God is a Fake

[gaylasue]

I believe in the one and only true God.  Satan likes to make people believe that they can believe otherwise andd it is ok.  It maybe at this moment, which I doubt, but it definitely won't be in the near future.

[angelhome]

I really am realizing that God is a fake but I could create my own like a God is general that keeps everything in balance but not a personal Savior type of God.

What God do you believe in?

I pity you when you meet GOD. today you have choices up or down. at  your last breathe you will no longer have choices.
if there is no GOD we will all just be dead.... but if there is a GOD I am going up into the light, but for those who deny HIM, well you are
going down into darkness. it will be to late to even consider, to read the Bible and prove everyone wrong who says there is a GOD.
I will have lost nothing either way, while you gamble with your soul for all eternity in a fiery pit, as in forever & forever & forever & forever & forever & forever & -----..  get the picture?

[Falconer02]

I pity you when you meet GENERAL ZOD. today you have choices up or down. at  your last breathe you will no longer have choices.
if there is no GENERAL ZOD we will all just be dead.... but if there is a GENERAL ZOD I am going up into the light, but for those who deny HIM, well you are
going down into darkness. it will be to late to even consider, to read the Bible and prove everyone wrong who says there is a GENERAL ZOD.
I will have lost nothing either way, while you gamble with your soul for all eternity in a fiery pit, as in forever & forever & forever & forever & forever & forever & -----..  get the picture?

Wow, lady. Lay off and stop being such a *bleep* to Marie. Oh, did I call you a *bleep*? Silly me. I'm sorry- it's just that you're cursing someone into a evil fiery pit for all of eternity. If you don't think that's rude, your logic pathways are horrendously messed up and you shouldn't be debating anything here if all you're going to throw in are curses at people who don't believe the same as you. First off, with your reasoning, you should be worshipping every god in existence if you want to cover all of your bases to make sure you're "going up into the light". Secondly, you really expect to change minds with such an evil and fear-mongering point of view? Seriously, get off of your primitive high horse or I'll match your curse and send you into oblivion too. But that's not all! If you order now, I'll also curse your grandchildren! Absolutely free!

[angelhome]

I pity you when you meet GENERAL ZOD. today you have choices up or down. at  your last breathe you will no longer have choices.
if there is no GENERAL ZOD we will all just be dead.... but if there is a GENERAL ZOD I am going up into the light, but for those who deny HIM, well you are
going down into darkness. it will be to late to even consider, to read the Bible and prove everyone wrong who says there is a GENERAL ZOD.
I will have lost nothing either way, while you gamble with your soul for all eternity in a fiery pit, as in forever & forever & forever & forever & forever & forever & -----..  get the picture?

Wow, lady. Lay off and stop being such a *bleep* to Marie. Oh, did I call you a *bleep*? Silly me. I'm sorry- it's just that you're cursing someone into a evil fiery pit for all of eternity. If you don't think that's rude, your logic pathways are horrendously messed up and you shouldn't be debating anything here if all you're going to throw in are curses. First off, with your reasoning, you should be worshipping every god in existence if you want to cover all of your bases to make sure you're "going up into the light". Secondly, you really expect to change minds with such an evil and fear-mongering point of view? Seriously, get off of your primitive high horse or I'll match your curse and send you into oblivion too. But that's not all! If you order now, I'll also curse your grandchildren! Absolutely free!

Hit a nerve there, huh?  sounds like fear to me. But if the shoe fits wear it. she is the one who denys GOD, not I and as I said, if there is no GOD then we will all just be dead! I am only saying what the Bible says.  I am not cursing her, nor you, just please consider it a warning from a big sister. I have seen GOD work many times, as for you cursing me? I am unafraid, infact I pity you that you think you have the ability to curse anyone. you think you are GOD? curses do not stick unless there is guilt. While I am a sinner as you are, I bear no guilt in this instance for I did not curse anyone, just speaking truth. why are you so upset? think about it. Sorry. Hope you & Marie will both read the Bible, prove me wrong.

[Falconer02]

Hit a nerve there, huh?  sounds like fear to me.

No. When you curse a veteran user of this forum, I find it extremely rude. I don't see how that's fear-- it's just calling out to someone who's being a dunce.

if there is no GOD then we will all just be dead! I am only saying what the Bible says.

There might be many gods. And the bible says lots of crazy wacky things that people can do without. Did you know you can't get into heaven if your genitals get smashed?

I am not cursing her

Yeah. You are.

