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alexism0m

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Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« on: July 26, 2011, 07:25:31 pm »
I just believe our economy is in such a fragile position right now and everyone wanted to make such a change in history to vote a black man however even though when he made his speeches and told up the things he was going to achieve we were all hoping he could achieve all of them with the prices of everything the taxes the healthcare system everything for the seniors disability etc... but to be honest he's been in the white house now for almost 4 years now and he's *bleep* is almost done i'm sure never voting him back in again he's done nothign he's planned on doing and in turn our economy has fell in debt more than 800 million dollars and how else are we going to be able to recover that that means its going to bite every one in the *bleep* with taxes and everyone that works and does what they are suppose to can barely even get by with the paychecks they get to put a roof over there head with the taxes they take out noone wants to raise the minimum hourly rate and noone wants to hire anyone its no wonder more people aren't on the streets you need to credit to do everything now a days but if you can't afford to pay anything how are you suppose to have a roof over your head food in you stomach let alone anything else now they are coming out with auto insurance are starting to do credit checks on you seriously like this is crazy they need to find another alternative besides a bus for transportation to help us out like transportation assistance if those that are on ebt foodstamps or medicaid that way they can get to work and back as it is it doesn't cost that much but it would help out a lot of people and now they are starting to makign others eligible for foodstamps now do drugs testing even though thats going to be really expensive i totally agree too many people are taking advantage of those benefits and everyone else is paying for it i hope all of you agree with me and together obama will be done after 2012 and we can put this country back together one step at a time

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 07:35:23 pm »
First off, who else could have done better? Second, things like the oil spill in the gulf and actions in the middle east have delayed certain things. I agree the hype of "the first black president" contributed to his success, but how is he any different from any other politician when it comes to fulfilling promises?  Obama has does as much good as possible with tea partyers constantly denying him everything he has tried to do.  Obama has been so disrespected as a president, and if Republicans can't make nice in public, just imagine how they treat him off the record.
Obama is not destroying the country. He is attempting to fill the cracks Bush left. And there are lots of them. I'm not saying he has done a fantastic job as president, but who could have done better, and how should we expect him to get things done if Congress refuses to give a little bit?
I've never been a fan of partisanship, and this term is a perfect example of how politicians say "This is a more liberal bill. I say no," and vice versa.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 08:26:21 pm »
yes he is like alot like of others they......... lie

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 09:22:06 pm »
he has done more to destory this country than any one else has done. I think he won't to be the king over us.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 09:30:53 pm »
he has done more to destory this country than any one else has done.

LOL Are you serious? That's a pretty BROAD statement. Surely you must be exaggerating just a little. Please elaborate.....

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2011, 05:25:13 am »
Obama id doing what he can with what he got. If another person was president they would have failed more miserably.

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2011, 07:01:01 am »
The worst President in history.  A complete fraud.  Now we are on the brink of financial disaster and his incompetence is out in the open for all to see.  He spent $4 trillion of our dollars in 30 months and managed to raise the unemployment rate to 9.2%.  Inflation is up.  Energy prices are up.  Property prices still falling.  Commodities prices are up.  real wages are falling.  Food stamp consumption at an all time high.  Etc, etc, etc...

Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 07:36:49 am »
The worst President in history.  A complete fraud.  Now we are on the brink of financial disaster and his incompetence is out in the open for all to see.  He spent $4 trillion of our dollars in 30 months and managed to raise the unemployment rate to 9.2%.  Inflation is up.  Energy prices are up.  Property prices still falling.  Commodities prices are up.  real wages are falling.  Food stamp consumption at an all time high.  Etc, etc, etc...

Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

This.
 I'm sure President Obama is a pleasant man. I don't have anything against him personally. But you can see that he is out there trying to scare seniors and our military members. The law says that the government must pay for Social Security and military pay, and the money that pays for them has nothing to do with the debt ceiling. The August 2 deadline? It's made-up. Obama has a birthday party and campaign fundraiser the next day in Chicago. The Federal Reserve and government agencies now admit that we have at least two or three more months to find a solution without closing down the government. August 2 will come and go without the world ending. Do some research for yourselves, people.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 07:44:15 am »
First off, who else could have done better? Second, things like the oil spill in the gulf and actions in the middle east have delayed certain things. I agree the hype of "the first black president" contributed to his success, but how is he any different from any other politician when it comes to fulfilling promises?  Obama has does as much good as possible with tea partyers constantly denying him everything he has tried to do.  Obama has been so disrespected as a president, and if Republicans can't make nice in public, just imagine how they treat him off the record.
Obama is not destroying the country. He is attempting to fill the cracks Bush left. And there are lots of them. I'm not saying he has done a fantastic job as president, but who could have done better, and how should we expect him to get things done if Congress refuses to give a little bit?
I've never been a fan of partisanship, and this term is a perfect example of how politicians say "This is a more liberal bill. I say no," and vice versa.

