The Occupy Wall Street Movement

[jaymz462]

They certainly are making a mess in the parks.  I'd be really surprised if they leave them in the same condition they found them. 

Actually, they're keeping the parks cleaner than they found them.

[andzigallery]

I happened to stop by Occupy Wall Street, yesterday.  They are a lot more organized than mainstream media portrays them.  They schedule various events throughout the day.  The reason they appear leaderless is because they function as various human rights/civil rights organization within a group.  They managed to set-up their on media, press and reporters so their messages are getting out there just not by the regular media channels.  What are they asking for: jobs at living wages for everyone; guaranteed healthcare for all; a secure retirement with the ability to retire in dignity; equal access to quality, public education; good housing and protection from hunger; a safe and healthy environment; a just taxation system where corporations and the wealthy pay their fair share.  In case you didn't know, the United States is the only country where people have to pay for their college education.  You owe it to yourself to find out what is going on!

[ayerla41]

I am for the Occupy Movement but I agree that the extremists could kill it. The whole point of the OWS was that it was normal moderate people of both parties trying to make America a more fair place.

[Joeyramone]

A stinking mob of puppets dancing for a powerful group of elite currency traders supported by every group and orginization who hates the US and The US Constitution. 

[GramPolly3]

I fully support Occupy WS. Change happens when the people rise up against the system as has been shown through the history of this country as well as globally. This is truly an apolitical movement and those who try to politicize it will be rebuffed. That point is missed by the media and politicians who alternately ignore or mis-represent the movement.
Think about the inequality in each of your lives and you will see that this is what it is all about. Our economy and ability to support ourselves and our families has been co-opted by the greed of corporations. And we let it happen, we are the ones who must change it.

[andzigallery]

A stinking mob of puppets dancing for a powerful group of elite currency traders supported by every group and orginization who hates the US and The US Constitution.  

Just who are you talking about OWS or corporations?  No one is saying that they hate the US.  It simply not fair when people are losing their jobs; get a college education and still can not make enough to pay off their student loans; have to choose between working while they have a serious illness like cancer so that they don't lose their medical insurance; get their medical insurance cut once they are on the verge of healing; most of their life is spend working to pay off debts; and there is no reason why people should have to work themselves to an early grave.  It wasn't always like this and this is what people are fighting for.  Not because they hate America!  If you read the US Constitution it clearly begins with: "We the People of the United States..."   It says nothing about "We the Corporation/Banks of the United States."

[mawhite63]

I support them and I'm grateful for their actions.

[Joeyramone]

A stinking mob of puppets dancing for a powerful group of elite currency traders supported by every group and orginization who hates the US and The US Constitution.  

Just who are you talking about OWS or corporations?  No one is saying that they hate the US.  It simply not fair when people are losing their jobs; get a college education and still can not make enough to pay off their student loans; have to choose between working while they have a serious illness like cancer so that they don't lose their medical insurance; get their medical insurance cut once they are on the verge of healing; most of their life is spend working to pay off debts; and there is no reason why people should have to work themselves to an early grave.  It wasn't always like this and this is what people are fighting for.  Not because they hate America!  If you read the US Constitution it clearly begins with: "We the People of the United States..."   It says nothing about "We the Corporation/Banks of the United States."

Living in the US requires some effort.  The stinking mob demanding I pay more taxes and higher prices to fund their personal choices is fundamentally anti-American.  If they don't like it here, there are plenty of other countries who are structured more favorably to their views.  I will not support the destruction of the US  Constitution for some non-existent notion of 'fairness' and 'social justice'.

[andzigallery]

A stinking mob of puppets dancing for a powerful group of elite currency traders supported by every group and orginization who hates the US and The US Constitution.  

Just who are you talking about OWS or corporations?  No one is saying that they hate the US.  It simply not fair when people are losing their jobs; get a college education and still can not make enough to pay off their student loans; have to choose between working while they have a serious illness like cancer so that they don't lose their medical insurance; get their medical insurance cut once they are on the verge of healing; most of their life is spend working to pay off debts; and there is no reason why people should have to work themselves to an early grave.  It wasn't always like this and this is what people are fighting for.  Not because they hate America!  If you read the US Constitution it clearly begins with: "We the People of the United States..."   It says nothing about "We the Corporation/Banks of the United States."

