God is a Fake

[willc98]

Believing is just an opinion which is kind of worthless.  God did reveal Himself to me over the course of a 15 year period.  I fall under the Reformed Christian spectrum now, it's the closest to TRUTH there is.  Back to Charles Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards, John Owen, etc... The Great Awakening was amazing, I would have loved to be around during that time. 

[Falconer02]

WELL I AM IMPRESSED THAT YOU CAN CATCH WIND WITH WIND TURBINE... can you catch it in your hand? can you see  your breathe? No because it is HIS breathe that HE gives you each morning. And HE can catch the wind, for it originates from HIM.

Heh...depends on your definition of catch. I can technically catch wind. I can interact with wind. I can explain how it forms, where it will go, use it as a power source etc. And depending on the weather or with various types of tech, I can see my breath. If it's your god doing it, I ask for proof. But I know you will fall short because you have not presented any thus far. The things you've listed are based on real beliefs that are interactable. Not faith-based beliefs, which are based upon emotion and speculation.

HE does not cause us to sin, we do that on our own. HE did give us free will to choose.

The abrahamic god does not allow for free will. Keep reading down.

THE BIBLE HAS NOT CHANGED. EVERY OTHER RELIGION HAS MADE CHANGES, BUT NOT THE BIBLE.

You seriously believe that? How long have you been christian? Have you ever done any research about the bible outside of your faith? There's changes and alterations left and right. I could go more in depth if you wish since your statement is completely false, but I want to make sure you'll read about it. And no, I'm not SATAN IN DISGUISE here. If you want to know about the alterations and books that were destroyed from it so that the governments could control it's people, let me know.

MY GOD WANTS ME TO BE LIGHT, AND WARN OTHERS. AT LEAST THOSE WHO WILL LISTEN. BUT THE WORD TELLS US IN END TIMES MANY WILL TURN FROM THE REAL FAITH TO FOLLOW OTHER gods

That's obviously a religious defense mechanism to keep the followers from questioning anything. 2/3rds of the world believe in other gods and it has been this way through history, so you're basically flipping off those people and playing the naive card. Predictions about he "end of times" started at day 1 of recorded human history. The fact that people are still doing it is a sad excuse to cover up a lazy nonprogressive attitude towards life. And please tell me how you expect to warn people when you deem yourself "THE LIGHT" and sound like you're quoting a fantasy novel.

We either wise up or we walk in darkness

Or eat poop. I'd rather walk in the dark than eat poop.

guilt trip? not really. encourage other to read the WORD of GOD, learn for themselves rather than fall blindly into the pit.

WHY DON'T YOU TRY READING IT WITH AN OPEN MIND...

Uhm...I read it when I was a christian and when I turned into a freethinker. Does that count? I still don't understand how you can't see that you're guilt tripping the gullibles.

NOT ARGUING... JUST THE FACTS. DON'T CARE IF YOU AGREE OR NOT.

You have presented no factual information-- nothing you can back up with proof.

HE does allow choice and you make it when you turn from HIM. it is called Freedom of Choice dear.

Explain to me how an omniscient being (a god who knows everything- past/present/future) is capable of giving us free choice when he already knows what is going to happen beforehand due to his powers.

Understand that you do get to make choices, but they're predetermined with your god so they aren't free choices. Based off of this he already knows who's going to heaven and hell, so explain to me how this god isn't malevolent.

[willc98]

I'm not going to debate because logically if you believe you are a child of God then you can't debate anyone into being a believer.  If you aren't chosen you cannot choose God because you don't see him and don't understand.  It's really amazing.  It's not a matter of changing your mind or being convinced.  Something very supernatural and trippy happens when you are converted and your sins are covered by Christ's blood.

Of course, maybe someone slipped a few hits of acid in my drink, I do admit to scientific possibilities as well.  But I believe what I believe.  Sure the Bible isn't perfect and has changed, but it is still God's Word and it's the means by which the Holy Spirit travels into our souls.  The Bible could say nothing but one word and have the same result to a Believer.  Non-believes just see it as some decent and some boring stories.

