is the world coming to an end?

[teflonfanatic]

All the prophecies in the Bible have come true

Which?

Even the most skeptical person has to admit the most dominant Governments in human history match the description of fragile yet strong as iron in the verses below.

 38 and into whose hand he has given, wherever the sons of mankind are dwelling, the beasts of the field and the winged creatures of the heavens, and whom he has made ruler over all of them, you yourself are the head of gold.

39 “And after you there will rise another kingdom inferior to you; and another kingdom, a third one, of copper, that will rule over the whole earth.

40 “And as for the fourth kingdom, it will prove to be strong like iron. Forasmuch as iron is crushing and grinding everything else, so, like iron that shatters, it will crush and shatter even all these.

41 “And whereas you beheld the feet and the toes to be partly of molded clay of a potter and partly of iron, the kingdom itself will prove to be divided, but somewhat of the hardness of iron will prove to be in it, forasmuch as you beheld the iron mixed with moist clay. 42 And as for the toes of the feet being partly of iron and partly of molded clay, the kingdom will partly prove to be strong and will partly prove to be fragile. 43 Whereas you beheld iron mixed with moist clay, they will come to be mixed with the offspring of mankind; but they will not prove to be sticking together, this one to that one, just as iron is not mixing with molded clay.(Daniel 2:38:43)

[Falconer02]

Even the most skeptical person has to admit the most dominant Governments in human history match the description of fragile yet strong as iron in the verses below.

You do understand that these aren't prophecies at all, right? A prophecy needs specific names of things and people, needs precise dates, and detailed explanations of things to come.  What you have is a self-fulfilling prophecy and a ridiculously vague one seeing how it's using primitive examples like copper and animals.

SF prophecy = a prophecy declared as truth when it is actually false may sufficiently influence people, either through fear or logical confusion, so that their reactions ultimately fulfill the once-false prophecy.

The self-fulfilling prophecy is, in the beginning, a false definition of the situation evoking a new behaviour which makes the original false conception come 'true'. This specious validity of the self-fulfilling prophecy perpetuates a reign of error. For the prophet will cite the actual course of events as proof that he was right from the very beginning

This is how you should learn to interpret things as prophecies- Let's pretend it's August 2001 and I told you that there would be a large attack in New York in September. Would that be a prophecy once 9/11 came around? No! I didn't tell you anything but that an attack would happen. It could have been some no-name gang fight, a car bombing, or a sports riot. If I were to tell you 2 planes would crash in NY, that still wouldn't make it a prophecy because I didn't specify anything at all above that. It could have been 2 Cessnas with drunk pilots.

If I had said it was Al-Queda, had the flight numbers, the names of the people on the flights along with the terrorist's names, what buildings they would hit, who would die in the buildings, what time it would happen precisely, which fire fighters would arrive first, and that Bush wouldn't respond immediately to the disaster, then it could be a prophecy. I would have had precise information that nobody could have predicted or aligned perfectly with what happened. Specific information is required for a prophecy, and the bible has none. Read them again and apply what I've written here. They're vague and nonsensical.

[teflonfanatic]

Even the most skeptical person has to admit the most dominant Governments in human history match the description of fragile yet strong as iron in the verses below.

You do understand that these aren't prophecies at all, right? A prophecy needs specific names of things and people, needs precise dates, and detailed explanations of things to come.  What you have is a self-fulfilling prophecy and a ridiculously vague one seeing how it's using primitive examples like copper and animals.

SF prophecy = a prophecy declared as truth when it is actually false may sufficiently influence people, either through fear or logical confusion, so that their reactions ultimately fulfill the once-false prophecy.

The self-fulfilling prophecy is, in the beginning, a false definition of the situation evoking a new behaviour which makes the original false conception come 'true'. This specious validity of the self-fulfilling prophecy perpetuates a reign of error. For the prophet will cite the actual course of events as proof that he was right from the very beginning

This is how you should learn to interpret things as prophecies- Let's pretend it's August 2001 and I told you that there would be a large attack in New York in September. Would that be a prophecy once 9/11 came around? No! I didn't tell you anything but that an attack would happen. It could have been some no-name gang fight, a car bombing, or a sports riot. If I were to tell you 2 planes would crash in NY, that still wouldn't make it a prophecy because I didn't specify anything at all above that. It could have been 2 Cessnas with drunk pilots.

If I had said it was Al-Queda, had the flight numbers, the names of the people on the flights along with the terrorist's names, what buildings they would hit, who would die in the buildings, what time it would happen precisely, which fire fighters would arrive first, and that Bush wouldn't respond immediately to the disaster, then it could be a prophecy. I would have had precise information that nobody could have predicted or aligned perfectly with what happened. Specific information is required for a prophecy, and the bible has none. Read them again and apply what I've written here. They're vague and nonsensical.

You come up with a better description for future events 4,000 years ago!!!!!!!!  I also don't see how self fulfilling prophecies is not prophecy.

[debrabassler]

No I DON'T THINK THE WORLD IS ENDING. BUT I DO THINK MOTHER NATURE IS GETTING BACK  AT WHAT MAN HAS DONE TO THE EARTH AND SENDING THOUGHS SHUTTLES UP.
I CAN SEE IMPROVING SOMETHINGS,BUT DON'T MISS WITH MOTHER NATURE

[carriebudd]

All the prophecies in the Bible have come true

Which?