I have seen GOD work many times, as for you cursing me?

With the way you're typing, I'm sure you have, lady. I'm sure you have.  
And I'm only a "GOD" in Team Fortress.

While I am a sinner as you are

That's quite a rude assumption. I don't believe what you do, so I'm a sinner? Great pitch there. There's one reason I and others don't play your game...

Sorry. Hope you & Marie will both read the Bible, prove me wrong.

I have read much of the bible. It's a major reason why I'm not christian  
Prove you wrong? Let me get the ol' fundamentals of the abrahamic god and Jesus here...

[angelhome]

Hit a nerve there, huh?  sounds like fear to me.

No. When you curse a veteran user of this forum, I find it extremely rude. I don't see how that's fear-- it's just calling out to someone who's being a dunce.

if there is no GOD then we will all just be dead! I am only saying what the Bible says.

There might be many gods. And the bible says lots of crazy wacky things that people can do without. Did you know you can't get into heaven if your genitals get smashed?

I am not cursing her

Well Falconer - all I can say is I am sorry I offended you. but we are all sinners and obviously you don't understand the Bible. Give it a chance. your anger and emotion speaks loudly. What I said bothers you more than Maria. where does the Bible say if you get your genitals smashed you can't go to heaven? I have read the WORD many times, and never found that. have a great life Falconer, and I mean that sincerely. Chill out, this is still America and we all have the right to voice our opinion so laugh - my opinion shouldn't bother you at all, but the fact that it does - speaks. 

Yeah. You are.

I have seen GOD work many times, as for you cursing me?

With the way you're typing, I'm sure you have, lady. I'm sure you have.  
And I'm only a "GOD" in Team Fortress.

While I am a sinner as you are

That's quite a rude assumption. I don't believe what you do, so I'm a sinner? Great pitch there. There's one reason I and others don't play your game...

Sorry. Hope you & Marie will both read the Bible, prove me wrong.

I have read much of the bible. It's a major reason why I'm not christian  
Prove you wrong? Let me get the ol' fundamentals of the abrahamic god and Jesus here...

[Falconer02]

Well Falconer - all I can say is I am sorry I offended you. but we are all sinners and obviously you don't understand the Bible. Give it a chance. your anger and emotion speaks loudly. What I said bothers you more than Maria. have a great life Falconer, and I mean that sincerely. Chill out, this is still America and we all have the right to voice our opinion so laugh - my opinion shouldn't bother you at all, but the fact that it does - speaks.  

I understand the bible. I was a christian for 15 years. The problem you will never be able to grasp is that I'm beyond religious systems now-- that old way of thinking. I see them as part of a culture rather than truth-- each one usually preaching of mythical hero archaetypes, magical deities, vague prophecies, etc. Many beliefs share similar histories. Yours really isn't too different, but I'm getting too far ahead here...

where does the Bible say if you get your genitals smashed you can't go to heaven? I have read the WORD many times, and never found that.

There are tons and tons of awkward, disgusting, horrifying, and generally evil things in the bible. After reading it, you really aren't aware? I'll just stick with 2 of the disgusting ones I know of though-

Dueteronomy 23:1- “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the lord"

Ezekial 4:12- "And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them."

have a great life Falconer, and I mean that sincerely. Chill out, this is still America and we all have the right to voice our opinion so laugh - my opinion shouldn't bother you at all, but the fact that it does - speaks.  

You can't have an "opinion" because an opinion is prone to change (it breaks the whole "faith" barrier). Since you're christian, it is my opinion that this is your adamant, undying, and unchangeable belief that you hold to be true. Either way, what you said was extremely rude to be tossed around in such a naive manner. You think people want to hear about accepting your beliefs or they'll burn for eternity? What an awful guilt-tripping tactic for luring in the weak-minded. "I'll pity you when you're burning in agony for eternity!" Stop trying to turn this around with saying I'm "fearful". The reason it bothers me is that people like you think this way of speaking is completely acceptable-- that it should be respected because it's what you believe. It was so in the past, but that is slowly diminishing-- people are starting to realize it's nothing more than something on par with a hateful political stance. So you'd better start getting used to being called out on your detestable behavior.

tl;dnr version- It's not nice to say mean things for no good reason.

[Huwee]

I wouldn't say that at all!

[gaylasue]

I'm sticking to my beliefs that the Lord Jesus Christ has saved my eternal soul by shedding his life and blood on the Cross of Calvary.  God gives everyone a free will and mind and prays that mankind will not let satan be their guide. 

