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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #945 on: March 19, 2012, 05:57:22 pm »
You know he may be fake to you but alright with me. :angel12:

Who, the invisible pink unicorn or someone else?
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #946 on: March 20, 2012, 01:06:45 am »
than I guess you weren't one of his choosen children???? :peace:

Naturally, you are privy to such a list of "chosen" and can produce it, otherwise you wouldn't be making unfounded claims.

You know he may be fake to you but alright with me. :angel12: 

Who, the invisible pink unicorn or someone else?

OHHhhhh......I was thinking it was gettisbrooks they were referring to as "fake to you but alright with (Zanta70092)"
because he/she hasn't produced the list of "choosen children" as of yet...... ???

hmmm, maybe it is the IPU though...

So anyway, falcon9........I know the IPU is definitely fake to you -- but that's alright with me

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #947 on: March 20, 2012, 01:10:44 am »
So anyway, falcon9........I know the IPU is definitely fake to you -- but that's alright with me
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Well, I used to wonder how the unicorn could be pink if it were invisible and then I remembered that since no one has produced evidence of seeing one, they could pretty much be any 'color', no?
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #948 on: March 20, 2012, 01:44:11 am »
Well, I used to wonder how the unicorn could be pink if it were invisible and then I remembered that since no one has produced evidence of seeing one, they could pretty much be any 'color', no? 

Glad I wasn't the only one who had the thought "How do you know the color of the invisible unicorn is pink?" pass through my head briefly before I stopped and thought about it.

Of course, 8) I didn't mention it to anyone (to avoid :-[ ); but now - since you said it (first), I will too.... ;D
                    
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #949 on: March 20, 2012, 02:03:26 am »
Glad I wasn't the only one who had the thought "How do you know the color of the invisible unicorn is pink?" pass through my head briefly before I stopped and thought about it.

Of course, 8) I didn't mention it to anyone (to avoid :-[ ); but now - since you said it (first), I will too.... ;D

That's just as well since the ones who keep insisting that the non-existance of something be 'proven' apparently need repeated reminders that, not only is that irrational, but also that one can just as easily substitute an 'invisible pink unicorn' for any hypothetical being and still have no evidence of either.
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #950 on: April 04, 2012, 08:58:41 am »
I believe in the Christian God, the one God because I am Catholic. Now that does not mean that I believe in everything the Catholics teach because I am now starting to research where they got that knowledge from. God, a higher power, the supreme being whatever you want to call him or her or it, a higher power does exist. It follows all logic. Things were planned to happen. You cannot tell me that there is not a structure, an order, to this world. Can I prove that God exists? No. But can you prove that he doesn't?  Enough said.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #951 on: April 04, 2012, 11:25:47 am »
a higher power does exist. It follows all logic.

Does it?!  http://www.evilbible.com/Impossible.htm
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #952 on: April 05, 2012, 06:42:12 am »
a higher power does exist. It follows all logic.

Does it?!  http://www.evilbible.com/Impossible.htm

Brought to mind "One man's trash is another man's treasure." In this instance I would say, "One man's logic is another man's lunacy."  ;)
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #953 on: April 06, 2012, 04:21:09 am »
Now that does not mean that I believe in everything the Catholics teach because I am now starting to research where they got that knowledge from.

Which parts of catholicism do you selectively disbelieve?
 
God, a higher power, the supreme being whatever you want to call him or her or it, a higher power does exist. It follows all logic.

Well no, an unsupported assertion does not follow any logic.  If you've made the claim of 'deital' existence, it's incumbent upon you to back up your claim with evidence.  

Things were planned to happen.

How was such a conclusion determined, (irresistable pun ... okay, 'arrived at')?
 
You cannot tell me that there is not a structure, an order, to this world.

Sure I can; I can even indicate evidence supporting the observations of lack of structure/changing structures, (order into chaos and cycling back via emergent phenomenon), disorder/chaos in this world and far beyond it.  In mathematical chaos theory, there are artifacts called islands of stability, (order within chaos).  Now, before you suggest something along the lines of 'they were created that way by a creator', I'd suggest in turn that they were created by a process which includes emergent/meta-emergent phenomenon, (there's at least some mathematical support for such a counter-argument while there is none for a 'creator').

Can I prove that God exists? No. But can you prove that he doesn't?  Enough said.

No, that isn't enough said.  You're employing a common logical fallacy of requiring that a negative premise be 'proven'.  You can't prove that invisible pink unicorns exist, therefore they do?  No.  Same concept.  This is diametrically-opposed to your direct claim that 'god' exists since you cannot provide evidence to support your claim.  Such a claim is therefore specious.
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #954 on: April 06, 2012, 12:53:52 pm »
I feel sorry for people that don't have God to believe in.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #955 on: April 06, 2012, 01:15:07 pm »
I feel sorry for people that don't have God to believe in.

I don't feel pity for those who choose to abdicate reason in favor of blind faith.  That's their choice, (although it's probably unrealistic to expect them to keep such a personal choice to themselves).
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #956 on: April 10, 2012, 07:22:38 am »
What is it that makes you feel that God is fake?

