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kords21

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2011, 01:19:47 pm »
If Marriage is so awesome and quite a wonderful thing according to thise anti-gay marraige people then why keep people from it? If they're so concerned about the integrity of marriage and such, then why aren't they out crusading against divorce? I personally don't care what two people do in their lives, as long as they're not hurting people or damaging other people's property who cares?

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 01:58:07 pm »
The problem is,if we're willing to except deviant behavior as the norm,where does it end?There are already rumblings of polygamy on the horizon (with shows like Sister Wives attempting to desensitize people to this new "lifestyle") I'm sure in 20 years we'll be seeing it become legal as well.

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 02:07:32 pm »
I say keep your bible thumping  :bs: to yourself.  :bootyshake:

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 02:11:39 pm »
It's amusing how any point of view is tolerated on here,except the Christian perspective. ::)

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2011, 12:59:42 am »
1. The Constitution states that there is to be a separation between church and state- therefore; laws cannot strip homosexuals the right to marry one another.

The Constitution does not say this.

I have no problem with gays having some form of a legal union that bestows upon them the same financial/etc privileges as a married man and woman.  I do have a problem with calling such a union a 'Marriage'.  Name it something else is all I ask.  The only reason I can see on the insistence of using the term 'marriage' for this union is not for the purpose of being inclusive but strictly to corrupt the traditional word 'marriage'. 


Maybe not word for word, however the first amendment does state this...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Which is a separation between church and state.

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« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2011, 07:42:43 am »
It's amusing how any point of view is tolerated on here,except the Christian perspective. ::)

Maybe if Christians weren't so adamant about shoving their beliefs down everyone's throat then their views might be more tolerated.

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2011, 08:12:22 am »
It shouldn't matter who a person falls in love with. Creating a law against it isn't going to stop them from loving each other. Just think, if they're able to marry the one they love, they won't be coming after you. Not that they would anyway. The constitution states that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL. This means blacks, whites, males, females, gays, lesbians, transgender, homosexual, and heterosexual. Stop trying to change stuff to your liking. Just because you chose to ban it, doesn't mean it will ever go away. Just let people be people. You can't stop a Christian from being Christian or the feelings one has for another, so stop trying and just accept it. If you can't accept it, ignore it. Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2011, 08:31:44 am »
I for one don't think anyone has the right to judge someone else over a sexual preference. Gays and Lesbians have the SAME rights as everyone else. I am so tired of hearing negative stuff about this.

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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2011, 09:05:34 am »
As a gay male.  I believe in my god.  As for it being a sin.  I don't agree with it.  God wants everyone to love everyone know matter what.  Be treated the way you'd want to be treated no matter the sexual orientation.  I love everyone.  I have many straight friends.  More straight guy friends then straight girl friends at that.  The straight men love us gay men.  We have all the ladies...Just sayin'.   But everyone has there own opinion.

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« Reply #24 on: September 09, 2011, 09:34:43 am »
Maybe not word for word, however the first amendment does state this...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
Which is a separation between church and state.

That doesn't sound like separation of church and state to me.  That sounds like instruction to congress to not pass any laws prohibiting religion or favoring any specific religion.  The language is interesting in the way it is written in that it is very adamant in regards to "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."  If I cannot pray in public (not that I generally have such tendencies for prayer is mostly personal to me) because of laws then obviously I am being prohibited from doing this.  This same reasoning applies to my praying in any place and at any time within US controlled borders or territories.
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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2011, 10:30:20 am »
Everyone has a right to live their lives as they see  fit.  Who are you to judge anyones lifetime?  Who made you God?  No ones life is perfect, so take care of your business and stop thinking of yourself as a saint.
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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2011, 10:48:01 am »
As average Americans we hate when the government says we can't do the things we want. Gay and lesbian marriage is no different. For all those against it, just think how you would fee if someone told you that you couldn't fulfill one or your constitutional rights such as voting. It is no different. All people have the right to the pursuit of happiness. If getting hitched is what makes a person happy then constitutionally they have every right to do just that whether it is same sex or not. People need to stop putting their beliefs on others. If you choose to see it as wrong that is your choice, however, that does NOT mean the whole world or country needs to follow your beliefs. Look at all the rights black people fought for as well as all the rights women fought for. Black people were once thought of as ungodly and evil. Women thought of as unintelligent and lowly. What was the ultimate realization? That all men and women are created equal in god's eyes. Gay and lesbian people are no different. For all those who are fighting this tooth and nail I have one thing to say to you. Get over it, its here and its not gonna change because of your ignorance. 

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2011, 11:25:14 am »
One of the biggest problems our country has right now is that many people try to read things into the Constitution that simply aren't there. This is one of those instances. Another problem that people have with gay marriage is that in some states the courts are ruling whether it's legal or not. Most judges are appointed. That is wrong. If a state is going to legalize marriage, then it should be decided by the people of a state, or through their elected representatives. So you can understand a little better why people who are against gay marriage feel like they're being forced to accept something that don't agree with. They haven't been given the opportunity to make the decision in the ballot box.

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2011, 12:49:02 pm »
It's amusing how any point of view is tolerated on here,except the Christian perspective. ::)

Maybe if Christians weren't so adamant about shoving their beliefs down everyone's throat then their views might be more tolerated.


So Christians are supposed to readily except deviant behavior as being "normal",but non-believers can't tolerate  a strong opposing opinion.Sounds like a double standard to me.

Regardless,I maintain.....if you want to take a deviant practice that has been forbidden by every religion for centuries and make it an excepted lifestyle,than you're going to have to except polygamy.If a guy wants 8 wives and 56 kids,it's none of our business.And why not incestuous marriages?A guy and his goldfish?Who are we to judge?

The fact is morality is not decided by public opinion,but by the Word of God. :wave:

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Re: The Fight Against Same -Sex Marriages
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2011, 01:09:16 pm »
Are christians supposed to readily tolerate deviant behavior? First off I was raised catholic and if I remember right the bible has a passage that says judge not lest ye be judged. If gay and lesbian marriage is so against god then who on earth is to judge that. Answer: no one. So all the "christians" that are so against it are going against their religion as well as their belief that homosexuals are sinning. Like the one post said you can't force your beliefs of right and wrong on other people. What difference does it make if someone chooses to sleep with the same sex? you are not going to pay for their sins (if it even is one considering there is homosexuality even in the animal kingdom). People should worry more about what is going on behind their own closed doors before the worry about somebody else.

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