[DarkMistress]

Normally I enjoy getting into debates on this forum... even ones relating to God, and if he is this or that, or about the bible and etc....

HOWEVER... for this topic... and the starting statement in general... It is just beyond to damn stupid for me to even really give a response to it. I really feel if I respond to what was said that it will actually lower my IQ. So have fun in here without me.

*walks away mumbling something about morons who seek attention with stupidity*

[sac0098]

I can't believe that someone said that, you have to believe in something. I believe in God, without him I'm lost. I know that he have done a lot for me. I know sometime things can keep pretty bad, but you still have to believe, I also believe that God is testing our faith, and how strong we can be. I know a lot have happen in this world, but the devil is also working over time. He is trying to win soul, and the way you are talking he has won your. Read the Bible and trust the Almighty.

[angelhome]

Well Falconer - all I can say is I am sorry I offended you. but we are all sinners and obviously you don't understand the Bible. Give it a chance. your anger and emotion speaks loudly. What I said bothers you more than Maria. have a great life Falconer, and I mean that sincerely. Chill out, this is still America and we all have the right to voice our opinion so laugh - my opinion shouldn't bother you at all, but the fact that it does - speaks.  

I understand the bible. I was a christian for 15 years. The problem you will never be able to grasp is that I'm beyond religious systems now-- that old way of thinking. I see them as part of a culture rather than truth-- each one usually preaching of mythical hero archaetypes, magical deities, vague prophecies, etc. Many beliefs share similar histories. Yours really isn't too different, but I'm getting too far ahead here...

so you really believe you are your own GOD? did  you make yourself? can you catch the wind? a star? can  you breathe life into another?

where does the Bible say if you get your genitals smashed you can't go to heaven? I have read the WORD many times, and never found that.

There are tons and tons of awkward, disgusting, horrifying, and generally evil things in the bible. After reading it, you really aren't aware? I'll just stick with 2 of the disgusting ones I know of though-
yes there are some awful things in the Bible, they are put there for us to learn - as examples.

Dueteronomy 23:1- “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the lord"


NOT SURE WHERE U READ FROM BUT IN DEUT 23:1 MY BIBLE SAYS// The "Tyre" pronouncement.  Howl, you ships of Tarshish! For havoc has been wrought, not a house is left; as they came from the land of Kittim, This was revealed to them. [end]  Tyre was a sea port town. This prophecy of its overthrow is spoken of here for all its business, wealth, honour depended on its shipping; if that is ruined, they will be all undone.
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Ezekial 4:12- "And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight. And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them."

EZEKIAL 4:12 Eat it as barley cake; you shall bake it on human excrement before their eyes.  YES THIS WAS ORDERED AS A WARNING OF PUNISHMENT... This nauseous piece of cookery he exercised publicly  so that they might be more effecged wiht the calamity approaching. To show in teh extremity of a famine approaching, that they will not have any thing good, but nothing clean. This was meant to be a warning. There are many warnings in the WORD, our problem is we either choose or we are blinded to the warnings. There are conditions for living in light and shalom for all eternity and the earth is a testing ground. We either wise up or we walk in darkness.

have a great life Falconer, and I mean that sincerely. Chill out, this is still America and we all have the right to voice our opinion so laugh - my opinion shouldn't bother you at all, but the fact that it does - speaks.  

You can't have an "opinion" because an opinion is prone to change (it breaks the whole "faith" barrier). [Actually I don't consider myself a christian, but a believer] Since you're christian, it is my opinion that this is your adamant, undying, and unchangeable belief that you hold to be true. Either way, what you said was extremely rude to be tossed around in such a naive manner. You think people want to hear about accepting your beliefs or they'll burn for eternity? Neither did they wish to hear it in the Bible, some heard & were saved. while others went into hell. that is not my opinion but the words of the Bible. I had rather seek my favor with GOD, not man

 What an awful guilt-tripping tactic for luring in the weak-minded. guilt trip? not really. encourage other to read the WORD of GOD, learn for themselves rather than fall blindly into the pit.
 "I'll pity you when you're burning in agony for eternity!" Stop trying to turn this around with saying I'm "fearful".
If the shoe fits, we must wear it when we choose it. for  you to lash out at me for my opinion, demonstrates fear, emotions, perhaps guilt?

