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hicaniplay

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2012, 05:11:44 am »
He promised us *bleep*, but gave us blue jelly beans.

lol Nice line. Made me giggle. :)

I'm not too peeved at Obama - I came to terms that change has to be gradual a while ago. Even if it's a tiny step, at least it's forward and not backwards. Start the ball rolling, and it might be easier in the future to nudge it to the side and onto a better path later, you know? Uhm, I'm not very good at metaphors, lol.

Plus, some of the current crop of candidates are saying things I very much disagree with and find stupid, so I'm finding myself going "at least Obama doesn't say crazy stuff like this" and thinking more favorably about him lol.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2012, 09:47:46 am »
:wave: obama did not end the war in iraq. the troops left on the time line already negociated before he took office.

That's fairly accurate.


all obama has done is run the largest deficit in the history of our country.



That's fairly inaccurate.  Congress controls deficit spending and this was run-up under other, (republican), presidents to its current levels.


he has divided our country more than any president in history.


In what particular ways?


he should not even hold the office of dog catcher.

Many dog catchers should not hold that office, let alone that of president, (based upon their capabilities within the parameters of either office).

I just can't believe there are still people in the United States of America that still support Obama!  He has done nothing to help the majority of the people and has run us so far in debt we will probably never get out.  And, did you see the clip yesterday where he was meeting with someone from Russia and was low-talking and did not know his mike was still live and he was telling this guy to just wait until he gets re-elected and things will be much better.  He patted the guy on the knee and the guy told him he will pass the message along to Valdimir (I believe thats who he said).  We are the laughing stock of the entire world because he's always apoligizing for America and now he wants to buddy up to the Russians!!  What is wrong with this picture?!?   And, what is wrong with the people who run around with their eyes closed to what is really going on in the world and here on our domestic soil?  Its unbelieveable!  Another 4 years of Obama and we will be a Socialist nation with nothing but memories of what our great Country used to be.  Please people, come to your senses before its too late

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2012, 06:11:43 pm »
I couldnt agree more with the topic!!!

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2012, 06:54:32 pm »
I love our President.  He has taken care of Sudam Hussan, and Osama Bin Ladin.  He help the UN get rid of Kadaffi.  He has also cleared out quite a few AlQuida.  The cost of the military is not on him that was Bush (wars started by Bush), he is slowly taking us out of the war areas without causing the Countries to much stress at the transition of taking over their own battle.  When Bush took office the first thing he did was DOUBLED his salary.  When President Obama took office he cut his salary as well as all of his personel.  He bailed out the Car industry in Detroit and every one of them bounced back within the first year.  He wants people like me unemployed and my husband because of his race who has been overlooked for benefits for over a year now to be able to see a doctor when needed by having insurance that we couldnt get any other way.  He is helping us.  You only have to look at what he has said and done to know that the American population is his main focus.

The military took care of Hussein and Bin Laden.  Hussein under Bush and Bin Laden under Obama.  Gaddafi was killed by rebels.  Presidents cannot declare war, only congress can.  Between Bush and Obama, only Obama engaged in costly military action without the authorization of Congress.  Obama followed the guidelines set under Bush regarding withdrawal from Iraq.  Bush did not double his salary, since a president doesn't control his own pay.  Congress doubled the presidential salary under Clinton.  Obama did not cut his salary in half (again since that is not controlled by the president), and it remains at the same level as under Bush.  Chrysler is now owned by Fiat and is no longer an American controlled company.  Taxpayer total loses in the bailouts to the auto industry total over 23 billion.  I would hardly celebrate any 'bounce back' over losing 23 billion and one American car company.  I do agree with you that Obama wants people unemployed.  I am glad that he helped your husband.  Personally he hasn't helped me and I don't have insurance (although I can see a doctor whenever I want to, just like I and everyone else was always able to do).  I do believe he is focused on the American population as well, much like a cat focuses on a canary.
Correct and to the point as usual, sir.  Amazing how ignorant the average Joe is.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2012, 07:07:06 pm »
all obama has done is run the largest deficit in the history of our country.

That's fairly inaccurate.  Congress controls deficit spending and this was run-up under other, (republican), presidents to its current levels.
 
I just can't believe there are still people in the United States of America that still support Obama!  He has done nothing to help the majority of the people and has run us so far in debt we will probably never get out. 

That's fairly inaccurate.  Congress controls deficit spending and this was run-up under other, (republican), presidents to its current levels.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2012, 04:02:34 am »
The President is only here to help him self mostly at are expense !!!!!

