Who do you think should win the Republican nomination?

[trucktina]

Well, it seems to me, that no matter what, the winner is the one with the most bucks. I think people really don't do there own thinking anymore and just go by what the ads, commercials and news pundents say. I think our congress all the way to the President is basically bought!
But that is just my opinion.

Really? How did Rick Santorum win three states on Tuesday then? Why didn't the "one with the most bucks" -- Mitt Romney-- win even one? I hope that you can temper your cynicism with a little more faith in your fellow citizens. We're not happy with going with whoever the GOP shoved down our throats! Unless or until Romney is the nominee, I'm not supporting him.

[Garydh]

What I don't like about these races, is that usually money wins the nomination. Also why don't these wanna be Presidents show who they want to be the Vice President? That to me would also help the people in their selection. As the VP is just a heart beat away, and I think should be shown up front. But in answer to the question, if the Republicans keep shooting themselves in the foot, the you will have President Obama for a second term.

[trucktina]

These people haven't chosen a VP because it's presumptuous, and it wouldn't be official anyway. The party has to okay who is the VP at the convention. For example, John McCain chose his VP pick a couple days before the GOP convention in '08 (the end of August). Way too early.

I somewhat agree with your second point. If Republicans go around attacking each other like left-wing Dems, we're in big trouble. Santorum hasn't done that. You may want to give him a second look.

[Falconer02]

Santorum hasn't done that. You may want to give him a second look.

As much as I hate to say it, attacking eachother's merit to the extreme is part of the political getup. Though he gets a few points for what you stated (though he has attacked Mitt), there's really no reason to look into him. He's a completely out-of-touch imbecile on basic issues. If one can't trust his judgement on the basics, I doubt one can trust him on the higher/technical issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBO9tNNejo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzzDrOR30U8

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/30/rick-santorum-creationism_n_1120766.html

Top comments in the videos-
" If Santorum does win the republican nomination, it would virtually assure a second term in office for Obama."

"I suspect Rick Santorum is a double agent of the liberals, planted to discredit conservatives."

[trucktina]

I don't understand why you've posted these videos and articles, Falconer. In the first one, Santorum starts by stressing that he is talking about a personal view, and that he votes "for and supports birth control." All Americans have a right to their conscience, and this does not disqualify anyone to hold public office.

In the second video, Santorum does his best to debate a student, a student who is not respectful and doesn't want to debate but yell at him. Santorum points out that just because an organization says something, that is not evidence that something is true. I'm not aware of the group the student cited, by he's correct that the AMA doesn't include many, many doctors.

As far as the HuffPo article, it's a left-wing periodical. Again, you're confusing personal views with something that someone is doing as policy. Thanks for sharing these! 

 

Santorum hasn't done that. You may want to give him a second look.

As much as I hate to say it, attacking eachother's merit to the extreme is part of the political getup. Though he gets a few points for what you stated (though he has attacked Mitt), there's really no reason to look into him. He's a completely out-of-touch imbecile on basic issues. If one can't trust his judgement on the basics, I doubt one can trust him on the higher/technical issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MBO9tNNejo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzzDrOR30U8

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/30/rick-santorum-creationism_n_1120766.html

Top comments in the videos-
" If Santorum does win the republican nomination, it would virtually assure a second term in office for Obama."

"I suspect Rick Santorum is a double agent of the liberals, planted to discredit conservatives."

[trucktina]

When has Santorum attacked Mitt Romney on any issue that isn't factual? I was talking about the Axelrod-Chicago-style personal attacks flying between Mitt and Newt starting after the IA caucuses...

[Falconer02]

Santorum starts by stressing that he is talking about a personal view, and that he votes "for and supports birth control." All Americans have a right to their conscience, and this does not disqualify anyone to hold public office.

He thinks and openly states that birth control is harmful to women and society. Personal or political- either way it's an major asinine quality in this day and age.

Santorum does his best to debate a student, a student who is not respectful and doesn't want to debate but yell at him. Santorum points out that just because an organization says something, that is not evidence that something is true.

The American Psychological Association can provide a lot more educated proof than some old ancient bible can, which seems to be what his whole argument is based off of. Creationists use the same tactic in everything they don't agree with without actually looking at or understanding the evidences that are presented. Notice how he moves around the subject and immediately uses a false dilemma and slippery slope- "Gay marriage will destroy the moral ecology of America! It will undermine the family and destroy faith! And then anyone who disagrees with gay marriage is labelled as a bigot! Any people presenting evidences against me just like to hear themselves talk!" No, Santorum. Do some *bleep* research on gay marriage statistics around the world and get your butt out of the bible-belt mindset for 2 minutes.

As far as the HuffPo article, it's a left-wing periodical.

Any individual who attempts to push a theocratic agenda into public schools is unamerican-- it's trying to break the wall of church and state. The odd thing is that Santorum was the one who appointed the judge for the Kitzmiller v. Dover trial, who then ruled that Intelligent Design isn't actual science. And yet here Santorum is 7 years later still talking about how it should be in schools.