Living in the US requires some effort.  The stinking mob demanding I pay more taxes and higher prices to fund their personal choices is fundamentally anti-American.  If they don't like it here, there are plenty of other countries who are structured more favorably to their views.  I will not support the destruction of the US  Constitution for some non-existent notion of 'fairness' and 'social justice'.

Sweetheart, you are clueless!  And yes maybe you should pay higher taxes.  And no we don't need to go to another country.  But just in case you need to know, other countries are not to thrill about what's going on in the United States.  So explain to me how for example is not having adequate health insurance, okay!  Who said anything about the destruction of the US Constitution?  As a matter of fact, after visiting Greece, I would spend up to two month out of the year just because it's more relaxing, the cost of living is cheaper, and you can go to the doctor w/o spending an arm and leg.  Also, my husband's family is from there; so I don't have to worry about hotels or anything like that.  But, since you are clueless, I'm not surprised that you would come up with an answer like that.  By the way, first amendment right, I can say whatever I want whether you like it or not!  So much for the US Constitution.  You need to reread the Bill of Rights--the first 10 amendments.

[andzigallery]

Just a thought that I'd like to share!

[Abrupt]

A stinking mob of puppets dancing for a powerful group of elite currency traders supported by every group and orginization who hates the US and The US Constitution.  

Just who are you talking about OWS or corporations?  No one is saying that they hate the US.  It simply not fair when people are losing their jobs; get a college education and still can not make enough to pay off their student loans; have to choose between working while they have a serious illness like cancer so that they don't lose their medical insurance; get their medical insurance cut once they are on the verge of healing; most of their life is spend working to pay off debts; and there is no reason why people should have to work themselves to an early grave.  It wasn't always like this and this is what people are fighting for.  Not because they hate America!  If you read the US Constitution it clearly begins with: "We the People of the United States..."   It says nothing about "We the Corporation/Banks of the United States."

Living in the US requires some effort.  The stinking mob demanding I pay more taxes and higher prices to fund their personal choices is fundamentally anti-American.  If they don't like it here, there are plenty of other countries who are structured more favorably to their views.  I will not support the destruction of the US  Constitution for some non-existent notion of 'fairness' and 'social justice'.

I wholeheartedly agree with you Joeyramone and I sense in your reply the same feelings I have about what is going on.  These OWS people would have us penniless and living in *bleep*, just so that we would be like them.  Notice they don't want an elevation of their status they want a degradation of the status of all of those above them.  You could throw a feast for them and they would question your wealth and strip you of every thread...surely if you could afford the feast you must have much more.  In their greed (what they pretend to call fairness) it never dons on their simple intellect that the feast you served didn't come from them but entirely of your efforts and that had you not provided it they would not have had it in the first place -- they should be grateful for the scraps off the plates but nope.  Someone else called them puppets and I also agree to that.   They follow some pathetic liberal methodology and it is always "me, me, me" with them.

Okay I sound angry, but when I listen to some of these people, such as andzigallery, I can only manage to shake my head and ponder how it comes to be that a person could so lose their pride and become so brainwashed into accepting defeat.  I have more respect for a burglar or a full blown robber than most of those at the OWS.  At least the thief takes the effort to actually do something to better themselves at risk of lose. 

[andzigallery]

Talking about the US Constitution:



Here something else worth sharing!

[andzigallery]

@ abrupt, Explain to me what are we going to lose that we haven't lost already!  I rest my case.   You're just as clueless as your friend!  Welcome to the club of dumb and dumber!  I can go on and on and on!  Because frankly, I don't give a damn what you think--it's a matter of opinion!  So there!

