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falcon9

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2012, 06:45:09 pm »
  The reason they are so critical is because they do not understand diversity and that makes them very intolerant and critical.



Maybe they don't understand that being critical of people being critical will soon reach the critical mass of maximum irony too.
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2012, 06:51:56 pm »
That's because they're unhappy with themselves....  :crybaby2:

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2012, 06:54:47 pm »
That's because they're unhappy with themselves....  :crybaby2:


Or, it could be because they have blue eyes, (or green, or brown).  Maybe they were raised by Vulcans, (or hawks, or wolves).  It's quite possible to speculate randomly without actually hitting upon the reason(s) accidentally.
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2012, 11:25:13 pm »
I agree with you 100%!!! I ask myself this question almost everyday!!!! I wish things were different but I'm afraid it seems to be getting worse!

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2012, 03:59:27 am »
Often I find critical people (in the sense that it isn't their job duty to be critical) to be those that have personal control issues.  



On the other hand, I find that "control" has nothing to do with challenging others to acquire a bit of critical thinking skill themselves, (whether they do or not).  Further, I've found that some do not enjoy applying such thinking to their cherished beliefs and will instead, counter-attack with speculative allegations rather than closely examine their own "issues".
 

I suppose their are other types of hyper critical people as well, but I mainly find those that I encounter to fit into the above two categories.


Oddly enough, a post which criticizes others for criticizing is sublimely ironic.

That isn't irony at all (You know this, I suppose, and have simply fallen into the standard rut that ninety percent of most people do.  I blame Hollywood mostly for it's prevalent misuse of the word and even one who correctly uses the word 'irony' has to translate the other usage so frequently that you become used to the misuse as a natural state -- which is an odd way of effectively relearning something incorrectly).
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2012, 04:21:00 am »
That isn't irony at all (You know this, I suppose, and have simply fallen into the standard rut that ninety percent of most people do.  I blame Hollywood mostly for it's prevalent misuse of the word and even one who correctly uses the word 'irony' has to translate the other usage so frequently that you become used to the misuse as a natural state -- which is an odd way of effectively relearning something incorrectly).


You are correct about the literal meaning of the word being commonly shifted to a more colloquial usage.  It would be more accurate to state that criticizing someone for criticizing others is hypocritical, (which is oddly close to hyper-critical and nearly 'meta-critical').
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2012, 04:25:00 am »
Some people are that insecure that they must make others feel bad to make them selves look and feel good.

I chose to just ignore these types of people ... not work expending any energy on them.
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2012, 04:39:36 am »
Some people are that insecure that they must make others feel bad to make them selves look and feel good.


That's one possibility.  Another is that some people are insecure about being criticized, (or, having the perception of criticism), which makes them unsure of themselves when they are unable to respond rationally or, internally examine what's being 'criticized'.  Remember that some "criticism" can be constructive too, (precluding the implicit assumption that it is negative).


I chose to just ignore these types of people ... not work expending any energy on them.

Perhaps because you don't want to know whether you are one of those types of people who fear that being 'criticized' will make you feel insecure?
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2012, 10:02:20 am »
if you are referring to falcon's atheistic posts, you are 100% correct.



In what way, (besides an unspecific and biased opinion)?


I think he was already corrected in your other post.



"Corrected", how and in what other post?

If he really believed there was no God ...



I've repeatedly specified that a disbelief isn't a 'belief', (they're opposites), while further requesting that believers present evidence supporting their beliefs, (which they've failed thusfar to do).


why does he hate something so viciously that doesn't even exist?



You are mistaking rational dissent for an irrational hatred, (and further imputing a subjective perception of "viciously" dissenting).  To reiterate my position; it is one where challenges to the specious religious beliefs presented as claims by others have  been consistent.


His fanatical defense of atheism is far more unreasonable and ignorant than someone asking for some prayers.


Such strawman arguments notwithstanding, (that is, a specious presentation of dissent regarding religious belief as being a "fanatical defense of atheism"), the conclusion that using reason is somehow "far more unreasonable and ignorant than someone asking for some prayers" is an irrational one which does not have evidence to support such an assertion.  As for asking for "prayers", nothing stops someone else from either doing so or, getting others to do so - not even requests to provide evidence for that process being effective.
If you were not fanatical, you wouldn't attack every person who requests prayers, or every post which mentions any belief in religion. I am not going to get into any arguments with you. It is unreasonable and ignorant to spout off your atheism and disbelief in a thread where someone is asking for prayers. Even if you don't believe in the power of prayer, other people do, and it is not your place to insult them for their beliefs. Your hatred of people's belief in God is thus made evident.
For proof that God exists, you have only to look around at all the marvels of creation that could not resonably have gotten their by themselves, all the marvels of nature that didn't just happen. A Supreme force must have put them there.
If you don't want to believe in anything, you have free willl to do whatever you want, but stop attacking everybody who does believe in God.