Again, you're confusing personal views with something that someone is doing as policy.

I honestly don't want someone in a position of power who sports such uneducated and out-of-date viewpoints. They may affect his choices in policy. Looking at comments whenever he's mentioned, the words "Dark ages" appear more times than they should.

I was talking about the Axelrod-Chicago-style personal attacks flying between Mitt and Newt starting after the IA caucuses...

Ahh alrighty then.

[constance312003]

I am not thrilled with any candiate but I sure don't want another 4 years with our current President.

[sigmapi1501]

I am not thrilled with any candiate but I sure don't want another 4 years with our current President.

Why not?

[vickysue]

At this point i don't know who will be running, All i know is i won't vote for the one that is in power right now. He scares me. All of this smack talking right now is now helping the rep.  they should be bring up all the negative things that have gone on this past 3 years, well almost 4.

[trucktina]

At this point i don't know who will be running, All i know is i won't vote for the one that is in power right now. He scares me. All of this smack talking right now is now helping the rep.  they should be bring up all the negative things that have gone on this past 3 years, well almost 4.

I think they're doing their best, Vickysue. The problem is that the Mainstream Media is working in league with this WH. So the attacks and the questions are not focused ever on what Obama has done. Google "Media Matters" and the controversy with them and the Obama Admin. essentially writing news broadcasts for CNN, MSNBC and the like. Our liberties, here the 1st Amendment, are under assault.

[sigmapi1501]

Ummm the "Media" is not in bed with Obama.   What is the most watched news? Fox News. The are nothing more than a propaganda arm for the GOP.  MSNBC is very liberal but they are hardly credible.

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Ummm the "Media" is not in bed with Obama.   What is the most watched news? Fox News. The are nothing more than a propaganda arm for the GOP.  MSNBC is very liberal but they are hardly credible.

Actually much of the media, other than Fox News, is in bed with Obama.  Have you seen the recent admittance of Media Matters on how they have daily meetings with the White House and then basically write the news for many organizations (MSNBC is literally word for word, if not exactly word for word.  There are many others besides that though). 

Yes Fox News is the most watched news, because it is the most balanced.  There are no left leaning programs on it and only 2 that are right leaning.  The rest are "fair and balanced".  Even the right leaning ones allow for opposing voices and they do let the other side get their say in.  Half the important news one would never be aware of if they didn't watch Fox News and that is just a shame that the other media has fallen to such depths.

[Falconer02]

Actually much of the media, other than Fox News, is in bed with Obama.

Yes Fox News is the most watched news, because it is the most balanced.

Even the right leaning ones allow for opposing voices and they do let the other side get their say in

BALANCED? Granted all news channels are arguably corrupted, Fox News hands down takes the cake (with msnbc coming close second). No offense to you, but how can anyone take you seriously if you're defending the worst major news station in the country? Even other countries make fun of how laughably biased and exhaggerated the stories and claims they constantly make are. I've talked to many people around the world first-hand (even housed 2 vacationing germans and a russian) and whenever politics comes up in our convos, they mention fox news while rolling their eyes.

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Actually much of the media, other than Fox News, is in bed with Obama.

Yes Fox News is the most watched news, because it is the most balanced.

Even the right leaning ones allow for opposing voices and they do let the other side get their say in

BALANCED? Granted all news channels are arguably corrupted, Fox News hands down takes the cake (with msnbc coming close second). No offense to you, but how can anyone take you seriously if you're defending the worst major news station in the country? Even other countries make fun of how laughably biased and exhaggerated the stories and claims they constantly make are. I've talked to many people around the world first-hand (even housed 2 vacationing germans and a russian) and whenever politics comes up in our convos, they mention fox news while rolling their eyes.

In my opinion if 'the rest of the world' is against Fox News it even reinforces my points all the more.  The rest of the world has been anti-US for a long time.  Some of it is hostility based and some of it is just fatigue of seeing the same team wining repeatedly.  You do understand that don't you?  I mean do you take the word of the Irish about the fairness of the English?  Or the word of the English about the civility of the french?  You have never struck me as naive and these statements of yours seem as if from an imposter.

I mentioned there were two right wing shows and yes they do exaggerate some points (but no more than to the degree the other media ignores important points or exaggerates in favor of liberal policies).  Some of these points need to be exaggerated, though, and the reason is so that people realize how serious some of these seemingly 'petty/miniscule' bits are.  Freedom isn't stolen all at once, it is slowly eroded away over time or traded for a measure of safety or profit.  People don't tend to notice such things unless they are 'exaggerated'.  The most important job of the media is to hold the government accountable and to warn us when our freedom is being threatened.  I don't care if they do exaggerate it in such cases as the loss of even the smallest bit of my freedom is worth getting fired up over.