there is no god?

[abdyer2001]

so , you can not believe that an atom just as you say popped up. but you can believe that there is an almighty power that created man from nothing, then made woman from the rib of that man.  then when his whole plan went south decided that a virgin would magically get pregnant. if you herd these stories now , you would have to plac them under fiction..  so there is no proof that the believer is correct .. 

Yes... There's dead sea scrolls there def is proof... And what u mean these stories are now and I believe... Like I said y'all go get an atom put it in a box and see if it creates a universe lol...

the dead sea scrolls prove what, that man wrote things down. thats all they prove. 

[falcon9]

the dead sea scrolls prove what, that man wrote things down. thats all they prove. 

Well, they also prove that certain "books" were intentionally omitted from later versions of the 'bible', (such as gnostic and other stuff the Nicea council didn't like).

[Cubboo]

That's all they prove?! They prove that there was a great man named Jesus that went around doing miracles... The box thing has nothing to do with God... It's the big bang theory? Science believes if you can't prove something then it's false... You can't prove where the first atom came from therefore it's false...

[queenofnines]

Science believes if you can't prove something then it's false...

This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen you say thus far.

First of all, science is not a person, therefore it can't "believe" anything.  Anthropomorphize much?

Second, the goal of science is not to prove things right or wrong, it's to gain understanding of the world.  There have been plenty of times where science was wrong and improved upon itself, unlike religion (which must forever remain the same or else be branded hypocritical).

Thirdly, science doesn't go around saying something is false unless there is substantial evidence that the matter at hand is, indeed, false.

I don't know why you assume science is the sole weapon against your diety dreams, anyway.  There are plenty of philosophical/common sense arguments to be had.

[falcon9]

That's all they prove?! They prove that there was a great man named Jesus that went around doing miracles...

No, they constitute baseless claims because substantive proof of those claims is lacking.

The box thing has nothing to do with God... It's the big bang theory?

Is it?  Never heard of superstring theories or, of emergent phenomenon huh?

Science believes if you can't prove something then it's false...

As QoN pointed out, "science believes" no such thing.  Various forms of reasoning can be employed to maintain that, if a claim is made which lacks supportive evidence, that claim has an extremely high probability of being false.  There's a qualative difference between your baseless claim, (e.g., "Science believes if you can't prove something then it's false"), and examining any existing evidence.

You can't prove where the first atom came from therefore it's false...

Are you suggesting that no first atom existed or, that the source cannot be verified?  If the latter, then any claims to that source being deital are unproven and dubious.

[constance312003]

scientist work so hard to prove there is no God and haven't succeeded yet and they never will.  "If God is dead who is this living in my soul"

[falcon9]

scientist work so hard to prove there is no God and haven't succeeded yet and they never will. 

Scientists, (or anyone else), have no need to work at all to 'prove a negative assertion' since those who make the reverse empty claim have never succeded in substantiating it.  There is no reasonable way to determine that they ever will since 'faith' remains an empty premise.

"If God is dead who is this living in my soul"

Are you asking if you are possessed by some sort of entity?

[abdyer2001]

scientist work so hard to prove there is no God and haven't succeeded yet and they never will. 

scientists do not have the need to prove that god does not exist, and christians have not proven that he does exist.  this argument will continue to go in circles.. 

 

[falcon9]

scientist work so hard to prove there is no God and haven't succeeded yet and they never will. 

scientists do not have the need to prove that god does not exist, and christians have not proven that he does exist.  this argument will continue to go in circles.. 

 

Only for those who continue to make the empty claim that some "god" exists, (which differs significantly from not having the burden of proof for the illogical challenge to prove something doesn't exist).

[abdyer2001]

I agree with that falcon.  They want someone to prove that he does not exist with out first showing that he does.  I would like to know which god is the god that they are refering to. I mean there are numerous religeons that claim to be right. they all pray to a god. are they praying to the same god..  who said that the christians are right and other religeons are wrong. (what is your view on that)

[falcon9]

Like I said y'all go get an atom put it in a box and see if it creates a universe lol...

Ever heard of the Higgs-boson particle and the Large Hadron Collider?

[ckaliszewski]

The Bible tells us God revealed Himself to us as The Father.That's good enough for me.

Using that inconclusive source does not constitute valid supportive evidence.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

Thank you so much for saying this, I really hate it when people quote the bible as if it is a legitimate source.

[Azanne07]

whether or not god exists is a personal decision that everyone can make.

i personally am not sure but dont rule it out either.

having a rough childhood makes  me wonder how he could allow something like that but on the otherhand I have a great family now and am very strong for what I have gone through

[dguernsey1]

There is no God. All the wonders around us are accidental.
No Almighty hand made a thousand-billion stars.
They made themselves.
No power keeps them on their steady course.
The earth spins itself to keep the oceans from falling off, towards the sun.

Infants teach themselves to cry when they are hungry or hurt.

A small flower invented itself so that we could extract digitalis, for sick hearts.
The earth gave itself day and night, tilted itself so that we get seasons.

Without magnetic poles, man would be unable to navigate the trackless oceans of water and air,
but they just grew there.
How about the sugar thermostat in the pancreas?
It maintains a level of sugar in blood sufficient for energy.
Without it, all of us would fall into coma and die.
Why does snow sit on mountain-tops, waiting for the warm spring sun to melt it, at just the right time for young crops in the farm below to drink?

A very beautiful accident?
The human heart will beat for 70 to 80 years, without faltering.
How does it get sufficient rest between beats?
A kidney will filter poison from the blood, and leave good thing alone. How does it know one from the other?
Who gave the human tongue flexibility to form words, and a brain to understand them, but denied it to all other animals?
Who showed a womb how to take the love of two people, and keep splitting tiny ovum until,
in a time,a baby would have the proper number of fingers, eyes,�ears and hair in all�the right places, and come into the world when it is strong enough to sustain life?
There is no God?......Really?

Wait.... are you question if their is no God or are you mocking people who deny God? I believe their is a God, and I think some people are prob. misunderstanding what you are getting at. If I am understanding right think of this. A bumble bee's wings are too small to carry its body and fly (scientifically) YET it still manages to fly. If that isn't one of the many works of God then I don't know what is.

 thats what I'm saying....yes..I believe in god.

[falcon9]

The Bible tells us God revealed Himself to us as The Father.That's good enough for me.

Using that inconclusive source does not constitute valid supportive evidence.
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html

Thank you so much for saying this, I really hate it when people quote the bible as if it is a legitimate source.

You're welcome; it apparently needed mentioning.