There was a BI-PARTISAN bill passed by the House a couple days ago. It had Republican and Democratic votes in the House. You might have heard of it-- it's called Cut, Cap and Balance.  The Republicans voted to raise the debt ceiling in C,C & B.  It went to the Senate, and Harry Reid used a Parliamentary trick to kill it. There was no debate allowed, no chance for amendment. If the Senate doesn't like the Balanced Budget Amendment which is along with it, they could argue against it and try to take it out. But it wasn't allowed to be debated, because it scares liberals to death that polls show that most Americans are in favor of our government restraining its massive spending binge. Do you want your government to end up like Amy Winehouse? (too soon?)

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2011, 09:06:48 am »
The people destroying the country are ourselves, not one man. The sooner the whole country realizes that, the better. Even GWB didn't destroy it, tons of others did. Granted, he was an idiot and didn't do anything to fix the situation back then. However, I think we're in a slightly better spot than we were back in '08.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2011, 10:06:13 am »
If Congress and the Senate would stop fighting him and work with him things would get better.  He took over a mess from the last Presidency and he is fighting an uphill battle to fix it.  We are in this mess because of the past President.  If you would check your history you would see that quite a few Presidents in their first term have had to fix the messes of the last President.  I am proud we finally got over our racism enough to vote for a black president.  I have lived with racism all my life because I am a minority (Native American) and it gives those of us who deal with racism a hope that we will prevail against racism.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2011, 10:17:34 am »
It's not him..its the government!


who agrees?  :thumbsup:


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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2011, 11:23:00 am »
It's not him..its the government!


who agrees?  :thumbsup:

I agree. It is a government that feels that it can spend money without regard to whether it should be spending that money or how it plans to pay for that spending. Whether that is because of a massive prescription drug program from the previous administration, a business-unfriendly energy plan of the current administration, or increased military spending by both administrations, government as a whole has just been spending our money recklessly.

The 8/2 deadline is not as bad as an actual default.... The government still takes in more money than it owes to its creditors; it just would mean that the treasury would have to prioritize whether to pay towards our debts or to pay other expenses without going above our current debt ceiling. A true default, on the other hand, is when the government cannot pay towards their debts let alone towards any other expenses. When the crediting agencies are warning about lowering our credit rating, it doesn't necessarily mean that we need to increase this debt-limit; if the treasury chooses to default on some loans in place of not paying other obligations, then the agency may lower our rating because of the strategic default. But the agencies are more concerned about the way the government is handling its finances as a whole. The chairman of the S&P made an announcement today indicating that this is the idea behind the warnings that we've been hearing lately. Even if we increase the debt limit but do nothing to curb our spending, the debt will continue to increase and the financial status of our country will continue to go downhill. It is this that the lending agencies are most worried about.

To help make this make sense, just think about your own credit score... Let's say that you had racked up a bunch of debt: a house mortgage, car payments, student loans, credit cards, etc. As long as you continue to pay towards these debts, your rating won't go down. However what happens if you start to incur a deficit in your finances; you have to take an unpaid leave of absence from work to deal with a death in your family. You may still have enough money to cover all of your debt (and thus wouldn't have to default on your loans), but you have other obligations that you also need to cover (eg food, gas, cable, other utilities, etc.) You may then need to get another loan to help with the short-term financial problems: take out a personal loan, get a second mortgage, ask for an increase in the credit limit of your current credit cards. This is how us people increase our debt limit. Now doing such an increase may put a small hit on your credit score, but as long as this is just a temporary deficit, it won't hurt you too much. But lets say that your deficit is incurred by spending more than you can afford: you go out to eat for all of your meals, you get a mortgage for a mansion, you party at the nightclubs, etc. And you continue to ask for debt-limit increases (again either by additional loans or by increasing the limits on the loans you currently have). Eventually the bank or credit card will look at your deficit spending and will drop your credit score as a result; even if you are somehow able to pay towards the debt you hold, your reckless spending will cause credit agencies to begin questioning whether you'll be able to do so in the future and thus will lower your credit rating as a result. When that happens you have to start seriously looking at your own spending habits and cut back on the wasteful spending, or go broke by defaulting on your loans.

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Re: Who else thinks obama is destroying our country ??
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2011, 12:15:17 pm »
I think Alexism0m is crazy, you are so disrepectful he is President Obama and he is not destroying our country.  The country is already destroyed by the past presidents (The Bushes).  How in the world do YOU and everyone else expect him to clean up that pile of S_it they left behind, he cannot destroy the country, he is trying to fix it, but no one wants to help, they want him to fail as the first Black President.  If I were him I would let you people have it and see how much better the country would be.  There are jobs out there but they won't hire anyone so he can look bad.  I say the He_ _ with it all.

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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2011, 12:19:36 pm »
You people sound foolish to try and put everything on Obama. Do u think you could have done better? After all We would still be in a mess if Obama was not in office. You have got to be to kiddin me. This have been going on for years!!! Wake up!!! Let GOd be your provider and your source not Obama or the government.

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