Do you believe in Darwins theory of evlution or do you believe in the bibcal cre

[mstachitus]

evolution is much more evident and practical. it makes sense to me that over thousands and millions of years, that we've developed into supreme beings. the question is why does DNA do this.. and what's our purpose

Very well spoken here. Imo, our ultimate purpose depends on each individual to create their own.

But creationism does not have to be literal, and creationism and evolution are not mutually exclusive.  If the biblical God exists, whose to say that the seven days of creation didn't actually span billions of years?  

Because it says 7 days and not billions of years. Even if it were billions, that still is far off from the correct estimate. Whenever science tends to bump into and show obvious fallacies within religious texts, the religious followers will always scramble to find a work-around for it so they can claim their foundation remains unbroken. Creationist viewpoints and evolutionary viewpoints are extremely different in that manner-- one involves confirmable evidence that can be seen, has been discovered, and can be manipulated. The other extends into the realms of ancient mythology which cannot really be backed up because it's dealing with supernatural elements. I like to use the example of
'god is to science as astrology is to astronomy' for these types of claims.

I believe in God  I don't believe in Evolution but I do respect the beliefs of others

That's coo. Check it out though. It's pretty neat.

I DO NOT believe that God's children descended from Apes or Monkeys. It is a scientific fact that this earth has been in existence longer than the six thousand plus years that are documented in the Bible since the creation of Adam and Eve.

Okay, everyone. FYI- Evolution does not state we came from apes or monkeys.

Well in the Bible it states that 1 day to God is like 1,000 years for us.  Therefore, the creation could have taken 6,000 years instead of 6 days (God rested for the last day, so he wasn't doing any creation).  Now if he were to start completely from scratch, it would still be hard to imagine him creating things using evolution in only 6,000 years, but who said he started from scratch.  God obviously has experience with creating planets and solar systems and even life.

Of course this still falls under your scrutiny as something that cannot be proved, or manipulated, and has no confirm-able evidence.  But, on the other hand, God would not give us too much evidence if he wanted us to walk by faith, rather than by sight.  This life would not be much of a testing ground for his children if it was easy to prove his existence.  We would all believe in him because it would be fact.  This way, it weeds out those who have no faith or belief.

[mrsmoore21]

Ok so I do believe in God however I have my questions. What about the dinosaurs that lived here before any of us. In the bible it say's that God created the univers and the earth. But it does not say anything about the dinosuars being created be fore us??

[mstachitus]

Ok so I do believe in God however I have my questions. What about the dinosaurs that lived here before any of us. In the bible it say's that God created the univers and the earth. But it does not say anything about the dinosuars being created be fore us??

It also doesn't say that Lamas were created, but we have those right?

There does seem to be an inconsistency with time, however.  The materials of this earth are millions of years old (or billions, whatever).  The story of the Bible back to Adam only accounts for 6,000 years so far, right?  It is obvious that the Universe is also Billions of years old.  If God created all things, than he created the entire universe as well.  Perhaps his creation if this earth was more of an organizing of matter, rather than a *poof* stuff out of nowhere type of creation.  Dinosaur bones could have been part of that organization.  God could have taken materials from dead planets, and the bones were with it.  Who knows? 

We don't know everything, so all we can do is speculate.

[bschumacher]

This isn't about belief. It's about an ever-increasing amount of evidence that proves Darwin was right. There's far more proof now than there was when Darwin wrote his books. People are free to believe anything they want. That doesn't make it true.

[slowg8]

there is so much evidence & proof that darwin was in the know.  the bible was written by several people during a time of lots & lots of wine!!  sometimes the "stories" out of the bible are so hard to believe, but darwin's theories are vastly proven time & again.

[asher07]

I believe in creation

[Falconer02]

Well in the Bible it states that 1 day to God is like 1,000 years for us.  Therefore, the creation could have taken 6,000 years instead of 6 days (God rested for the last day, so he wasn't doing any creation).  Now if he were to start completely from scratch, it would still be hard to imagine him creating things using evolution in only 6,000 years, but who said he started from scratch.  God obviously has experience with creating planets and solar systems and even life.

There is no proof for this. Infact the evidence points away from everything stated here. Like I stated earlier, creationism cannot break free from this type of thinking because if it does, the whole foundation crumbles. That's why there's all these faulty interpretations left and right.

Of course this still falls under your scrutiny as something that cannot be proved, or manipulated, and has no confirm-able evidence.  But, on the other hand, God would not give us too much evidence if he wanted us to walk by faith, rather than by sight.

"You don't need to see it. You just need to have faith."
Look at it from the opposite end for a moment. Don't you think this is just a convenient way to get out of explaining this god's existence?
http://philstilwell.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/leprechaun-in-a-box/

God could have taken materials from dead planets, and the bones were with it.  Who knows?

