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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #105 on: July 09, 2011, 01:17:32 pm »
God can not be God if he can not know the future. -- You are not correct
 a bible verse God states this  "  I knew you before you were born "  God must know the future
in order to SAVE YOU.  Just like when you was a child, if you went running into the kitchen and ready to
grab that hot boiling tea pot,  your mother already knows that if you do that you will get burned.  She in turn
as she saw you coming moved the tea pot away from your reach. If she could not know that the future holds
danger in you getting hurt by being burned by the tea pot she then would not be able to move it either. God's power is Love and not harm.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #106 on: July 09, 2011, 01:18:58 pm »
You are on the earth and breathing just because of these three words "GOD"

I am here because of a different three letters.... "MOM"

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #107 on: July 09, 2011, 01:22:17 pm »
You are on the earth and breathing just because of these three words "GOD"

I am here because of a different three words.... "MOM"
Don't be foolish. Some day you will die and so will your MOM -- Your mom is here
and ruled by the same force GOD .

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« Reply #108 on: July 09, 2011, 01:25:44 pm »
And when both our bodies die so will our brains and minds and our existance will be over.  Our bodies will be cremated or buried and decompose. That is the end.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 01:27:25 pm by prtee33 »

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #109 on: July 09, 2011, 01:27:01 pm »
why did you put avril lavigne there how come you did not put a picture of yourself im asking because you were saying i have not self respect look at me i put a picture of myself you dident

I don't have a picture of myself because this is a public forum.  And I like Avril.  Not wanting thousands of strangers to know what I look like isn't a self-respect issue, it's a safety matter.

I find it odd that you care whose picture is real or not, especially mine.  For the record, I am married.  lol  :P
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #110 on: July 09, 2011, 01:34:46 pm »
Im sorry to be the one to tell you but you are not flesh and blood - You are a soul and that soul
will rise again just like Jesus did - You see, Jesus had to die YOUR death so YOU can rise from the grave. So have more respect for your creator and stop degrading yourself ~ you are MORE and God is the one who MADE you more.  You are a living soul and you will rise as just that . Sorry to break the real truth to you but that is what Jesus did -- He brought the TRUTH -- Believe in yourself !
And when both our bodies die so will our brains and minds and our existance will be over.  Our bodies will be cremated or buried and decompose. That is the end.

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« Reply #111 on: July 09, 2011, 01:47:27 pm »
why did you put avril lavigne there how come you did not put a picture of yourself im asking because you were saying i have not self respect look at me i put a picture of myself you dident

I don't have a picture of myself because this is a public forum.  And I like Avril.  Not wanting thousands of strangers to know what I look like isn't a self-respect issue, it's a safety matter.

I find it odd that you care whose picture is real or not, especially mine.  For the record, I am married.  lol  :P

well i dont think its that big a deal to have a picture of your self on here or not and i dont think you would be in harm to post a picture either well i find it odd that you say i have no self respect why did you say that what did i do? and your married this is not a dating site were people look at your pictures to hook up i think it more of a curtisey so other people know hows behind that computer.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #112 on: July 09, 2011, 01:49:40 pm »
I can believe what I want buddy so stop preaching to me. I don't believe in your "truth" because I have yet to see any proof. I'm glad you have "faith" in your thoughts for that is all it is.

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« Reply #113 on: July 09, 2011, 01:54:34 pm »
Believe in what you want ~ that is just what God gave you the freedom to choose. 
I can believe what I want buddy so stop preaching to me. I don't believe in your "truth" because I have yet to see any proof. I'm glad you have "faith" in your thoughts for that is all it is.

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« Reply #114 on: July 09, 2011, 02:03:09 pm »
Ok thanks. I always thought it was my own intelligence and the development of reasoning and thinking through education and learning that allowed me to make choices.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #115 on: July 09, 2011, 02:03:48 pm »
You all reported wjd22011, but continue to play along.  :dontknow:

who all reported me?

nevermind i dont want to ask you any questions.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #116 on: July 09, 2011, 02:24:36 pm »
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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #117 on: July 09, 2011, 02:26:06 pm »
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God must know the future in order to SAVE YOU.

And yet people will go to hell with this god. He knows who is going and who's not. How is this not malevolent?

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Just like when you was a child, if you went running into the kitchen and ready to grab that hot boiling tea pot,  your mother already knows that if you do that you will get burned.  She in turn as she saw you coming moved the tea pot away from your reach.

With your example, the mother is allowing her children to touch that hot pot. Not only that, but she knows they're going to do it ahead of time. No loving parent (with or without granting free will to the child) would EVER do that unless they were malevolent. Any loving and caring person would immediately push that pot away to keep EVERY child away from danger. So let's decypher your example-
a.) there is no free will because since he already knows what the outcome is of everything, it is fatalism. There cannot be free will if an entity knows the outcome of everything. It's playing with a stacked deck.
b.) since he knows ahead of time that people are going to hell, this god is evil.

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God's power is Love and not harm.

With your reasonings, it is quite the opposite.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2011, 02:31:58 pm by Falconer02 »

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #118 on: July 09, 2011, 02:30:38 pm »
Spiritual development is what teaches the reality of God ~ You are not Spiritually developed at all. Education on how to survive in the flesh is not the same as Spiritual insight.  You will never have this development if you continue to stay in the flesh.  LOOK and you will SEE - If you will not look,  you will not see. The choice is yours  :)
Ok thanks. I always thought it was my own intelligence and the development of reasoning and thinking through education and learning that allowed me to make choices.

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Re: God is a Fake
« Reply #119 on: July 09, 2011, 02:31:42 pm »
i find it odd that you say i have no self respect why did you say that what did i do?

I thought it was pretty clear why I said that, but since you didn't get it...I think it takes a lack of self-respect to reply in a childish manner like I saw you do multiple times on this thread.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
-- Carl Sagan

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