See, I can pick up the book of Numbers and literally feel God's presence just by reading a few lines of genealogy.

But like I said, there is no point in debating.  The agnostics have the upper hand and I say they win every argument.  The thing is, I'm placing all my chips on a whole other level 

[Falconer02]

Of course, maybe someone slipped a few hits of acid in my drink,

Hahaha you caught me on that. I was jokingly about to say something around those lines.

But like I said, there is no point in debating.  The agnostics have the upper hand and I say they win every argument.  The thing is, I'm placing all my chips on a whole other level 

I kind of agree with you here. The point of arguing/debating/discussing is just to throw knowledge on the table and getting people to look at it. Agnostics/atheists have a problem with people saying they can claim things as true when they can't present them as true- it's rude and fake when the skeleton of what someone says is "Like you, I am human. But I have mystical powers that you cannot/do not posess and I have dire information from those powers specifically for you. If you do not take that information, you will suffer!". The same concept is used with shamans and fortune tellers. Like you've demonstrated, it's fine to do it on a personal level and if anyone asks, just explain how you feel. But when someone's message is "BELIEVE ME OR YOU WILL BURN!" ...it's just bonkers on such a horrible level and the fact that those believers can't see that is just sad and ridiculous. That's why I look at that train-of-thought as nothing more than a primitive insult.

But if it makes someone feel good and helps them get through tough times, good. I'm glad. But when one starts threatening others, I'll criticize.

[gaylasue]

If you believe God is fake, you are worshipping the wrong type of god.  My God is as real as the blue sky, green grass, yellow flowers, brown newborn  colts, etc. are.  He created all.  I am anxiously awaiting for the Lord Jesus Christ to call all believers out of this evil world.

[ghunter]

You are Fake!  Can someone post something on this thing that is worth talking about besides God!  We all have differ opionions and to state that God is a Fake?  Who are you to judge, you are a fake because God created YOU!!!

[manicamarketing]

I believe in one God, in three persons.  The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. 

Just because you cannot physically see something does not mean it doesn't exist.  You cannot see the rays of the sun, but sit out in the sun and you become tan or burnt (lol).  Likewise, I can not see God, but He still exists.

[Falconer02]

Just because you cannot physically see something does not mean it doesn't exist.  You cannot see the rays of the sun, but sit out in the sun and you become tan or burnt (lol).  Likewise, I can not see God, but He still exists.

That is a majorly broken belief concept because sun rays are testable, can be seen with technology, and are pretty easy to understand. It's physically interactable and it's not that hard to show people how sun rays work. Your god on the other hand is none of these things, so I doubt you can make the claim "he exists" unless, given your example, you can show us any genuine physically interactable quality (example- call the god down, make it rain chocolate milk, etc.).

[IqraMalik]

Everyone believes what they want, weather it's a god many gods or no god. Everyone has their own opinion. But what makes you think that God is a fake? Look around you? Where do you guess all this cones from?

[wjd22011]

*bleep* both of you and *bleep* what you going through Falconer02 and angelhome

[wjd22011]

especially you Falconer02 shut the *bleep* up

[queenofnines]

@wjd22011: I have reported your last two posts to the moderator.  While I'm normally one who's all for free speech and all that jazz, you can't just go around telling people off for a stupid reason.  Disagreeing with what you see written in regards to religion qualifies as a stupid reason for telling Falconer (one of the most intelligent members on this forum) to go "f" himself.

[ocranito22]

I can respect the majority of opinions on this board and this topic.

[Falconer02]

especially you Falconer02 shut the *bleep* up

*bleep* both of you and *bleep* what you going through Falconer02 and angelhome

Want the arguing to stop? This is Debate and Discuss. Ain't gonna happen, n00b.

[Cuppycake]

Nice lol ! I preffer the Flying Spaghetti Monster :