Atheist can never answer that question with a straight forward answer. Their the ones who are delusional thinking they have the power of a god to change things like a magician. Atheist can't believe something they can not see, nor do they have Faith, in anything. Not even their children, or parents, or their car getting them from point A to point B. And if it breaks down along the way, it was their reality that caused it, not the fact they didn't use preventative maintenance. Its all about the atheist and their non-belief in a higher power. What they don't realize is, 87% of Americans believe in a higher power which puts them in a very low percentage of people who believe in their own brain as having power to save them from anything they encounter. Atheist are going to cry-out in fear one day when their world comes crashing down all around them. Atheists are very shallow people, and it shows with their beliefs.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #957 on: April 10, 2012, 09:57:30 am »
What is it that makes you feel that God is fake?

Atheist can never answer that question with a straight forward answer. Their the ones who are delusional thinking they have the power of a god to change things like a magician. Atheist can't believe something they can not see, nor do they have Faith, in anything. Not even their children, or parents, or their car getting them from point A to point B. And if it breaks down along the way, it was their reality that caused it, not the fact they didn't use preventative maintenance. Its all about the atheist and their non-belief in a higher power. What they don't realize is, 87% of Americans believe in a higher power which puts them in a very low percentage of people who believe in their own brain as having power to save them from anything they encounter. Atheist are going to cry-out in fear one day when their world comes crashing down all around them. Atheists are very shallow people, and it shows with their beliefs.

I love the broad assumptions made by you. Either you do not know any atheists (I'm fairly sure I could have made that You DO NOT KNOW any) or you are full of yourself and delusional enough to think you actually know how an atheist, or anyone for that matter, thinks. You don't and if I sat here and wrote the same all inclusional statements about Christians, you would be up in arms. The difference being I was a believer and a Christian for decades, so I would have a point of reference. Have you ever been an atheist? No? Then you are full of it -> :bs:

"thinking they have the power of a god to change things like a magician"
No, we do NOT believe in 'a god', so it's moot to state we think we have that 'power', but I know there are magicians who are also atheists.

"Atheist can't believe something they can not see"
Wrong, wrong, wrong! I [and others] believe in gravity, wind, magnetic forces, many other 'things' that cannot be seen per se, but the effects of them are proof of their existence.

"nor do they have Faith, in anything. Not even their children, or parents, or their car getting them from point A to point B. And if it breaks down along the way, it was their reality that caused it, not the fact they didn't use preventative maintenance."

As for faith in children and parents, that makes no sense and as a Christian, YOU should have faith in nothing other than your God and that is stated very clearly in your Bible. If my car breaks down (and I DO preventive maintenance on it) it is the failure of mechanisms within the car. You making a case for cause vs reality is right up there with the most ignorant assumptions. If you are unable to provide valid comparisons, don't make any comparisons, period - it makes you look even more ignorant.

"Atheists are very shallow people, and it shows with their beliefs."

Shallow? How freaking dare you make that declaration. I can't speak for others on here, but my entire adult life has been spent doing the best I can to make babie's, toddler's, teen's and adult's lives bearable while they battle every type of cancer known to man. I am soooo shallow my own family and kids often went through long periods of time only seeing me for hours in a week and rarely was I able to enjoy holidays with all because I was at the hospital working. I can't count the times I have put myself through an immense guilt trip, even though my sons were cared for by a relative/good friend when I had to be gone. They also knew I was trying to give other families as much time on this earth as possible with their loved one(s) and it has never been thrown in my face, thankfully. The money I earn on here is not for me - I use every cent of it to buy toys, crayons, whatever for my pediatric cases. That in itself is pretty darn shallow, yes?

You really ought to take lessons from the true Christians on here (jcribb, sherlsshadow, a few others not around) because they remain open to hearing from we 'awful people' and aren't blatantly hypocritical and 'shallow' like you appear to be in what you've written. So, being that I am one of the "people who believe in their own brain as having power to save them from anything they encounter", make sure your God gets your a** out of the way before that car hits you....I'll use my 'brain' and dodge it on my own, thank you. ::)
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #958 on: April 10, 2012, 10:35:49 am »
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Atheist can never answer that question with a straight forward answer. Their the ones who are delusional thinking they have the power of a god to change things like a magician. Atheist can't believe something they can not see, nor do they have Faith, in anything. Not even their children, or parents, or their car getting them from point A to point B. And if it breaks down along the way, it was their reality that caused it, not the fact they didn't use preventative maintenance. Its all about the atheist and their non-belief in a higher power. What they don't realize is, 87% of Americans believe in a higher power which puts them in a very low percentage of people who believe in their own brain as having power to save them from anything they encounter. Atheist are going to cry-out in fear one day when their world comes crashing down all around them. Atheists are very shallow people, and it shows with their beliefs.

It's a good thing that percentage is slowly dwindling because people that have your opinion are proving to be a major hurdle for our world (Jdog's post is a prime example of this). Do everyone a favor and please educate yourself on the subject. You sound like a complete imbecile which is not a good thing to be doing if you consider yourself a spokesperson for your religion.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #959 on: April 10, 2012, 11:44:30 am »
Hiya, Falc! We're finally in the "same place at the same time". 8) Great post from my fellow 'shallow' friend. ;)

P.S. Did you happen to notice yet another one who uses "their" vs they're/ "your" vs you're? Reminds me of good 'ole Rev An..lla. ;D
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