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carty1

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The President is only here to help
« on: February 10, 2012, 08:37:56 pm »
The President is doing the best job he can many people don't agree but he's great as a President. He has helped many people :thumbsup: :wave:

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2012, 02:36:01 pm »
You're going to get a lot of flak for this especially since you didn't post any reasons why he's doing good. He has done a lot of good (New trade agreements, getting Bin Laden during his term, ending the war in Iraq, more border patrol, repealed 'dont ask dont tell', more money into schools + slightly longer school days for kids, an attempt at a decent healthcare reform etc. etc.), he's also done a lot of bad (...the healthcare reform, TSA bs, national debt climbing at a higher rate, etc.).

My opinion- he's okay. I'm still not a big fan of him. Then again, people need to understand that presidential popularity declines heavily as the years go by.

« Last Edit: February 11, 2012, 04:39:42 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2012, 05:29:45 pm »
How come every time a politician or the government 'helps' it ends up costing me more money and I end up losing more freedoms?

Nice graph Falconer02, it is revealing.
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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2012, 11:18:52 am »
A good president would change the social contract to a Economic one not a military one. Right now, we are spending close to a trillion dollars on the military even though we have nukes... We really only need like 100 nukes not over 100,000. If we switch to a ecnomic contract, we can actually save the world. America has so much farmland, we can use the land to feed all the people in the world. By doing this, the rich will become richer and everyone is happy. But stupid idiots are in the government now.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2012, 11:57:24 am »
A good president would change the social contract to a Economic one not a military one. Right now, we are spending close to a trillion dollars on the military even though we have nukes... We really only need like 100 nukes not over 100,000. If we switch to a ecnomic contract, we can actually save the world. America has so much farmland, we can use the land to feed all the people in the world. By doing this, the rich will become richer and everyone is happy. But stupid idiots are in the government now.

As noble as that sounds, the Government has no responsibility or authority to "feed the world" (although we technically do already).  The job of our government is basically as follows "keep us Free", "keep us Safe", manage roads and such, make it easy for states to trade with each other and for business to do business across state lines (lol they reversed it to make it harder because they changed they don't understand that 'regulate' meant "make regular" back in the day...one reason I hate to see words get redefined), and a few other lesser things after that.  Our government has no authority to so social security or medicare or medicaid or student loans or any of this other crap it has squandered our blood on.  Such things only end up harming us and enslaving the citizens and they are as vile an evil as any can imagine when you take them to their ends and realize their effects.

So a bad and criminal president would do what you suggested, and I hope you can understand why that is.
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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 10:20:42 am »
I love our President.  He has taken care of Sudam Hussan, and Osama Bin Ladin.  He help the UN get rid of Kadaffi.  He has also cleared out quite a few AlQuida.  The cost of the military is not on him that was Bush (wars started by Bush), he is slowly taking us out of the war areas without causing the Countries to much stress at the transition of taking over their own battle.  When Bush took office the first thing he did was DOUBLED his salary.  When President Obama took office he cut his salary as well as all of his personel.  He bailed out the Car industry in Detroit and every one of them bounced back within the first year.  He wants people like me unemployed and my husband because of his race who has been overlooked for benefits for over a year now to be able to see a doctor when needed by having insurance that we couldnt get any other way.  He is helping us.  You only have to look at what he has said and done to know that the American population is his main focus.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 12:53:43 pm »
I love our President.  He has taken care of Sudam Hussan, and Osama Bin Ladin.  He help the UN get rid of Kadaffi.  He has also cleared out quite a few AlQuida.  The cost of the military is not on him that was Bush (wars started by Bush), he is slowly taking us out of the war areas without causing the Countries to much stress at the transition of taking over their own battle.  When Bush took office the first thing he did was DOUBLED his salary.  When President Obama took office he cut his salary as well as all of his personel.  He bailed out the Car industry in Detroit and every one of them bounced back within the first year.  He wants people like me unemployed and my husband because of his race who has been overlooked for benefits for over a year now to be able to see a doctor when needed by having insurance that we couldnt get any other way.  He is helping us.  You only have to look at what he has said and done to know that the American population is his main focus.