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #24 on: February 29, 2012, 10:08:40 am »
To be critical of others only reflect on ones personal short coming is how i view it.

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2012, 10:12:54 am »
I belive they are so unhappy within their selves they just have to make someone else unhappy. Heard a good one the other day.
Don't critize someone until you have walked a mile in their shoes. Then if you critize them you are at least a mile away and in their shoes.
I really don't care for some constructive critizen. Maybe they mean well, just don't do it, it hurts others.

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2012, 12:32:15 pm »
If you were not fanatical, you wouldn't attack every person who requests prayers, or every post which mentions any belief in religion.


Since there are dozens of posts where 'prayer' and 'religion' are mentioned where I have not replied, I manifestly do not "attack every person who requests prayers, or every post which mentions any belief in religion".  This evidence makes your allegation false.


I am not going to get into any arguments with you.


No?  You'd much rather spout-off a baseless opinion and then avoid supporting or discussing it instead?


It is unreasonable and ignorant to spout off your atheism and disbelief in a thread where someone is asking for prayers.

I disagree. Conversely, I could contend that it is "unreasonable and ignorant" to hold such religious beliefs.  The difference is, I can delineate why whereas you apparently enjoy making unsupported assertions.


Even if you don't believe in the power of prayer, other people do, and it is not your place to insult them for their beliefs.


I've repeatedly maintained that others are welcome to their own beliefs and that once such beliefs appear in the off-topic/debate+discussion forums that they are open to dissent.  That's how the 'freedom' to belief or disbelieve works in the U.S., (it does not include suppression of dissenting views by mischaracterizing them as "insult").  It never occurs to you that unreasoned, unsupported religious beliefs might be 'insulting' to those who don't hold those particular assumptions, does it?


Your hatred of people's belief in God is thus made evident.

Conversely, your inability to reason is strongly evident.


For proof that God exists, you have only to look around at all the marvels of creation that could not resonably have gotten their by themselves, all the marvels of nature that didn't just happen. A Supreme force must have put them there.


Such assumptions are making unwarranted attributions of cause and effect.  Those assumptions are based upon 'faith' and not evidence which makes them extremely dubious.


If you don't want to believe in anything, you have free willl to do whatever you want, but stop attacking everybody who does believe in God.

Obviously, the hypocrisy evident in your "attacking" someone who doesn't belief as you do whooses right over your head, (otherwise you'd 'hear' the pot calling the kettle black).
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2012, 12:50:12 pm »
please be on topic this is about being "critical" not "religion".


as for the OP agree on that sista.. because pple tend to hate thats all there to it...

and to falcon yes this does concerns you as a whole. because we felt frustrated with your childish antics. it doesnt matter man your still causing trouble for others here from religion aspects and it should be dealt with the staff...

if your so smart then go to other forums im sure they can compete with you... this forum is for pple to make money have fun and help others out. you can make money too and help but put your difference aside no need to challenge us like we know nothing..

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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #28 on: February 29, 2012, 01:06:34 pm »
please be on topic this is about being "critical" not "religion".


This forum is called "off topic".  If some want to interject "religion" into it, (and others have), then others have as much leeway to reply to those interjections. 


and to falcon yes this does concerns you as a whole.


No, only the part where you're trolling me and then want Admin to "do something about falcon9" does.  Strangely, your "antics" are mildly humorous but, not all that entertaining.
 

because we felt frustrated with your childish antics. it doesnt matter man your still causing trouble for others here from religion aspects and it should be dealt with the staff...


Fortunately, the Admin staff can read and, if content doesn't violate TOS, (which it hasn't, at least from me), they avoid employing the censorship you are advocating.

if your so smart then go to other forums im sure they can compete with you...

My being on other forums in no way precludes my participation on FC forums however, your implicit suggestion to leave reveals your true motive.


this forum is for pple to make money have fun and help others out. you can make money too and help but put your difference aside


There are several forums/subforums on FC.  Two of them are "off topic" and "debate + discussion".  This particular thread exists in the off topic forum which means it's for topics unrelated to FC.  I've made some money with FC and also posted assistance replies to those requesting help with various aspects of using FC.


no need to challenge us like we know nothing..

A challenge isn't made because someone knows "nothing"; they are nominally made so that preconceptions are questioned.  An unquestioned preconception can have dire consequences.
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Re: why are some people so critical
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2012, 09:24:08 am »
They are critical because it makes them feel better when they put others down.  They are bitter because their life is miserbale, so being critical gives them a little jolt of excitement.
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