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Re: who came first?
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2011, 08:48:29 pm »
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Only if you take the time to be literal 24 hours instead of millenia(2 Peter 3:

"I know! I'll make it so my followers will have to jump thousands of years into the future just to make sense of my beginning technicalities! BRILLIANT!"

The fact that you had to decypher that shows how utterly poor that book is constructed. That, and you're displaying 2-dimensional thinking.

Some of your comments remind me of youtubers flaming a video they didn't like, I love that about you  :)

Far more then a few millenia I believe after all these are the fringes of his ways(Job 26:14), even if it wasn't supernatural fairy(in your eyes), wouldn't you want something that you can never stop learning about? If your as smart as I think you are you'll probably know everything about science before you die. Please define 2-dimensional thinking.

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Re: who came first?
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2011, 12:54:09 pm »
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Some of your comments remind me of youtubers flaming a video they didn't like, I love that about you  

Well I have done that afew times before.

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Far more then a few millenia I believe after all these are the fringes of his ways(Job 26:14), even if it wasn't supernatural fairy(in your eyes), wouldn't you want something that you can never stop learning about?

If one is to never stop learning about the bible, there is a specific point where the student must realize it is a work of fiction. Without that aspect, the student limits themselves to a narrow thought process and cannot learn beyond the constraints of the ancient texts; the student must come out of the box and study it from above in order to understand it more.

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If your as smart as I think you are you'll probably know everything about science before you die.

Science is constantly and forever sharpening it's views of the universe, so this is impossible to do.

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Please define 2-dimensional thinking.

A very narrow thought process that lacks the attention of other factors in play. It diminishes opportunities. An example-

"It's either coke is the best or it's pepsi. I don't care about the other drinks-- I haven't tried them, but they don't count."
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Re: who came first?
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2011, 01:44:23 pm »
The first chicken came out of an egg. That's like asking if the baby or adult came first.

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Re: who came first?
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2011, 08:47:11 pm »
The Chicken first!  :confused1:

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Re: who came first?
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2011, 09:15:04 pm »
The chicken came first. Biblical terms He made the fowls of the air (Chicken).
Fact: A chicken's egg needs to be hatched so the hen (Chicken) usually sits on it
to produce heat in order for it to be hatched. Simply put there had to be a chicken first
to lay and to hatch the egg.
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Re: who came first?
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2011, 06:26:38 pm »
 :fish: it is simple , the animals evolved from small bacteria in the water. to become dinosaurs and i guess chickens so i think the chicken came first

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Re: who came first?
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2011, 08:00:12 pm »
:fish: it is simple , the animals evolved from small bacteria in the water. to become dinosaurs and i guess chickens so i think the chicken came first


Do you really believe all that you just said? Have you ever heard of or seen anyone or anything, even worst would you eat anything created from bacteria?
Never the less you're free to your opinion I'm just asking if bacteria could make such instinctive, constructive and continuous creations and with so much bacteria around today why aren't there anymore dinosaurs etc.
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Re: who came first?
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2011, 09:21:52 pm »
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Do you really believe all that you just said?

No offense to abdyer2001 but that's an extremely dull example that leaves out a lot on evolutionary traits.

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Have you ever heard of or seen anyone or anything, even worst would you eat anything created from bacteria

Yogurt, Kefir, Sauerkraut, Pickled Ginger, Wine+Beer, Sourdough Bread, Olives, Lysine, Dill Pickles, and Soy Sauce are all created from bacteria.

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I'm just asking if bacteria could make such instinctive, constructive and continuous creations and with so much bacteria around today why aren't there anymore dinosaurs etc.

1.) Start here and educate yourself- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokaryote
2.) A gigantic asteroid smacked what we know as the Yucatan peninsula along with massive climate change (most likely triggered by volcanism + the asteroid) killed off about 95% of species on the earth. This is inarguable since the fossil record shows this gap all over the world, though there are a few other theories that could be argued. Those 2 are the most unanimous since there is ample proof of these things happening. Mammals were lucky enough to survive, slowly evolved, and here we are now.
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Re: who came first?
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2011, 01:15:24 am »
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Do you really believe all that you just said?

