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falcon9

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2011, 07:00:43 pm »
Burden of proof??? Is this a court lol



No, this isn't even a 'kangaroo-court' however, "burden of proof" is not just a legal concept, it is a reasoning principle in which the one making the claim has the burden of proof to support that claim.  There is no burden of proof in regards to 'proving something doesn't exist' because disproving
a negative claim is sophist. The bottomline is, if you claim it, you get to substantiate it or, the claim defaults to a baseless opinion.



anyway I thought people did want God being shoved down their throat so we separated state and religion...



The context suggests that you may not have intended to opine that "people did want God being shoved down their throat ..."  Just to be clear, many don't.


Well my bandaid opinion at least has some proo I e scroll of the dead sea stuff like that...



What, exactly, are the Dead Sea Scrolls intended to 'prove'?  That the compilers of current versions omitted largely disapproved gnostic writings?  That unsupported fiction can be jotted down and claimed as "inspired" by deities?



Never ever has an atom been created and you can't tel me how... Now u can have whatever opinion u want bur callin me helically in God a band aid opinio and u satin an atom musta just popped out of a magical hat and created a world sounds a lil band aidey to me



I'm speculating, (from the somewhat inarticulate response given), that emergent phenomenon, (atoms/energy "popping" out of chaotic interactions within muntidimensional space as 'islands of stability'), is less of a "band aid opinion" than baseless speculations about deities popping out of multidimensional space.



Evolution is somethin u believe in or not evolution is a fact it's proven... The man who brought up evolution darwin was a Christian... So what's ur point... That just shows how ignorant ur statement are and I really could care less.. Lol so if ur gonna bring up a point at least know the facts... Like I said I really don't care... U can go out side sit there he rest of ur life waitin for a atom to pop up and start evolving... Won't hurt my feelins none


If you are presenting your response as evidence of not evolving, (e.g., opinions regarding ignorance), that can be taken into consideration however, the theory of evolution has a far broader basis than a baseless opinion that a deity created life.
One can lead a horse to water however, if one holds the horse's head under, that horse will drown.

             

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2011, 07:05:26 pm »
One could just as well attribute "everything" to invisible pink unicorns therefore, such generalized attributions do not conclusively describe attributible cause and effect links.  Instead, they constitute unsupported assumptions.

I would be more apt to join a church that worships the omnipotent pink unicorn than a christ-centric religion any day of the week.
Behold the grace of his glorious horn and let its light engulf you with love and glitter!!



Er, there may be a distinct undertone to the whole unicorn symbolism however, I catch most of your drift without delving too deeplyinto unicornism.
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2011, 10:41:31 pm »
...Yep... That's the spirit...

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2011, 10:55:26 pm »
We all believe what we want...whatever one argues  can be used against them.  SO what's the point??? If you don't believe in a God, and I do...why does it bother you so much? Absence of evidence is not Evidence of absence...IJS

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« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2011, 08:24:29 am »
Well in ur kangaroo court ur claim is a baseless opinion... Create an atom... Saying just because u can't show someone something that means it's isn't real is absurbd... Prove to me love is real? Or happiness... Lol U can use all the big words u want u still sound stupid lol like I said u go sit and wait for an atom to pop out of the magic hat and create another universe with all the coincidences that everything works with each other.. Yeah......... U go do that lol

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« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2011, 08:27:19 am »
Everybody has their idea of if there is a God.  I never argue about religion-its a never ending saga. :wave:
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« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2011, 08:42:37 am »
Scientist have never created an atom and can not explain where the first one came from...

And you can't explain where your "god" came from, so...what's your point?  Humans have only really gained steam in making significant scientific progress in the last 100 years or so, so of course we're not going to know a lot of things...some things we will perhaps never know, as it's a vast, vast universe out there.  But you owe almost every facet of your modern life to the science that has come about in recent years, so it's not presumptuous to say that we will only continue to learn more and more about these questions you try to checkmate non-theists with.

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ur pretty much sayin one just popped up hit up against some matter and started a whole universe lol

You obviously don't know what you are talking about.  I'll give you this, though: even your vague, naive, uninformed "take" on events is more in line with reality than a supernatural entity running the show.

