fact. 

The assessment was made on the basis of reasoning since no substantive evidence to support the specious religious claims you made has been presented.  Therefore, such claims/religious beliefs are self-delusional, (not having a factual basis).

You have the keen desire to always peg some posters who disagree with you, as lower intelligence than you, including being "delusional" and "irrational." 

No, irrational and delusional positions are regarded as such, nothing was stated about the lack of "intelligence" of those holding irrational/self-delusional religious beliefs, (since that seems to be an inherent aspect of religious adherence). 


“Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites.”
-– Thomas Jefferson

[jcribb16]

Unless they are truth, there is no need to accept them on my end.  

How is your failure to provide evidence supporting your claims 'not true'?  Your self-delusions run too deep for reason to drill to that depth.

Your "self-delusions" comment is only an assessment, not verifiable by fact. 

The assessment was made on the basis of reasoning since no substantive evidence to support the specious religious claims you made has been presented.  Therefore, such claims/religious beliefs are self-delusional, (not having a factual basis).

You have the keen desire to always peg some posters who disagree with you, as lower intelligence than you, including being "delusional" and "irrational." 

No, irrational and delusional positions are regarded as such, nothing was stated about the lack of "intelligence" of those holding irrational/self-delusional religious beliefs, (since that seems to be an inherent aspect of religious adherence). 


“Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites.”
-– Thomas Jefferson

It is the tone which you radiate through your words and attitude that give that impression.  The fun of debating, sadly, is lost in this very representation of those types of posts.

[SherylsShado]

Rev 21: 7-8  He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

[falcon9]

It is the tone which you radiate through your words and attitude that give that impression.  The fun of debating, sadly, is lost in this very representation of those types of posts.

Well hel, if we're going to misattribute posts to whatever subjective "tone" we want to, then your "tone" is one of a religious fundie who selectively skims replies and doesn't respond to prior refutations of her nonsense but, keeps repeating her religious fundamentalism.  That's just a perceived "tone", mind you ...

[momoney555]

Bible Verse of the Day:


Only fools say in their heart, "There is no God."  They are corrupt and their actions are evil; no one does good.

                                                              Psalm 14:1

[falcon9]

Only fools say in their heart, "There is no God."  They are corrupt and their actions are evil; no one does good.

                                                              Psalm 14:1

That's a self-serving, circular load of nonsense.  If religious adherents are clinging to their blind faith, they can either support their claims that
"g-d exists" with evidence or, just with the blind faith, (which is a lack of evidence).

[Abrupt]

Only fools say in their heart, "There is no God."  They are corrupt and their actions are evil; no one does good.

                                                              Psalm 14:1

That's a self-serving, circular load of nonsense.  If religious adherents are clinging to their blind faith, they can either support their claims that
"g-d exists" with evidence or, just with the blind faith, (which is a lack of evidence).

Knowing does not require provable evidence.  One can know something and yet remain quite incapable of proving it.  This is even demonstrated and accepted within our court systems  and includes, but is not limited to "reasonable doubt".  We all have emotions (well there are some few exceptions but they are rare and stem from brain damage) and not one of us can prove these emotions to anyone else.  Every single one of us has likely been fooled by a proclamation of an emotion of another or by our attempt to interpret an emotional state of another.  There isn't even a common stimuli that instigates these emotions among us all.  They exist though and we all know them to; and we all know well the force inherent within them -- to prove them is another story.

It seems to me that the ones with the greatest doubts, such as you display, are the ones that lack any ability to discern.  You have been fooled so many times that you have no confidence in your own capabilities of interpretation that you require the most stringent of evidence before you can realize something (but actually this isn't quite true in your case as I have seen you display confirmation bias when something was agreeable to you -- so it is partly this and partly bias/prejudice).

[youngxcosmic]

1 Thessalonians 5:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.

[falcon9]

Knowing does not require provable evidence.  One can know something and yet remain quite incapable of proving it.

The only way to discern the difference between what someone believes they "know", (faith-sans-evidence), and what they actually know relies upon the concept of "noesis", not 'empty belief'.  In other words, claiming to "know" something without demonstrable evidence of knowing is merely an unsupported claim. 

This is even demonstrated and accepted within our court systems  and includes, but is not limited to "reasonable doubt".  

There is more than enough sufficient cause for "reasonable doubt" concerning specious religious beliefs, (those which rely upon blind faith instead of evidence and use "faith" to justify a "belief" in an endlessly circular and irrational manner).  Applied to religious beliefs, reasonable doubt comes into play because no substantive evidence has been presented to support such claims.  Therefore, religious claims which rest entirely upon "faith/belief" and untenable random attributions of supernatural causes remain empty claims and merely invalid 'religious opinion'.

[jcribb16]

1 Thessalonians 5:11
New International Version (NIV)
11 Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.

[constance312003]

Be still and know that I am God

[falcon9]

Be still and know that I am God

That's quite a claim - got any actual evidence to back it up?

"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."
-- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758

[darrell1960]

1 Corinthians 13 1 The Love Chapter

[falcon9]

Rev 21: 7-8 
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

"Sorcerers", as in "not suffering a witch to live"?  The intolerant specious beliefs of the xtian religion reveals itself in that 'verse', (especially within the hypocrisy of xtianity being the liars and cultural thieves which historical evidence exposes).

"If you take [a copy of] the xtian Bible and put it out in the wind and the rain, soon the paper on which the words are printed will disintegrate and the words will be gone. Our 'bible' IS the wind and the rain."
-- from Herbalist Carol McGrath as told to her by a Native American woman