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[Falconer02]

As Yahweh's holy people, Israel must conduct warfare in a way pleasing to him

Then you've admitted he's ludicrously malevolent to the point where one could conclude he has a pain fetish.

God ordered the herem, the complete destruction of cities, to avoid the corruption of his people

That sounds like another famous tyrannical monster in recent history.

First, the Canaanites were not going to change for the better,

This is just another contradiction to the basic laws of free will. It's like saying "Despite slow-moving international pressure, I know Iran is never going to change their view of the world, so it's completely alright to nuke them now."

[JediJohnnie]

Dueteronomy 20 10-14
10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. 11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. 12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.

 Military conduct/theology of God's people (20:1-20)

As Yahweh's holy people, Israel must conduct warfare in a way pleasing to him. Holy warfare by Israel is described in this chapter as warfare in which only the will of Yahweh is to be done in the war.

The taking of Canaan from its inhabitants was not to be a land grab by a group of land-hungry descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Yahweh was giving it to Israel to fulfill his promises to the patriarchs. This holy war had a theological purpose. It was the fulfilling of Yahweh's promises, which involved establishment of an ethical-religious community of God's people in the land and judgment of the Canaanites through Israel. War from this perspective by God's people is not possible today. Nor are God's people commanded to destroy their political, military, or religious enemies, but to love them. Because Yahweh conducted this war as a warrior (Ex 15:3, 7; see Lind) the biblical writer approves of it. God himself was involved with his people in the war to conquer Canaan.

God ordered the herem, the complete destruction of cities, to avoid the corruption of his people (vv. 16-18). This provision was necessary for two reasons.

First, the Canaanites were not going to change for the better, for Yahweh had allowed their cup of iniquity to become full (Ge 15:16). Later, because of its ethical-religious corruption under wicked kings, Israel would be treated no differently. When its cup of iniquity was full, God cast Israel out of the land to be punished by Assyrians and Babylonians.

Second, Israel was especially vulnerable at the early stages of her history, and the importance of impressing the people with the grave consequences of ethical-religious corruption in the land of the Amorites needed to be made. God's stringent procedures against Ananias and Sapphira at the outset of the new covenant people (Acts 5:1-11) closely parallels the principle of Dt 20. Because distant cities did not pose the threat of immediate ethical-religious contamination, they were not placed under the herem for complete destruction. Israel's conduct of war had to be carried out within the parameters of holy war prescribed by Yahweh and Yahweh alone.

Asbury Bible Commentary

  Of course,anybody who's read the Bible even in a cursitory manner,should have been able to derive this.

[Falconer02]

Of course,anybody who's read the Bible even in a cursitory manner,should have been able to derive this

Blind faith making something absolutely horrible seem alright? Correct I suppose. Again you exert your extremely immoral behavior.

[falcon9]

Of course,anybody who's read the Bible even in a cursitory manner,should have been able to derive this.

There's no such thing as a "cursitory manner", (unless that's the "manner" of cursors, which has a completely different contextual meaning from "cursory manner").

[JediJohnnie]

In your blind hatred for the Bible,you'll look for any verse to twist to suit your purpose.


I figure I might as well also point out verse 12 "If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city." God obviously still being a God of peace still gave them a chance for a peacefull solution.

I suggest you bring up these verses in the D&D,since your fellow bird-friend already pollutes this thread with enough arguing.

[Falconer02]

In your blind hatred for the Bible,you'll look for any verse to twist to suit your purpose.

How am I twisted verses? I quoted your ancient texts word-for-word, and you tried to defend immoral behavior. Might I remind you that you're defending horrific military actions now. This is not a new trend for you though, so I'm not really surprised. Speaking of which, did you buy any new slaves recently? If so, did you beat the unruly ones yet?

[falcon9]

In your blind hatred for the Bible,you'll look for any verse to twist to suit your purpose.

Conversely, in your blind faith, you've overlooked that such "verses" come from the same collection of specious religious hearsay as you religious adherents are cherry-picking.

I suggest you bring up these verses in the D&D,since your fellow bird-friend already pollutes this thread with enough arguing.

As iterated before, the Off Topic forum is not some sort of 'protected reserve' for unopposed religious evangelizing/proselytization and therefore, will be opposed here, (or in Off Topic's subforum of D&D), if someone chooses to do so.  Your suggestion either applies to your evangelizing "pollution" too or, doesn't apply in a one-way fasion.

[JediJohnnie]

So much for atheist logic.lol

[falcon9]

So much for atheist logic.lol

So much for blind faithers' illogic; failure to substantiate religious claims of supernatural entities and relying upon irrational belief instead of logic.

[jcribb16]

In your blind hatred for the Bible,you'll look for any verse to twist to suit your purpose.


I figure I might as well also point out verse 12 "If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city." God obviously still being a God of peace still gave them a chance for a peacefull solution.

I suggest you bring up these verses in the D&D,since your fellow bird-friend already pollutes this thread with enough arguing.

For those who dis-believe, they sure make a big to do over a "non-existent" god to them.

Thanks, too, for adding your comments.  There is the "back" story that needs to be understood, instead of just quoting only part of the account of that.  That means, too, that reading the Bible from the beginning, in the Old Testament, tells and includes the missing pieces of the puzzle, as to the full story.

[falcon9]

For those who dis-believe, they sure make a big to do over a "non-existent" god to them.

For those who choose to believe in an unsubstantiated supernatural entity and further, in unfounded superstitious religious assumptions related to such an entity, they sure do evangelize excessively about it, (thus presenting the option to oppose such irrationalities so often).

[JediJohnnie]

1 Corinthians 2:1-5
 And so it was with me, brothers and sisters. When I came to you, I did not come with eloquence or human wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God. For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.I came to you in weakness with great fear and trembling. My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, so that your faith might not rest on human wisdom, but on God’s power.


 

[jcribb16]

"Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue."

~ Proverbs 17:28 (NIV) ~



"The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever."

~ Isaiah 40:8  (NIV) ~



I hope everyone had a great Monday, and will continue to have a nice week! 

[falcon9]

"Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue."

Yet, the bible-thumpers do not keep silent , thus removing all doubt about their foolishness.

[jcribb16]

"Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue."

Yet, the bible-thumpers do not keep silent , thus removing all doubt about their foolishness.

Why should believers have to stay silent when sharing something we enjoy with others who would or might enjoy the same?  That's not what the verse means.  Standing up for or defending my beliefs does not meant I have to stay silent as well.  Losing my temper, cursing, and being downright ugly, is where it would be "not" discerning and not holding one's tongue.  Including following one everywhere they go just to be ugly; starting strife, etc.  Perhaps you should check your own foolishness before worrying about others' foolishness, or what you deem foolishness (which may or may not be the same to others.)  P.S.  In no way am I "telling" you what to do, before you try and go there, again.