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bigfoot951

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2012, 03:22:22 pm »
Some people are just threatened by people that aren't like them or don't agree with them.  Doesn't make sense but it is what it is.  Also some people are just jerks.  I don't think we should ever ignore that fact when asking questions like this.

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2012, 03:30:12 pm »
I dont understand it either. I have adjusted to the fact that some people aren't happy unless they make others as miserable as they are.

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2012, 06:01:26 pm »
They are critical because it makes them feel better when they put others down.  They are bitter because their life is miserbale, so being critical gives them a little jolt of excitement.

Alternatively, being critical of the unsupported assertions of others often leads to a more accurate assessment of a given situation/premise.  By challenging the validity of a premise, it can often be discerned whetherr or not that premise is accurate.  If it is a false premise, the one presenting it may react with resentment and a feeling of being "put down", (such emotional responses are common however, have nothing to do with the content of the premise refuted).  Quite often, those who dislike having their unsubstantiated 'opinions' challenged will attack the challenger of those assertions, rather than support their own assertions, (by speculating that the challenger is "bitter", "miserable" or gets some sort of "jolt of excitement" from challenging empty opinions).
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2012, 06:34:06 pm »
Huh? :dontknow:  I need to pray for a little clarity to try to follow that one.

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2012, 07:05:46 pm »
Huh? :dontknow:  I need to pray for a little clarity to try to follow that one.

It basically boils down to the hypocrisy of criticizing others for criticizing others.  Criticism involves judgements, (which may or may not be accurate - e.g., substantiated or, merely baseless opinion).  Everyone judges, despite claims to the contrary. 

As an aside, it's humorous to 'pray' for clarity if a resolution was attributed to a supernatural answer.
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2012, 02:49:51 am »
Do not judge anyone, because remember you are being judged too.  It is not our place to judge anyone.  Someday we all have to answer for our actions and not in this life.
Accept everyone no matter what skin color, sexual preference, male/female, what country they were born, what beliefs they have.  It is not our place to say who is right and who is wrong.  Not everyone believes in the samething, but who makes the decisions that you are wrong and I am right or vise versa. 
I accept and respect everyone's choice and belief and hope they do the same for me.
Do unto others as you would want them to do unto you.

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2012, 02:54:03 am »
Do not judge anyone, because remember you are being judged too.  It is not our place to judge anyone.

By criticizing people who judge others, you are judging them, (for judging others).  This criticism constitutes a judgement of your judgement.
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2012, 06:37:02 am »
If you were not fanatical, you wouldn't attack every person who requests prayers, or every post which mentions any belief in religion.
Have NOT ever seen this....HAVE seen falcon9 make a lot of posts questioning comments/statements made by others, but never anything that would be considered an attack on either the person OR the post

It is unreasonable and ignorant to spout off your atheism and disbelief in a thread where someone is asking for prayers.
No it's neither unreasonable or ignorant to post your personal beliefs/disbelief....it's called voicing an opinion.

Even if you don't believe in the power of prayer, other people do, and it is not your place to insult them for their beliefs. Your hatred of people's belief in God is thus made evident.
Again, I have NOT seen falcon9 "insult" people for their beliefs. I've seen falcon9 question what others have posted, or ask them if they have proof to back up their statements, or point out why something is not a proven fact.......
but that's not what I would call insulting a person. And I don't see this as "hatred of people's beliefs", either.....if falcon9 questions what they have said, or states an opposite belief, OR states disbelief........HOW do you construe this as showing HATRED??

.....but stop attacking everybody who does believe in God.
Again, I have never seen anything posted by falcon9 I would call "attacking" anyone.
I think you have rather distorted ideas on what constitutes an attack or an insult, and what hatred really is.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2012, 06:54:05 am by duroz »
                    
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2012, 01:12:15 pm »
If you were not fanatical, you wouldn't attack every person who requests prayers, or every post which mentions any belief in religion.

Have NOT ever seen this....HAVE seen falcon9 make a lot of posts questioning comments/statements made by others, but never anything that would be considered an attack on either the person OR the post.

It is unreasonable and ignorant to spout off your atheism and disbelief in a thread where someone is asking for prayers.