No offense to abdyer2001 but that's an extremely dull example that leaves out a lot on evolutionary traits.

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Have you ever heard of or seen anyone or anything, even worst would you eat anything created from bacteria

Yogurt, Kefir, Sauerkraut, Pickled Ginger, Wine+Beer, Sourdough Bread, Olives, Lysine, Dill Pickles, and Soy Sauce are all created from bacteria.

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I'm just asking if bacteria could make such instinctive, constructive and continuous creations and with so much bacteria around today why aren't there anymore dinosaurs etc.

1.) Start here and educate yourself- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prokaryote
2.) A gigantic asteroid smacked what we know as the Yucatan peninsula along with massive climate change (most likely triggered by volcanism + the asteroid) killed off about 95% of species on the earth. This is inarguable since the fossil record shows this gap all over the world, though there are a few other theories that could be argued. Those 2 are the most unanimous since there is ample proof of these things happening. Mammals were lucky enough to survive, slowly evolved, and here we are now.


Wasn't it mammilian precursers which were lucky enough to survive the impact's effects and mutate into various species over time?
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Re: who came first?
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2011, 08:37:02 pm »
I like the logic of the dinosaurs and the eggs. I'll go with egg and say that the chicken is a mutant. LOL

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Re: who came first?
« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2011, 09:50:25 pm »
I like the logic of the dinosaurs and the eggs. I'll go with egg and say that the chicken is a mutant. LOL


Well, if that logic is followed then some chicken-like dinosauric precurser laid eggs and some of the hatchlings' DNA mutated into a more fowl-like critter over time. Eventually, those critters laid eggs which hatched as chicks.  Therefore, the dinosaur came before the chicken egg.  Heh.
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Re: who came first?
« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2011, 10:01:44 pm »
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Wasn't it mammilian precursers which were lucky enough to survive the impact's effects and mutate into various species over time?

>.< *slaps head*  That's true! It totally skipped my mind. Thank you for the correction.

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Re: who came first?
« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2011, 10:24:15 pm »
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Wasn't it mammilian precursers which were lucky enough to survive the impact's effects and mutate into various species over time?

>.< *slaps head*  That's true! It totally skipped my mind. Thank you for the correction.



No wonder all those mutations 'taste just like chicken'?
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Re: who came first?
« Reply #58 on: October 31, 2011, 11:13:28 am »
I believe God created the chicken first. Just as God created the first people as fully grown humans, so he created the chicken as fully grown, capable of laying eggs.

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Re: who came first?
« Reply #59 on: October 31, 2011, 05:18:00 pm »
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A gigantic asteroid smacked what we know as the Yucatan peninsula along with massive climate change (most likely triggered by volcanism + the asteroid) killed off about 95% of species on the earth. This is inarguable since the fossil record shows this gap all over the world, though there are a few other theories that could be argued. Those 2 are the most unanimous since there is ample proof of these things happening. Mammals were lucky enough to survive, slowly evolved, and here we are now.


Wasn't it mammilian precursers which were lucky enough to survive the impact's effects and mutate into various species over time?
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"Oh I almost forgot that EVOLUTION fell from the sky, Just kidding pardon my sly remark." When a scientific principle invades even grammar school, it has long since passed the stage of theory to established fact so I won't argue this one even thought it arouses a bit of questioning; the sudden way in which so many species disappeared point towards a cataclysmic event and the crater in the Yucatan Peninsula is said to be proof.
Well Increasingly, in a perverse twist of science new results became to be judged by how well they supported the impact hypothesis, rather than how well they tested it
But don't take my word for it read and judge for yourself. Checkout this study from the Geological Society 
http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/gsl/geoscientist/features/keller/page7668.html

Another thing only "mammalian precursors" were lucky enough to survive the impact right? I'd think you were referring to the platypus and the echidna am I right? But seeing that the chicken is a completely different vertebrate from mammals are they some additional form of meteoric evolution?

Now don't get me wrong, I am in no wise attempting to be rude. I'm just asking these questions seeing that you seem to posses a more in-depth understanding in the study of Paleontology.


 
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