The military took care of Hussein and Bin Laden.  Hussein under Bush and Bin Laden under Obama.  Gaddafi was killed by rebels.  Presidents cannot declare war, only congress can.  Between Bush and Obama, only Obama engaged in costly military action without the authorization of Congress.  Obama followed the guidelines set under Bush regarding withdrawal from Iraq.  Bush did not double his salary, since a president doesn't control his own pay.  Congress doubled the presidential salary under Clinton.  Obama did not cut his salary in half (again since that is not controlled by the president), and it remains at the same level as under Bush.  Chrysler is now owned by Fiat and is no longer an American controlled company.  Taxpayer total loses in the bailouts to the auto industry total over 23 billion.  I would hardly celebrate any 'bounce back' over losing 23 billion and one American car company.  I do agree with you that Obama wants people unemployed.  I am glad that he helped your husband.  Personally he hasn't helped me and I don't have insurance (although I can see a doctor whenever I want to, just like I and everyone else was always able to do).  I do believe he is focused on the American population as well, much like a cat focuses on a canary.
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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 06:01:17 pm »
id rather have a president can keep his words to stay true then just play some wishful thinkin.. he said the troops will be back at christmas there is no promise to that.. but i do appreciate his work ethic and hes way better then bush tho.. but all in all i think political stuff is just crap.. so many lies and conspiracy going on..

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 10:17:53 am »
Obama helped my daughter when we were able to put her back on our insurance... I will always have good thoughts towards him because of this... I just wish we could keep her on it longer...

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 08:09:11 pm »
I highly doubt any President elected in this age wanted/wants to be President "to help" (unless it's to help themselves).

To me, most of the choices for Presidency are a matter of looking for what I consider the "lesser evils".  I don't care much for most of them.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2012, 09:30:59 pm »
Look at the mans history..where he grew up , who were his mentors, associates, so called czars. His hisory with mentors, and associates suggest that not only is he a Muslim...(Nothing wrong with that, but lying about it? What else does he lie about?) but that his political leanings are toward socialism ( hence the "healthcare reform"..the first step..socialized medicine) Look at how in the past he refused to wear the American flag pin, that most lawmakers wear. Look at how in the past, when the Pledge of Allegience was being said or the Natonal Anthem was played.....there he was in a crowd of people with their hand on their heart or saluting,  standing there doing his famous "crotch salute". The one reason he stopped is because he couldn't take the public flack anymore. That's about as phony as one can be. I could go on and on!

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 01:07:20 am »
I'm pretty liberal. I will vote democrat 75% of the time at least.

I am VERY unhappy with Obama's first term. 
I feel he has made small gains in terms of policies he ran on. He was "crippled" by a republican Congress for the last two years of his d "yes We Can"term. Whatever.
The progress he made as far as the economy is beginning to show (lowered unemployment rate, Dow Jones highest since 2007) but if I wanted realistic, moderate change.... I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR HILLARY CLINTON in 2008!!!

I wasn't promised "A 2% reduction in unemployment over 39 months"... I was promised "CHANGE" and "Yes We Can"
We aren't any worse off right now because of him. No one in office the last three years would have had us in a Utopia. But Obama has grossly fell short of what he promised.  He promised us *bleep*, but gave us blue jelly beans.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 12:40:36 pm »
The President is only here to help his masters, not the people. The merging of Corparations/State (Fascism) is becoming deeper every day. When both the R's and D's agree on something then that means it's bad for the people and great for the corporations.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 05:44:45 pm »
 :wave: obama did not end the war in iraq. the troops left on the time line already negociated before he took office. all obama has done is run the largest deficit in the history of our country. he has divided our country more than any president in history. he should not even hold the office of dog catcher.

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Re: The President is only here to help
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 08:49:04 pm »
:wave: obama did not end the war in iraq. the troops left on the time line already negociated before he took office.

That's fairly accurate.


all obama has done is run the largest deficit in the history of our country.


That's fairly inaccurate.  Congress controls deficit spending and this was run-up under other, (republican), presidents to its current levels.


he has divided our country more than any president in history.


In what particular ways?


he should not even hold the office of dog catcher.

Many dog catchers should not hold that office, let alone that of president, (based upon their capabilities within the parameters of either office).
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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