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2012, 10:09:19 am »
The President is only here to help him self mostly at are expense !!!!!
I actually wish that were true, but it's not, it's much worse. He is here to destroy our free country, and replace it with a socialist, communist dictatorship. He has no respect for our rights guaranteed by the Constitution, which becomes evident when he lets things slip that weren't supposed to come out.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2012, 02:27:56 pm »
I agree with falcon9 on his responses.  You can't blame Obama for everything just because you are a Republican.  If you look at the chart just prior to Bush2 taking office, it was Clinton that held up the best in ratings during his Presidency.  Yes, he made plenty of mistakes, but remember the republicans spent 8 years chasing him instead of doing their job in the congress and house.  Even through all the crap the threw at him, he still managed to balance the budget before leaving office and the question at that time was where to put the extra money.  Well, we won't see that question again in my lifetime after the way Bush changed our balanced system.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2012, 02:58:09 pm »
I think we have made major improvements in this country from the end of Bush to now. Yes we are still at war, have high unemployment and healthcare is an issue. Bit look at the whole picture in front of our president and how he had dealt with it. We are getting closer to a better controlled war, the unemployment level is getting better month by month and the healthcare issue is a beast that would be extremely hard for any person to handle at all. Have a good one everyone!!!

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2012, 08:11:13 pm »
I agree with falcon9 on his responses.  You can't blame Obama for everything just because you are a Republican.  If you look at the chart just prior to Bush2 taking office, it was Clinton that held up the best in ratings during his Presidency.  Yes, he made plenty of mistakes, but remember the republicans spent 8 years chasing him instead of doing their job in the congress and house.  Even through all the crap the threw at him, he still managed to balance the budget before leaving office and the question at that time was where to put the extra money.  Well, we won't see that question again in my lifetime after the way Bush changed our balanced system.
Gingrich and Kasich balanced the budget with very little help from Clinton.  Until then Clinton ran large budget deficits.  It was part of the Gingrich revolution.  Unfortunately the revolution petered out and the Republicans turned back into big spending politicians.

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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2012, 11:47:03 am »
the one thing i didnt like about obama he didnt kept his promise on releasing the troops in afganistan last year during xmas like he said he would... but i like his other abilties on what he did that bush caused in the first place. obama cleared bushes mess by a landslide... but now alot of angry folks saying alot of crap aboout obama mishaps. hey get it to your head peeps bush planned this and willing to make obama has heat...

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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2012, 04:22:23 pm »
the one thing i didnt like about obama he didnt kept his promise on releasing the troops in afganistan last year during xmas like he said he would... but i like his other abilties on what he did that bush caused in the first place. obama cleared bushes mess by a landslide... but now alot of angry folks saying alot of crap aboout obama mishaps. hey get it to your head peeps bush planned this and willing to make obama has heat...
   I agree with some of that.  Obama was handed 2 wars and a very unpopular bailout that was actually thrown at him in the very last days before election.  A smart politician would have seen what was coming.  Obama never backed off, and has tried to accomplish many things he wanted to get done, despite the dire circumstances he was thrust in.  Republicans spend their time chasing birth certificates, tying him to muslim heritage, and other image bashing over the four years, just like they did when Clinton was in office.  Obama has to incorporate public influence to even get the republicans to work with congress and the house, since they try to stop anything he promoted that would help the country.  I'm not a party guy, I vote for the individual, not the party in the end.  After seeing how the Republican side spends all their time in character assassination and delaying the duties of the government, I'm sick of that group.  I used to always feel it's the corporate control of government that prevents America from moving forward for our workers and families.  Now I'm about to put the Republicans right up there with corporate controlled government.  Oh I forgot.  They are from oil and insurance and banking industries in their campaigns.  I guess that ties them together like an iceberg sinking any chance for Americans to move forward, just like the Titanic.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2012, 05:11:52 pm »
Considering we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world, I would really question this idea that we have a corporate ran government. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world:  those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2012, 05:37:44 pm »
Abrupt, I don't know all the incentives and tax givebacks involved, but I do know that my most recent job in HR, we got a tax credit for over $3500 for every employee we hired.  The company hired over 12,000 employees the 7 years I was there.  In some cases, based on military or disability issues, that credit jumped  to 7 to 8 thousand in credits to hire the individual.  We just forwarded the 8850 to the corporate hr office and the money was a given. 

   Unfortunately most never made it through training, and those that did usually never made it 6 months due to the stress levels in the customer service center.  We still got the credit for hiring them.  We averaged between 800 to 1000 employees at our location, which was only one of many.  The company averaged over 50,000 employees and it was primarily customer service representatives. 

   In the time I was there that averaged 1714 people each year being hired.  If I just go with the 3500, that would be around 5,999,000 earned each year hiring people with the government incentives in place.  Since we only had around 800 to 1000 employees on site at my location, and we had at least 100 employees and managers that had been there long term , this means we basically recycled 90 % of our employees each year.  That's almost 6 million in tax incentives just for our site alone. 

  Like I said before, I don't know about all the other corporate incentives companies get...   but as you can see they can be very lucrative to the companies, so much so that the company reinvents their policies to take advantage of them. 

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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2012, 08:13:43 pm »
One of my pet peeves is you cannot spend and borrow your way out of debt. I did not vote for Obama,but i did expect him to hold up to his promises. Our social security is not a federal benifit but what we have worked and paid into all of our working years. Those that are drawing welfare did not. I resent being clumped in with them. And if Clinton and Johnson had not used ss money we would not be in the spot that we are now. Pay it back. And obama healthcare sucks. Why doesn't congress have to live with the same insurance that we do. Pay  into ss. and not get a life payment for their short or long terms ( crooks).

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