[Abrupt]

@ abrupt, Explain to me what are we going to lose that we haven't lost already!  I rest my case.   You're just as clueless as your friend!  Welcome to the club of dumb and dumber!  I can go on and on and on!  Because frankly, I don't give a damn what you think--it's a matter of opinion!  So there!

After losing pride their isn't much left to lose but it isn't a zero sum situation.  Repeat, it isn't Zero Sum!   Why can't people like you figure that out. 

That is an odd legal tactic to make an opening inquiry and then rest your case.  Surely only defeat can come from such a strategy.  But I must ask you what have you lost?  What has Wall Street taken from you?  I know the government took from us and our children and their children, but I don't recall Wall Street doing this.  It is foolish to blame the bucket for the rain you know.

Please, go on and on.  Enlighten me to the degree of my stupidity.  You obviously care enough about what I think to address me so please stipulate a bit.  You call me clueless yet you are deliberately submitting yourself as the *bleep* in another's game.  You have been deceived by the very leaders you so blindly follow to blame the very people they convinced you so desperately that it was absolutely necessary to bail out.  Aren't you even the slightest bit aware of that? 

These socialists made a strong gambit of Wall Street in their attempts to bring down capitalism.  Think about it for a bit.  They set the stage for failure through their regulations and with these same regulations they guaranteed a measure of safety.  These regulations were a deliberate interference with capitalism and thus their existence denied true capitalism.  When events finally caught up their first trap was sprung, but they realized that if things were left to follow the tenants of capitalism that the economy would rapidly (albeit somewhat painfully) correct and the problem would go away.  To prevent this they came up with this insane fear tactic play convincing everyone that it would be the end of the world if we didn't bail out Wall Street.  This was also not following the ways of capitalism and the act had nothing at all to do with capitalism.  Now in one fell swoop they made the situation multiple times worse and put us all at even more risk than initially.  Now they are behind the scenes with their jumper cables directing the same people that have supported their stupidity all along to attack the very institutions that have provided us with the majority of our wealth and freedom.  They are striking at the very heart of us and using pawns like you as their daggers.  If you were smart you would question why they want you to bring down the very structures they originally convinced you it was absolutely necessary to prop up.  I implore you to just consider the chain of events and see how it all came to pass.  Ask yourself why you are not marching on Washington instead of Wall Street.  Ask yourself, if you succeed in bringing down Wall Street, who is to gain and why the same people that wanted you to bail them out then now want you to drown them.

[hawkeye3210]

Living in the US requires some effort.  The stinking mob demanding I pay more taxes and higher prices to fund their personal choices is fundamentally anti-American.  If they don't like it here, there are plenty of other countries who are structured more favorably to their views.  I will not support the destruction of the US  Constitution for some non-existent notion of 'fairness' and 'social justice'.

Sweetheart, you are clueless!  And yes maybe you should pay higher taxes.  And no we don't need to go to another country.  But just in case you need to know, other countries are not to thrill about what's going on in the United States.  So explain to me how for example is not having adequate health insurance, okay!  Who said anything about the destruction of the US Constitution?  As a matter of fact, after visiting Greece, I would spend up to two month out of the year just because it's more relaxing, the cost of living is cheaper, and you can go to the doctor w/o spending an arm and leg.  Also, my husband's family is from there; so I don't have to worry about hotels or anything like that.  But, since you are clueless, I'm not surprised that you would come up with an answer like that.  By the way, first amendment right, I can say whatever I want whether you like it or not!  So much for the US Constitution.  You need to reread the Bill of Rights--the first 10 amendments.

Greece?  A country that is facing an even greater debt crisis than our own, can't pay off their debts, and needed to be bailed out by the EU?  I guess that would be next logically place for the "occupy" movement since they have themselves received a bailout just like our banks.  Forgive me for not wanting to adopt the same policies as a country in worse shape than our own because those same exact policies.  Drastic changes are coming to Greece.

As for the United States, 47% of Americans do not pay any federal income tax and this group is heavily represented in the OWS movement. If these programs are so important to them, maybe the should start paying some taxes as well.  Of course they aren't going to want that, because self interest is still at the heart of the debate.