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Anita6586

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Backpacks
« on: October 02, 2011, 08:13:55 am »
Should the children even be exempt from carrying the clear ones,that anyone can see inside? I understand the cloth ones, but the clear
I don't,what can you conceal?

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2011, 08:17:10 am »
Should the children even be exempt from carrying the clear ones,that anyone can see inside? I understand the cloth ones, but the clear
I don't,what can you conceal?

That's at the parents and the kids discretion on what back packs to where. I think they should make them sturdy enough for the kids with all of the books they bring home. I see alot of back packs come back as a return that are ripped inside and out. They just don't make them strong enough.

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2011, 08:19:18 am »
first backpacks, what's next

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2011, 08:20:05 am »
What do u mean whats next I am lost by your comment

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2011, 09:34:26 am »
some schools in our area have banned backpacks that are not clear...only permitting clear backpacks so they can see that they are not carrying any weapons or other prohibited items....however, finding clear backpacks is difficult...and finding clear ones that will actually hold up to all they have to carry in them for more than a month is impossible.

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2011, 01:24:14 pm »
I think thats invasion of privacy to tell you the truth. But it is what it is.

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2011, 04:28:44 pm »
Is the act of purchasing a usable back pack so distraught and complex that the school has to be involved at all? Do parents not have enough responsibility that the schools should take away every parents ability to choose the back pack they think is best for the child? People of any age who wants to carry a weapon at school will find a way to do so until all clothes are banned.

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2011, 06:57:26 am »
It should be up to the parents to decide what kind of backpack thier kid carries. I would think the school should be spending more time on falling test scores than backpacks. As someone said if someone wants to bring a weapon into school, they'll find a way. Again, that goes back to the home and parents raising kids that don't want to bring weapons to school. The more responsibility the school/state takes away from the parents, you're going to get more and more problems. It's only through holding people accountable will there ever be real change.

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2011, 04:01:39 pm »
It should be up to the parents to decide what kind of backpack thier kid carries. I would think the school should be spending more time on falling test scores than backpacks. As someone said if someone wants to bring a weapon into school, they'll find a way. Again, that goes back to the home and parents raising kids that don't want to bring weapons to school. The more responsibility the school/state takes away from the parents, you're going to get more and more problems. It's only through holding people accountable will there ever be real change.


I agree with you 100%

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2011, 05:40:00 pm »
My job requires us to carry clear bags for security reasons.  I have gone through many bags, and they just aren't sturdy enough to carry all of my stuff.  I have to carry a laptop and tablets, and every couple months I have to replace my bag.

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2011, 03:20:54 pm »
My job requires us to carry clear bags for security reasons.  I have gone through many bags, and they just aren't sturdy enough to carry all of my stuff.  I have to carry a laptop and tablets, and every couple months I have to replace my bag.

We are talking about the kids and backpacks in school.

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2011, 10:15:39 pm »
The school required the clear backpacks for security reasons. A kid could very well have a gun a knife in a back pack that is not clear. Nothing is 100%, but the clear packs certainly do help.

It is the school's responsiability to protect you child while they are at school. If they did not require the clear nack packs and your child got murdered, then you would be sueing them because they did not require the clear back packs.

I BELIEVE that ALL public schools should REQUIRE SCHOOL UNIFORMS !!

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2011, 11:04:23 am »
The school required the clear backpacks for security reasons. A kid could very well have a gun a knife in a back pack that is not clear. Nothing is 100%, but the clear packs certainly do help.

It is the school's responsiability to protect you child while they are at school. If they did not require the clear nack packs and your child got murdered, then you would be sueing them because they did not require the clear back packs.

I BELIEVE that ALL public schools should REQUIRE SCHOOL UNIFORMS !!

When does it become the parents responsibility to ensure their child wont bring a guns or knife to the school? Why should the school be sued for not forcing all parents to buy uniforms and forcing them to buy certain backpacks and not the parent of the child that actually committed the criminal act? This entire argument is based on risk vs convenience. If a school wants to eliminate the possibility of a child carrying a weapon to school and using it before they are able to locate such a weapon the school could completely ban clothing. Everyone would be forced to go to school nude. Of course the inconvenience and embarrassment is not worth the slight decrease in risk factor. The same applies to uniforms and clear backpacks. In reality both things don't do a heck of a lot to keep people from bringing a gun to school if they really want to. In fact, if a child where to bring a weapon to school they would be less conspicuous. They have a clear back pack and they are wearing a school uniform, so there is no way they can be carrying a gun to school right? And who gets to dictate what sort of back pack or what sort of clothing the child gets to wear? A divine being who is never wrong? What if the uniform that are chosen actually assist in the carry of a weapon to school. The mistake of an individual case is worth having when faced with the possibility of a widespread mistake that can cause the loss of time, money, and safety of a large number of people.

The point I am trying to get at is that even if the school does everything it can to ensure the safety of its students, there will still be the risk of a student carrying a weapon on campus. The risk alone is rather small and adding uniforms and clear backpacks may decrease the already small risk to a slightly smaller risk. It shouldn't be up to a small group of people to asses these risk (school board, government), but should be up to a large group individuals (every parent in the united states) and to balance this risk with the impact they have on society (whether or not we should allow uniforms, or forcing everyone to go to school completely naked.)


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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2011, 11:37:58 am »
I think it's a case-by-case basis though I'm adamantly against the idea of clear bags and uniforms. No matter what, if someone wants to smuggle a weapon or drugs in, they will find a way to do it. Control methods are never ever 100% effective. Considering things like the TSA can miss things http://blog.thetravelinsider.info/2011/02/tsa-agent-test-smuggles-gun-many-times-through-body-scanner.html it's ultimately just an inconvenience. Parents + Education vs needless embarrassment and safety. Take that money and sponsor things in the community to educate troublesome students on problems in the world or something.

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Re: Backpacks
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2011, 03:24:09 pm »
if we teach our children right and wrong, the only things they will have in their backpacks are books....you think?

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