No it's neither unreasonable or ignorant to post your personal beliefs/disbelief....it's called voicing an opinion.

Even if you don't believe in the power of prayer, other people do, and it is not your place to insult them for their beliefs. Your hatred of people's belief in God is thus made evident.

Again, I have NOT seen falcon9 "insult" people for their beliefs. I've seen falcon9 question what others have posted, or ask them if they have proof to back up their statements, or point out why something is not a proven fact.......
but that's not what I would call insulting a person. And I don't see this as "hatred of people's beliefs", either.....if falcon9 questions what they have said, or states an opposite belief, OR states disbelief........HOW do you construe this as showing HATRED??


.....but stop attacking everybody who does believe in God.

Again, I have never seen anything posted by falcon9 I would call "attacking" anyone.
I think you have rather distorted ideas on what constitutes an attack or an insult, and what hatred really is.

Very perceptively and succinctly put, duroz.  Not only do your observations describe the situation accurately but, they emphasize how some people consider that questioning anything is inaccurately perceived as an "attack", "hatred" or "insult", (which inherently reveals the 'belief' that such things cannot be questioned and must be taken on blind faith instead).  Hypocritically, their 'attacks' upon reason and discernment of irrationality are somehow not "insults" and "hatred" of reasoning and rationality.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2012, 01:14:12 pm by falcon9 »
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2012, 02:46:13 pm »
Critical people are unhappy people who are not happy until they make other people unhappy along with them.  I have a story you might want to use.

The Law of the Garbage Truck !
One day I hopped in a taxi and we took off for the airport. We were driving in the right lane when suddenly a black car jumped out of a parking space right in front of us.
My taxi driver slammed on his breaks, skidded, and missed the other car by just inches! The driver of the other car whipped his head around and started yelling at us. My taxi driver just smiled and waved at the guy. And I mean, he was really friendly.
So I asked, 'Why did you just do that? This guy almost ruined your car and sent us to the hospital!' This is when my taxi driver taught me what I now call, 'The Law of the Garbage Truck.'
He explained that many people are like garbage trucks. They run around full of garbage, full of frustration, full of anger, and full of disappointment. As their garbage piles up, they need a place to dump it and sometimes they'll dump it on you.
Don't take it personally. Just smile, wave, wish them well, and move on. Don't take their garbage and spread it to other people at work, at home or on the streets.
The bottom line is that successful people do not let garbage trucks take over their day. Life's too short to wake up in the morning with regrets, so..... 'Love the people who treat you right.. Pray for the ones who don't.'
Life is ten percent what you make it and ninety percent how you take it.
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Thank you for sharing this - it's a great objective way to look at something like this issue of why some are so critical of others. :)

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2012, 02:54:10 pm »
Thank you for sharing this - it's a great objective way to look at something like this issue of why some are so critical of others. :)

Precisely which part of the ancedote was particularly "objective"?
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2012, 05:29:49 pm »
Re: why are some people so critical

My guess would be because they need ALOT of prayer.  ;)



That's pretty humorous, I'll grant you that.  Of course, it could also be that they don't.

Typically, it's the ones that don't think they do...that need it the MOST.

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #42 on: March 02, 2012, 05:37:50 pm »
Maybe falcon & duroz should start their own little thread for just the two of them where they can "d&d" to their hearts content!  :thumbsup: 

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #43 on: March 02, 2012, 06:10:23 pm »
Typically, it's the ones that don't think they do...that need it the MOST.

More typically, it's the ones that believe that others who don't believe need something so useless the most.
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #44 on: March 02, 2012, 06:11:29 pm »
Maybe falcon & duroz should start their own little thread for just the two of them where they can "d&d" to their hearts content!  :thumbsup:  


Why should we?  Any member can post in any thread or subforum here; despite faint-hearted attempts to control such things.  You don't see posts from duroz or anyone else complaining when more than one fundie 'gang-up' on one non-religious dissenter.  Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for said fundies, (several of whom have complained when their religious notions get challenged).  The inherent hypocrisy is starting to run rampant.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2012, 06:14:42 pm by falcon9 »
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