Obama and his stand on gay marriage

[sigmapi1501]

Why aren't tattoos illegal?  Is it because we are a smart enough society to know that we need not govern ourselves based solely on the words of A BOOK?

Mein Kampf is a book too.  If one is not a neo-national-socialist, why would they follow the beliefs expressed in it?  Now apply that concept to inerrant-bible believers for consideration.

-[n.a.z.i. got *bleeped* as inappropriate and yet 'faith' gets a pass ... that's hilarious]-

Bible thumper rationale....
The stuff I don't want to do anymore is outdated and only written for that time's culture. But the stuff I wanna use the bible as an excuse to hate is sacred and timeless

[falcon9]

Bible thumper rationale....
The stuff I don't want to do anymore is outdated and only written for that time's culture. But the stuff I wanna use the bible as an excuse to hate is sacred and timeless

Now convince one of them to admit to that bit of honesty, keeping in mind that "rationale" is not rational reasoning.

   *crickets chirping*

[loriecampbell]

Right wing, left wing....same bird         

[JediJohnnie]

    :male:I have never found a place in the bible where we are told to judge how others live their lives or that says no gay marraige.  If you don't like gay marriage, then don't marry a gay person, but we should not be denying an entire group of people basic civil rights.

Honestly,have you ever read the Bible?

Leviticus 18:22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."

Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.  In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."

Jude 1:7 "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."

Do I really need to go on?

You CAN'T "go on" because that is all there is in the entire Bible pertaining to Homosexuality. Yet, some clueless folk that know nothing of true Christianity get up in arms. Where is the outrage and protest in front of tattoo parlors???

1 Timothy 8-11 "We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.  We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,  for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine  that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me. "

Leviticus 20 13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

As you can see I COULD go on.The point isn't how many times it's said.Even if God had only said it once it would be reason enough to take notice.But it's impossible for anyone to say God hasn't forbidden the practice in the strongest terms possible.

Why aren't tattoos illegal?  Is it because we are a smart enough society to know that we need not govern ourselves based solely on the words of A BOOK?

The verse you're referring to (Leviticus 19:28 “‘Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the Lord.") was-in context-about God forbidding the people of Israel from following the funeral rites of the pagan nations around them.It was not an express command against the practice of tattooing in general.Apples & Oranges.

[sgluckadoo]

I hate how he is being put on a pedestal for this when he obviously is just trying to get a vote! Regardless of how one feels about gay marriage, shouldnt it be pretty obvious that he is just saying what he thinks will get him the vote? and, what does that say about him?

[JediJohnnie]

Why aren't tattoos illegal?  Is it because we are a smart enough society to know that we need not govern ourselves based solely on the words of A BOOK?

Mein Kampf is a book too.  If one is not a neo-national-socialist, why would they follow the beliefs expressed in it?  Now apply that concept to inerrant-bible believers for consideration.

-[n.a.z.i. got *bleeped* as inappropriate and yet 'faith' gets a pass ... that's hilarious]-

Bible thumper rationale....
The stuff I don't want to do anymore is outdated and only written for that time's culture. But the stuff I wanna use the bible as an excuse to hate is sacred and timeless

How is that out dated?God still doesn't want people to follow pagen funeral rites.....

[wpolly]

Obama couldnt tell the truth if it was right in front of him he will do anything to try to win this election the country means nothing but if there is an opportunity to campaign on our money he will do it

[falcon9]

God still doesn't want people to follow pagen funeral rites.....

And you know this, how?  Btw, it's "pagan" funeral rites - like those which were around for tens of thousands of years before xtianity's equally 'religious' funerary rituals.

[bigfoot951]

Everything he does is just in an attempt to get votes.  He's not even doing a good job in that regard much less in any other regard.  The one thing about him changing his stance on any issue is that we can't trust anything he has ever said.  So why would we trust him when changes his stance?

[falcon9]

Everything he does is just in an attempt to get votes.  He's not even doing a good job in that regard much less in any other regard.  The one thing about him changing his stance on any issue is that we can't trust anything he has ever said.  So why would we trust him when changes his stance?

Why trust any politician who does the same, (and since they all do, aren't the questions rhetorical)?

[sgerman]

I totally agree with you. His decision was only a ploy in his election strategy

[bretay]

I agree it's politics.I do not personally believe in gay marriage.And I understand everyone should be with someone they love.But I do not think we were put here to be with the same sex.I do agree it will backfire on him.I hope he does't get it anyway.

[Tresbn00]

I don't believe that President Barack Obama changed his views to get more votes.  He doesn't need the votes because he has little to no competition worries.  The Republicans have ruined Mit Romney's chance by trying to get a gaggle of incompetents put in to place ahead of him and still can't put the full strength of their vote behind Romney(most likely because of his religious preference). If anything, Obama, may have decreased the net vote count because of the number of people who will back away from him exceeding the number of votes that he would get from the gay population. Gay is not my way but I believe that people who are gay have the right to have their say.

[tashamjoy]

I support this you should be able to be with whoever u want u cant help how you love? And its a bold move with elections coming up we will see how it goes but at the end of the day I think its a good thing to support!!!

[vickysue]

I don't believe in the gay marriage bit. But if it should get passed then they should be taxed the same way we as married couples do. Please don't cram this down my throat. And don't expect me to pay for aids if they get it. God help us all.