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sarabtrayior

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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #195 on: March 01, 2012, 10:29:52 am »
NOT Sen. Rick Santorum, he voted a raise for himself and didn't care about the American People, putting them more and more into debt!!!

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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #196 on: March 02, 2012, 02:09:00 pm »
Don't forget that Santorum voted to raise the Debt Ceiling 5 times while in office. He loves to spend gov't money.

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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #197 on: March 02, 2012, 02:19:17 pm »
Don't forget that Santorum voted to raise the Debt Ceiling 5 times while in office. He loves to spend gov't money.

There is no such animal as government money...it is our money, but I guess that is what you meant.  All of this 'free' stuff Obama is giving away is paid for with money stolen from us -- not that it is just him but I too often hear accolades from the liberals about the wonderful free stuff he is providing them.  Remember the government doesn't earn money, it cannot invest money, all it can do is steal and consume and waste.  Some is necessary (defense, roads, things authorized by the constitution) and some is not (health care, social security, etc).
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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #198 on: March 02, 2012, 02:41:12 pm »
Exactly the gov't doesn't have any money of it's own, it takes our (the people's money) you're dead on about that. In order for the gov't to help one group of people it has to take from another group to do it. You should watch a great documentary on taxes and such called "Freedom to Fascism" I think it's on google videos and youtube. Was quite an eye opener.

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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #199 on: March 02, 2012, 03:07:36 pm »
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Some is necessary (defense, roads, things authorized by the constitution) and some is not (health care, social security, etc).

I think this is just where I fundamentally disagree with you.  I am not for gov't providing health care, but social security isn't an "entitlement"... you pay into it your entire working life.

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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #200 on: March 02, 2012, 03:12:15 pm »
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Some is necessary (defense, roads, things authorized by the constitution) and some is not (health care, social security, etc).

I think this is just where I fundamentally disagree with you.  I am not for gov't providing health care, but social security isn't an "entitlement"... you pay into it your entire working life.

Participants also pay Medicare part B, (or D, etc.), premiums as well so, that would more accurately be termed as a subsidized benefit, (unlike farm subsidies, where farmers are paid not to grow crops?).
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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #201 on: March 02, 2012, 07:48:17 pm »
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Some is necessary (defense, roads, things authorized by the constitution) and some is not (health care, social security, etc).

I think this is just where I fundamentally disagree with you.  I am not for gov't providing health care, but social security isn't an "entitlement"... you pay into it your entire working life.

Participants also pay Medicare part B, (or D, etc.), premiums as well so, that would more accurately be termed as a subsidized benefit, (unlike farm subsidies, where farmers are paid not to grow crops?).

I wasn't clear... I am not for gov't COMPLETELY handling health care.

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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #202 on: March 02, 2012, 08:11:45 pm »
I wasn't clear... I am not for gov't COMPLETELY handling health care.

So far, it doesn't.  Medicare/Tricare/Medicaid etc. are goverment programs however, there are numerous other private healthcare providers.  No private programs providing healthcare insurance is completely free from government involvement/regulation but, patients still get billed $12 for an aspirin in hospitals.  The question posed was how much involvement is appropriate?  The answers have ranged from none to some, (where the 'some' varies).
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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #203 on: March 02, 2012, 09:54:54 pm »
I wasn't clear... I am not for gov't COMPLETELY handling health care.

So far, it doesn't.  Medicare/Tricare/Medicaid etc. are goverment programs however, there are numerous other private healthcare providers.  No private programs providing healthcare insurance is completely free from government involvement/regulation but, patients still get billed $12 for an aspirin in hospitals.  The question posed was how much involvement is appropriate?  The answers have ranged from none to some, (where the 'some' varies).

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Re: Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?
« Reply #204 on: March 02, 2012, 10:31:48 pm »
I wasn't clear... I am not for gov't COMPLETELY handling health care.

So far, it doesn't.  Medicare/Tricare/Medicaid etc. are goverment programs however, there are numerous other private healthcare providers.  No private programs providing healthcare insurance is completely free from government involvement/regulation but, patients still get billed $12 for an aspirin in hospitals.  The question posed was how much involvement is appropriate?  The answers have ranged from none to some, (where the 'some' varies).


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