The reason it bothers me is that people like you think this way of speaking is completely acceptable-
why is the way I speak any different than yours? you may accept or not. Not my problem, I am told to be gentle as a dove yet wise as the fox...  "pity" is a slant for compassion and my feelings have not & will not change. I began my message with I pity you. and I do pity you for getting so upset over what I said. would you be a dictator? Yes, I think  you would if you think  you have the right to stop what I say in favor of your message? Would you use your whip on me because of what I believe, if you could? Yes, I think you would.
You may have read the Bible, but it is obvious you do not understand its meaning, or concept.
GOD loves you as much as HE loves me. HE sent HIS only SON to die for our sin. Would you send your only son to die for your best friend and than watch your best friend mock and shame his memory? That is exactly what folks do who deny HIM. That is a fact, not an opinion.

- that it should be respected because it's what you believe. It was so in the past, but that is slowly diminishing-- people are starting to realize it's nothing more than something on par with a hateful political stance. So you'd better start getting used to being called out on your detestable behavior.
This would be funny, it is were not so serious... you would be surprised how many agree with my 'detestable behavior' ... I am 70 yrs old, never had any problems, raised many children and am blessed with many grandchildren & great grand children. Run my own business for years, never had a problem with the law at all. Well known in my community for my [what you call] detestable behavior and no one seems bothered by it. My children rise up to call me blessed Proverbs...

tl;dnr version- It's not nice to say mean things for no good reason.  [[[ very good reason - the soul for all eternity - may you rethink your position. but I won't be the dictator that says you can not do as you please. GOD just sends warnings, so perhaps you should consider me as one of your 'warnings'? HAVE A GOOD LIFE, it may be all the good you ever know because after you breathe your last breath, your choice will end.

[legend83]

I'm sad to hear that you think God is not real. I would like to know what do you have faith in, if you have any?

[jcribb16]

Quote from angelhome:
where does the Bible say if you get your genitals smashed you can't go to heaven? I have read the WORD many times, and never found that.

Quote from Falconer:
There are tons and tons of awkward, disgusting, horrifying, and generally evil things in the bible. After reading it, you really aren't aware? I'll just stick with 2 of the disgusting ones I know of though-
yes there are some awful things in the Bible, they are put there for us to learn - as examples.

Dueteronomy 23:1- “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the lord"

Quote from angelhome:
NOT SURE WHERE U READ FROM BUT IN DEUT 23:1 MY BIBLE SAYS// The "Tyre" pronouncement.  Howl, you ships of Tarshish! For havoc has been wrought, not a house is left; as they came from the land of Kittim, This was revealed to them. [end]  Tyre was a sea port town. This prophecy of its overthrow is spoken of here for all its business, wealth, honour depended on its shipping; if that is ruined, they will be all undone.


Deuteronomy 23:1 does say, "He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
 
Moses wrote this book and the book itself means "second law giving."  It's written to the new generation of Israelites before going into the promised land of Canaan.  Caleb and Joshua, besides Moses, are the only ones who still lived from the old generation of traveling all this time.  This new generation needed to learn how to develop a proper relationship with God.  Joshua was also appointed as Moses' successor during this time, as well.  

Moral and legal regulations are expanded on while going through the Ten Commandments again.  In chapter 23, Moses was reviewing with these people how the law should be applied.  In verses 1 through 8, he is giving examples of ones not allowed into the congregation of that time.  These examples given include people who had either not listened to God during the travel in the wilderness, or had done things they weren't supposed to, and the ones who's family members or offspring were living in this new generation - these rules or laws were continued onto their members or offspring. They, in effect, were continuing to sow what their parents, or the grandparents, reaped.  

These verses in no way mean that we, in today's generation, cannot go to heaven for the kinds of things that happened back then.  When Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and rose again, we entered a new law, fulfilled by grace.  Those old applications of purity for entrance into the congregation of the Lord (the rules were even stricter for priests and their sons to work in the Lord's congregation) are not the same applications as of today.  You go to heaven if and when you decide to accept the Lord as Savior.  Thanks to what He did for us on the cross.

[edominik]

I definitely believe in God.  (cap is mine)   I admit I do not understand my God all the time, but that is ok with me.  Even Nietsche had issues with God/god.   To paraphrase, "I think therefore I am" was followed by "I do not know everything, therefore I am not God".   For me, my faith has helped me out a lot through life.   My father survived a year on the eastern front in WWII, two years in a death camp in Siberia, a firing squad, an escape to freedom, and a mine explosion.   He could not quote a thing from the Bible, but he definitely believed there was a God.  From that role model is where I get my view.

Take care and God Bless!