Genesis 4:25-26 (The Living Bible)

[joannaingram84]

Later on Eve gave birth to another son and named him Seth (meaning "Granted");for, as Eve put it, "God has granted me another son for the one Cain killed." When Seth grew up, he had a son and named him Enosh. Itwas during his lifetime that men first began to call themselves "the Lord's people."

[raven1114]

ok and? was there a reason for posting this or just because?

[falcon9]

ok and? was there a reason for posting this or just because?

Given numerous previous and similar posts, one guess is that the poster is attempting to requote the entire "living bible", (i.e., evangelize).  Although such qualifies as "off topic", there are no restrictions from commenting on such evangelicism.  My comment would be that, according to these 'begets', somebody was having sex with immediate family members.

[raven1114]

ok and? was there a reason for posting this or just because?

Given numerous previous and similar posts, one guess is that the poster is attempting to requote the entire "living bible", (i.e., evangelize).  Although such qualifies as "off topic", there are no restrictions from commenting on such evangelicism.  My comment would be that, according to these 'begets', somebody was having sex with immediate family members.

What I'd like to know is where did the woman whom Cain married come from? I mean if Adam and eve were the first people and they had Cain and Able and any daughters after that would of been younger than Cain and Able. Well when Cain goes to the land of Nod and takes a wife where did she and the other Nod people come from? Woman back then didn't just pack up and move out of mom and dad's house unless they were married or going to live with an another male relative.

[falcon9]

What I'd like to know is where did the woman whom Cain married come from? I mean if Adam and eve were the first people and they had Cain and Able and any daughters after that would of been younger than Cain and Able. Well when Cain goes to the land of Nod and takes a wife where did she and the other Nod people come from? Woman back then didn't just pack up and move out of mom and dad's house unless they were married or going to live with an another male relative.

Some biblical "scholars" like to speculate that the folks not mentioned in all that 'begetting' were either "also directly created by jahwey, like Adam & Eve" supposedly were but, were omitted by the semi-literates who scribbled "genesis", (and didn't know there were other people around who lived further away).  Such a limited and separated gene pools would have resulted in massive genetic abnormalities in the subsequent population, (despite biblical prohibitions against "laying with family members", it is only an unverifiable assumption that 'jahwey' had separately created a bunch of other people who were unmentioned as such).  Instead of consistancy, we get specious speculations of religious adherents.

[JediJohnnie]

When you consider that Adam lived 930 years,there was ample time for the world to have been populated when Cain found a wife.

[jcribb16]

http://www.gotquestions.org/Cains-wife.html

Question: "Who was Cain's wife? Was Cain's wife his sister?"

Answer: The Bible does not specifically say who Cain’s wife was. The only possible answer is that Cain's wife was his sister or niece or great-niece, etc. The Bible does not say how old Cain was when he killed Abel (Genesis 4:Eight (. Since they were both farmers, they were likely both full-grown adults, possibly with families of their own. Adam and Eve surely had given birth to more children than just Cain and Abel at the time Abel was killed. They definitely had many more children later (Genesis 5:4). The fact that Cain was scared for his own life after he killed Abel (Genesis 4:14) indicates that there were likely many other children and perhaps even grandchildren of Adam and Eve already living at that time. Cain's wife (Genesis 4:17) was a daughter or granddaughter of Adam and Eve.

Since Adam and Eve were the first (and only) human beings, their children would have no other choice than to intermarry. God did not forbid inter-family marriage until much later when there were enough people to make intermarriage unnecessary (Leviticus 18:6-18). The reason that incest today often results in genetic abnormalities is that when two people of similar genetics (i.e., a brother and sister) have children together, there is a high risk of their recessive characteristics becoming dominant. When people from different families have children, it is highly unlikely that both parents will carry the same recessive traits. The human genetic code has become increasingly “polluted” over the centuries as genetic defects are multiplied, amplified, and passed down from generation to generation. Adam and Eve did not have any genetic defects, and that enabled them and the first few generations of their descendants to have a far greater quality of health than we do now. Adam and Eve’s children had few, if any, genetic defects. As a result, it was safe for them to intermarry.

[JediJohnnie]

Well done as usual,Jcribb16.

[falcon9]

When you consider that Adam lived 930 years,there was ample time for the world to have been populated when Cain found a wife.

When one considers that there is no evidence for such a claim, (other than from a dubious and unreliable source), the inbreeding remains.

[falcon9]

http://www.gotquestions.org/Cains-wife.html

That's a biased, 'apologetic' religious site, full of faith-based speculations, (as can be shown below):

"The Bible does not specifically say who Cain’s wife was. The only possible answer is that Cain's wife was his sister or niece or great-niece, etc."

In other words, a concession that family members had interbreed precedes speculative claims to 'excuse' such interbreeding.

"The fact that Cain was scared for his own life after he killed Abel indicates that there were likely many other children and perhaps even grandchildren of Adam and Eve already living at that time. Cain's wife was a daughter or granddaughter of Adam and Eve.  Since Adam and Eve were the first (and only) human beings, their children would have no other choice than to intermarry."