That's...quite a stretch! lol

This isn't about belief. It's about an ever-increasing amount of evidence that proves Darwin was right. There's far more proof now than there was when Darwin wrote his books. People are free to believe anything they want. That doesn't make it true.

there is so much evidence & proof that darwin was in the know.  the bible was written by several people during a time of lots & lots of wine!!  sometimes the "stories" out of the bible are so hard to believe, but darwin's theories are vastly proven time & again.

Well said.

[SurveyMack10]

I believe in biblical creation, and I don't believe in reincarnation even though its a cool idea.

[mstachitus]

Well in the Bible it states that 1 day to God is like 1,000 years for us.  Therefore, the creation could have taken 6,000 years instead of 6 days (God rested for the last day, so he wasn't doing any creation).  Now if he were to start completely from scratch, it would still be hard to imagine him creating things using evolution in only 6,000 years, but who said he started from scratch.  God obviously has experience with creating planets and solar systems and even life.

There is no proof for this. Infact the evidence points away from everything stated here. Like I stated earlier, creationism cannot break free from this type of thinking because if it does, the whole foundation crumbles. That's why there's all these faulty interpretations left and right.

Of course this still falls under your scrutiny as something that cannot be proved, or manipulated, and has no confirm-able evidence.  But, on the other hand, God would not give us too much evidence if he wanted us to walk by faith, rather than by sight.

"You don't need to see it. You just need to have faith."
Look at it from the opposite end for a moment. Don't you think this is just a convenient way to get out of explaining this god's existence?
http://philstilwell.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/leprechaun-in-a-box/

God could have taken materials from dead planets, and the bones were with it.  Who knows?

That's...quite a stretch! lol

This isn't about belief. It's about an ever-increasing amount of evidence that proves Darwin was right. There's far more proof now than there was when Darwin wrote his books. People are free to believe anything they want. That doesn't make it true.

there is so much evidence & proof that darwin was in the know.  the bible was written by several people during a time of lots & lots of wine!!  sometimes the "stories" out of the bible are so hard to believe, but darwin's theories are vastly proven time & again.

Well said.

Well hey, I'm just throwing out ideas.  I never claimed to have any sort of proof for you.  I was portraying my ideas for the benefit of others, hoping they would think outside the box.

Atheists claim that Creationists are extremely short sighted, and I actually agree that most are, but on the other hand, atheists are usually just as short sighted as creationists.  Both sides are guilty.

[madeara]

I believe in Jesus Christ.  I also believe in Creationism.

[Falconer02]

Well hey, I'm just throwing out ideas.  I never claimed to have any sort of proof for you.  I was portraying my ideas for the benefit of others, hoping they would think outside the box.

That's cool. I'm just saying that most creationist explanations don't make a lot of sense-- Ideas are cool, but for the most part, creationist ideas aren't based on solid grounds. They use faith instead of logic as a basis, which does not work while trying to explain rational things. That was just part of what I was trying to build on.

Atheists claim that Creationists are extremely short sighted, and I actually agree that most are, but on the other hand, atheists are usually just as short sighted as creationists.  Both sides are guilty.

Well you would be completely right about most C's being short-sighted...ohhh do I have stories! lol  but explain the short sightedness of atheism. For the record I'm not atheist-- I'm agnostic (though both of these usually run parallel). I'd like to hear.

[mstachitus]

If you want an example, just look at some of the replies that alleged Atheists post.  They are usually very bitterly apposing any religious views.  As for agnostics, I feel they are not usually as short sighted as atheists, or even as creationists, but the fact that they choose not to make up their mind can be a little vexing.

Of course, I am speaking in generalities, so bringing specifics into the scheme wouldn't make much sense, because there are always examples on both sides of an argument.

I personally try to make sense of both sides.  That's why I believe in science, as far as it is correct, and religion as far as it is true religion.  As I said previously, true science and true religion will never contradict each other.  I believe God is the ultimate scientist, who works by every law of science that he has established.  Every miracle was a direct result of higher science that man does not comprehend yet, and since we are making more scientific discoveries almost daily, it is easy to comprehend that there are many things we do not understand yet.

[amyrouse]

For Falconer and mstachitus:

This article is perhaps one of the best I've read about the differences between Christians and Atheists.  I came across it because Cracked is one of my favorite websites, but as I read it, I found it is one of my favorite things I've read online.  Reader, beware... this is a cracked article, so it may have some offensive language, but the article is well worth reading.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15663_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on.html

[tzs]

Evolution and science, because you dont just assume its there, you can see it in action.......in the real world!

[mstachitus]

For Falconer and mstachitus:

This article is perhaps one of the best I've read about the differences between Christians and Atheists.  I came across it because Cracked is one of my favorite websites, but as I read it, I found it is one of my favorite things I've read online.  Reader, beware... this is a cracked article, so it may have some offensive language, but the article is well worth reading.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15663_10-things-christians-atheists-can-and-must-agree-on.html

Lol, that's a good article.  I couldn't agree more.