41 American Indian Tribes Settle for $1Billion with Obama Administration

[walksalone11]

also I am not a member of the class action, but if I were, and won.....I wouldn't care where the money came from.

[falcon9]

also I am not a member of the class action, but if I were, and won.....I wouldn't care where the money came from.

Of course not however, some might care if it came from more deficit spending, (or out of other programs which they do benefit from).

[walksalone11]

also I am not a member of the class action, but if I were, and won.....I wouldn't care where the money came from.

Of course not however, some might care if it came from more deficit spending, (or out of other programs which they do benefit from).

Yeah, I guess it would suck if that money came but as a result IHS or those cool commod programs were given a final lethal blow. These types of programs have always taken among the first hits when budget cuts were/are mandated.

[falcon9]

I'm not really a scholar on the details of Cobell as I was always more of an "in the trenches" kind of guy, not much on spending mind numbing hours studying legal language etc.

In most cases I guess it's always been pretty much a case of rob peter to pay paul as I suspect this would turn out being. Besides.....you know the gov. just prints all the money it wants to. Damn the economy.

I'm pretty much against anything that adds to deficit spending on general principles.  Although I'm aware that there are many programs for which funding is needed, just because something is needed doesn't mean that there are funds available to pay for it.  

Printing more money would increase inflation, with all the attendant economic problems that would inflict on an already weakened economy.  

[SherylsShado]

Here's a pretty informative site addressing that, but I suspect some of the information will be edited soon to reflect the results of Obamas deal.

It isn't a done deal until the money is paid out.  Where exactly are such funds to come from?

 Rumor has it obama is going to 'pass' on some of those vacations for the payout...NOT!   

[Statistics published by The Blaze note the Obama vacation to Hawaii last year cost approximately $4 million. Before the family trip to Hawaii, the Obama's had already spent $10 million dollars of taxpayer money traveling to Vail, Colo.; Martha's Vineyard, Mass.; and Spain. http://news.yahoo.com/president-obamas-lavish-vacations-under-scrutiny-again-153900010.html]

[vickysue]

How many of you have been around some of the resavations? I can tell you right now most of those that are shown  on that list have gambling casinos and are drawing in a lot more money then we will ever see. even here in N.M. there are already 7-8  gambling  casinos in this low income state. All it is for is votes. The govt. has provided them with a lot of money over the last 100 years. i applied for a dental assistant job on the res. at one time and made 99. on my test and they gave the job to an indian who could barely pass the test even with giving her 10 points for being a native american. Pluse being a navtive born New Mexican. What a joke.     

[falcon9]

Rumor has it obama is going to 'pass' on some of those vacations for the payout...NOT!  

I'm pretty sure that not even the most lavish presidential vacation funds would cover the $1.1 billion settlement proposed.

[Statistics published by The Blaze note the Obama vacation to Hawaii last year cost approximately $4 million. Before the family trip to Hawaii, the Obama's had already spent $10 million dollars of taxpayer money traveling to Vail, Colo.; Martha's Vineyard, Mass.; and Spain. http://news.yahoo.com/president-obamas-lavish-vacations-under-scrutiny-again-153900010.html]

Yeah, no doubt he's not the first president to take expensive vacations, (you should see the records on the crap some first ladies have blown enormous sums on before too), and he's unlikely to be the last.  I wonder if anyone has ever added up the cost of these presidential 'perks' in toto?

[falcon9]

How many of you have been around some of the resavations? I can tell you right now most of those that are shown  on that list have gambling casinos and are drawing in a lot more money then we will ever see. even here in N.M. there are already 7-8  gambling  casinos in this low income state. All it is for is votes. The govt. has provided them with a lot of money over the last 100 years. i applied for a dental assistant job on the res. at one time and made 99. on my test and they gave the job to an indian who could barely pass the test even with giving her 10 points for being a native american. Pluse being a navtive born New Mexican. What a joke.     

I've been a visitor on several reservations and while not all of them have casinos or other obvious revenue streams, (you can't always 'see' the government subsidies), many of them do.  Of the ones on the list of 'beneficiaries', no less than half, (20), are listed as operating casinos, (there could be more, I haven't checked every single listed tribe).

[fc2]

Be nice to have some land given back to me, but with the assimilation process going the way it is. I'd probably lose all the land right back to the dominant society in some form or other. LOL

[falcon9]

Be nice to have some land given back to me, but with the assimilation process going the way it is. I'd probably lose all the land right back to the dominant society in some form or other. LOL

You'd not only have to already be on the tribal roles of one of the recognised tribes on the list of litigation claimants, you'd already would've had your hand out for more hand-outs.  Are you getting the government cheese yet?

[fc2]

Be nice to have some land given back to me, but with the assimilation process going the way it is. I'd probably lose all the land right back to the dominant society in some form or other. LOL

You'd not only have to already be on the tribal roles of one of the recognised tribes on the list of litigation claimants, you'd already would've had your hand out for more hand-outs.  Are you getting the government cheese yet?

I used to get gov.t cheese, but even thats been taken away from me LOL  Kind of reminds me of that Clint Eastwood movie 'Pink Cadillac'. Clint's character states, "its a sad thing when a white man can't even stand up for himself in America", as he attempts to appease a bar room full of Nazis playing pool. LOl

[walksalone11]

How many of you have been around some of the resavations? I can tell you right now most of those that are shown  on that list have gambling casinos and are drawing in a lot more money then we will ever see. even here in N.M. there are already 7-8  gambling  casinos in this low income state. All it is for is votes. The govt. has provided them with a lot of money over the last 100 years. i applied for a dental assistant job on the res. at one time and made 99. on my test and they gave the job to an indian who could barely pass the test even with giving her 10 points for being a native american. Pluse being a navtive born New Mexican. What a joke.     

I also live in N.M. just outside of Taos. Yes I have spent a great deal of my life on the Rez. I know all about it. Do you have any idea of how big a percentage of the casino incomes go out to the state?
As for your gripe about not getting the job, to start with any federal recognized tribe, which would include all the Pueblos around here, are sovereign unto them selves. Which means, they are not a part of the U.S. let anlone the state. Being a life long resident of the state is nothing like being a resident of the Pueblo.
They gave her 10 points, eh? I'd have given her 100 so long as she qualified for the position.

[walksalone11]

Be nice to have some land given back to me, but with the assimilation process going the way it is. I'd probably lose all the land right back to the dominant society in some form or other. LOL

Perhaps.

I have a friend from the Yankton Rez who was telling me recently that altho she has use of an allotment, which is rightfully due her, she will never have an inch of land in her name. Therefor, at the whim of powers that be, it could be snatched from her at any time. Believe me...it happens....alot.

[torps58]

I have no problem with some sort or retribution given to the Indian tribes of our country. However, I thought that we already did this thru tax breaks. The Indians that are here now are not the ones that suffered many years ago so this settlement is bogus to me.

[walksalone11]

I have no problem with some sort or retribution given to the Indian tribes of our country. However, I thought that we already did this thru tax breaks. The Indians that are here now are not the ones that suffered many years ago so this settlement is bogus to me.

Don't kid yourself into thinking that todays Indigenous, are not still suffering in many of the same ways they have for the past 520 years. Educate yourself. As stated in a previous post, any federally recognized tribal group, are sovereign, there for, although of this continent, they are not of your country. Yes, we have duel citizenship, but the vast majority of us, identify with our Nations, not yours. Please don't mistake me for any kind of patriotic American.