There are scores of prophecies in the Bible about the Christ being born. A man, named Jesus, fulfilled every single one of those prophecies written about him and literally there are hundreds. Where he would be born, which town, which tribe of Israel he would be born into, which part of Isreal he would be from, how he would act, the manner in which he would die....no one could have or did fulfill all these prophecies. And there is substantial historical evidence that they were written far before he was born to earth, and evidence that he was, in fact, a real person.

The example of Jesusmis just one, albeit the best, example of prophecies in the Bible being faithfully fulfilled. But there are many more. Some we have yet to experience.

[ninajay]

yes, i believe the world is coming to an end. black males are going to be put in FEMA camps and killied

What are you talking about?? 

[Falconer02]

You come up with a better description for future events 4,000 years ago!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't in the first place because I'm not a superstitious fearmongering dunce looking to sway gullibles.

I also don't see how self fulfilling prophecies is not prophecy

Did you even read my example? let me cut it down for you-
"There's gonna be an attack in NY next month!"
"Really? By who? Where? When exactly? Why? Will people die?"
"OMG LOOK THEY HIT THE WTC! IT'S GONE! IM A PROPHET!"
"Uhhh...No. You're not."

I can take any of the biblical "prophecies" you posted and align them with practically anything and anywhere in the past and/or present in the same respect. Every single one I could write up would fall under a self-fulfilled prophecy.

There are scores of prophecies in the Bible about the Christ being born. A man, named Jesus, fulfilled every single one of those prophecies written about him and literally there are hundreds. Where he would be born, which town, which tribe of Israel he would be born into, which part of Isreal he would be from, how he would act, the manner in which he would die....no one could have or did fulfill all these prophecies. And there is substantial historical evidence that they were written far before he was born to earth, and evidence that he was, in fact, a real person.

The example of Jesusmis just one, albeit the best, example of prophecies in the Bible being faithfully fulfilled. But there are many more. Some we have yet to experience.

You do know that the whole Jesus story follows a mythical quest pattern, right? http://department.monm.edu/classics/courses/clas230/mythdocuments/heropattern/default.htm  How can you trust something that's so obviously fake? Post some historical evidences if you have some.

[SCarter984]

yes, i believe the world is coming to an end. black males are going to be put in FEMA camps and killied

What are you talking about?? 

Yeah, wth?  People need to get a clue.  We are living in the end times - period dot.  Color has NOTHING to do with it.  If we don't wake up and clean up our act we will ALL be in FEMA camps.  Come on Sheeple!  Open your eyes!

[ricky981]

The world won't just "come to an end"......... "MAN" will destroy it!   

  slowly but surely it is. you can the signs of times happening now with a little help of self destruct.

[letuu15]

true but really

[teflonfanatic]

The world won't just "come to an end"......... "MAN" will destroy it!   

  slowly but surely it is. you can the signs of times happening now with a little help of self destruct.

Yes it's all a self fulfilling prophecy (sarcasm)

[Falconer02]

Yes it's all a self fulfilling prophecy (sarcasm)

I've given you plenty of proof that they are. Take your head out of the sand for a moment. Or don't-- you've got the right to be a major problem with the world.

[teflonfanatic]

Yes it's all a self fulfilling prophecy (sarcasm)

I've given you plenty of proof that they are. Take your head out of the sand for a moment. Or don't-- you've got the right to be a major problem with the world.

Here's some "pseudo" science for ya. The Spanish flu killed 20% of the world's population in 1918, it was the biggest death from pestilence ever recorded. World war 1 and 2 combined had more people killed then all the wars since the beginning of time!!!

[Falconer02]

Here's some "pseudo" science for ya. The Spanish flu killed 20% of the world's population in 1918, it was the biggest death from pestilence ever recorded. World war 1 and 2 combined had more people killed then all the wars since the beginning of time!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

"Between 50 and 100 million died"
"Even using the lower estimate of 50 million people, 8% of the world's population (1.8 billion at the time[9]), died of the disease. Some 550 million, or 32% (¡Ö1/4) were infected."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics

Let's say you lived between 1338-1351. Bubonic plague kills over 100 million people. That's not including other parts of the world like it sprouting up in China. There were an estimated 300 million people on the planet then, so that's over 33% and that's a much larger percentage than the future death tolls. And look at the Plague of Justinian! That was in the year 541!
Aside from all of this, you could compare your vague prophecies to diseases and wars back then. So yeah- what you stated was partial pseudoscience and you've again demonstrated self-fulfilling prophecies. If in the near future there is a plague and/or a big war, I could bet a lot of money that religion would use that as the next SF prophecy.

Considering there have been hundreds of deadly plagues and diseases throughout history and that we have the knowledge now to erradicated many of them and fight them off decently shows vast improvement of life. So things are much better than they were in the past. What's your point? You're constantly falling for these self-fulfilled prophecies here and you have yet to prove one thing that does not escape that obvious broken and vague reasonings. Not to get personal but JW's have predicted the end 8 times in the past, ruined lots of lives due to it, and have always been wrong and have never "manned-up" to say that they were wrong to people and they just brush it off like it never happened or reword it to make it sound more legit (a self fulfilling propechy). So I'm not really surprised at all that you're falling for this stuff.

http://www.truthnet.org/Christianity/cults/Jehovahwitnessesfalseprophecies.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm
http://mmoutreachinc.com/jehovahs_witnesses/prophet_among.html

[tzs]

YES, everything has a begining and an end, the world is no different........GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!