So, the point about interbreeding is not being disputed. Moving on to the 'excuses' then ...

"God did not forbid inter-family marriage until much later when there were enough people to make intermarriage unnecessary."

"Unnecessary"?  At this point, speculative and irrational 'rationalizations' come into play.
 

"The reason that incest today often results in genetic abnormalities is that when two people of similar genetics (i.e., a brother and sister) have children together, there is a high risk of their recessive characteristics becoming dominant."

Just so and because precisely that inter-marriage/inbreeding was conceded, such recessive genetic characteristics would soon arise in the 'extended family'.

"When people from different families have children, it is highly unlikely that both parents will carry the same recessive traits."

The population described did not consist of "people from different families" however.  It alledgedly arose from the _same_ family, (whose gentic codes would have carried both recessive and dominate genes).

"The human genetic code has become increasingly “polluted” over the centuries as genetic defects are multiplied, amplified, and passed down from generation to generation."

That would be as a result of initial inbreeding, combined with genetic mutations caused by environmental radiation.

"Adam and Eve did not have any genetic defects, and that enabled them and the first few generations of their descendants to have a far greater quality of health than we do now."

Such a claim is entirely speculative and is a 'faith-based' one which presumes 'perfect creation' within the theory of 'creationism'.  There is no evidence to support such creationist claims. 

"Adam and Eve’s children had few, if any, genetic defects. As a result, it was safe for them to intermarry."

You can have it both ways though.  Either the interbred offspring had no genetic defects, (and therefore, passed none on to the extended family they were breeding), or such later genetic "pollution" occurred as a result of such inbreeding, (combined with background radiation?).  This means that any resulting genetic defects observed later took awhile to be attributed to breeding with immediate family members, (a practice which would have ceased without any prohibitions from hypothetical supernatural decrees due entirely to 'trial and error').

[raven1114]

What I'd like to know is where did the woman whom Cain married come from? I mean if Adam and eve were the first people and they had Cain and Able and any daughters after that would of been younger than Cain and Able. Well when Cain goes to the land of Nod and takes a wife where did she and the other Nod people come from? Woman back then didn't just pack up and move out of mom and dad's house unless they were married or going to live with an another male relative.

Some biblical "scholars" like to speculate that the folks not mentioned in all that 'begetting' were either "also directly created by jahwey, like Adam & Eve" supposedly were but, were omitted by the semi-literates who scribbled "genesis", (and didn't know there were other people around who lived further away).  Such a limited and separated gene pools would have resulted in massive genetic abnormalities in the subsequent population, (despite biblical prohibitions against "laying with family members", it is only an unverifiable assumption that 'jahwey' had separately created a bunch of other people who were unmentioned as such).  Instead of consistancy, we get specious speculations of religious adherents.

In other words they have no clue, but instead of admitting they have no clue they just make *bleep* up.

[falcon9]

In other words they have no clue, but instead of admitting they have no clue they just make *bleep* up.

Even worse, the majority of their religious mythologies were lifted, (ripped-off and altered slightly), from much older previous religions.  The early hebrews seemed eager to swipe religious concepts from the Aeyptians and Hyksos, (Horus the Younger became "jesus", with modifications and Set became Satan - 'Set-hen', etc.).  If they tried pulling such cultural thefts today, it'd be out and out plagiarism, (which it was, because they apparently couldn't come up with their own mythology).

[jcribb16]

Well done as usual,Jcribb16.

Thank you, JediJohnnie!

[JediJohnnie]

What I'd like to know is where did the woman whom Cain married come from? I mean if Adam and eve were the first people and they had Cain and Able and any daughters after that would of been younger than Cain and Able. Well when Cain goes to the land of Nod and takes a wife where did she and the other Nod people come from? Woman back then didn't just pack up and move out of mom and dad's house unless they were married or going to live with an another male relative.

Some biblical "scholars" like to speculate that the folks not mentioned in all that 'begetting' were either "also directly created by jahwey, like Adam & Eve" supposedly were but, were omitted by the semi-literates who scribbled "genesis", (and didn't know there were other people around who lived further away).  Such a limited and separated gene pools would have resulted in massive genetic abnormalities in the subsequent population, (despite biblical prohibitions against "laying with family members", it is only an unverifiable assumption that 'jahwey' had separately created a bunch of other people who were unmentioned as such).  Instead of consistancy, we get specious speculations of religious adherents.

In other words they have no clue, but instead of admitting they have no clue they just make *bleep* up.

You were given a very credible and detailed explanation.The fact that there is such a credible and detailed answer is what seems to have disappointed you.

[healthfreedom]

It is interesting to note that Gopd never stop presenting himself in the affairs of men. He is a loving crerator who never forgot his promise to Adam and Eve that he would raise up a godly line through the blessed seed (Jesus Christ) would come.