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Our bodies are pretty perfect it's mind boggling

Yes, it's mind boggling that you consider them perfect.  Why do we have to sleep, then?  Such a waste of time!  Why are there miscarriages, birth defects, zits, nearsightedness, asthma, allergies, disease, cancer?  We require water or we'll die within 3 days.  Heck, we'll die regardless of what we do, because the universe is NOT a very hospitable place for life.

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The man who brought up evolution darwin was a Christian... So what's ur point...

What's your point?  It doesn't matter what Darwin's religious beliefs were, if the idea is correct, it's correct.  Just like how the founder of Facebook is an atheist...and I'm sure you still use that.

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That just shows how ignorant ur statement are and I really could care less.. Lol so if ur gonna bring up a point at least know the facts...

I find this wildly amusing, being called "ignorant" by someone who can't spell or use proper grammar... hmm...  ;D
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2011, 08:49:12 am »
I would be more apt to join a church that worships the omnipotent pink unicorn than a christ-centric religion any day of the week.
Behold the grace of his glorious horn and let its light engulf you with love and glitter!!


Your post reminded me of this...

Look what my hubby and I found in a church in Italy!

lol  Here ya go:
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2011, 10:43:58 am »
Your post reminded me of this...

Look what my hubby and I found in a church in Italy!

lol  Here ya go:

It is the almighty!!!  :notworthy:

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2011, 11:36:07 am »
I know for a fact God does exsist. He has gotten us through some very tough times.There might be somethings we dont understand but that doesnt mean he doesnt exsist. I am glad that He is there to lean on and have faith in and He is always there to talk to when we need a shoulder. He is my rock and always will be!!! AMEN  :heart:

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2011, 01:21:47 pm »
I know for a fact God does exsist.



If your claim is factual, you'll surely have evidence to support that claim.  If not, then it's not a fact.



He has gotten us through some very tough times.There might be somethings we dont understand but that doesnt mean he doesnt exsist.




Inaccurately attributing effects to supernatural causes does not constitute evidence supporting the claim of a suernatural cause.  Neither does a lack of evidence support the claim.
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2011, 03:25:01 pm »
He has gotten us through some very tough times.

You got yourself through the tough times.  Give yourself some credit!!
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2011, 08:39:21 pm »
He has gotten us through some very tough times.


You got yourself through the tough times.  Give yourself some credit!!



That's the crux of the matter; inaccurating assigning attribution, (and by extension, responsibility).
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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #88 on: December 01, 2011, 10:35:21 pm »
There is no God. All the wonders around us are accidental.
No Almighty hand made a thousand-billion stars.
They made themselves.
No power keeps them on their steady course.
The earth spins itself to keep the oceans from falling off, towards the sun.

Infants teach themselves to cry when they are hungry or hurt.

A small flower invented itself so that we could extract digitalis, for sick hearts.
The earth gave itself day and night, tilted itself so that we get seasons.

Without magnetic poles, man would be unable to navigate the trackless oceans of water and air,
but they just grew there.
How about the sugar thermostat in the pancreas?
It maintains a level of sugar in blood sufficient for energy.
Without it, all of us would fall into coma and die.
Why does snow sit on mountain-tops, waiting for the warm spring sun to melt it, at just the right time for young crops in the farm below to drink?

A very beautiful accident?
The human heart will beat for 70 to 80 years, without faltering.
How does it get sufficient rest between beats?
A kidney will filter poison from the blood, and leave good thing alone. How does it know one from the other?
Who gave the human tongue flexibility to form words, and a brain to understand them, but denied it to all other animals?
Who showed a womb how to take the love of two people, and keep splitting tiny ovum until,
in a time,a baby would have the proper number of fingers, eyes,�ears and hair in all�the right places, and come into the world when it is strong enough to sustain life?
There is no God?......Really?

Wait.... are you question if their is no God or are you mocking people who deny God? I believe their is a God, and I think some people are prob. misunderstanding what you are getting at. If I am understanding right think of this. A bumble bee's wings are too small to carry its body and fly (scientifically) YET it still manages to fly. If that isn't one of the many works of God then I don't know what is.

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Re: there is no god?
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2011, 11:36:05 pm »
If you don't believe in a God, and I do...why does it bother you so much? Absence of evidence is not Evidence of absence...

Absence of Evidence is NOT Evidence of Absence...  ***crickets***

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