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falcon9

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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #315 on: September 20, 2011, 07:20:30 pm »
if someone chooses to be unhealthy it does not affect you in any way. Also, not everyone who eats at at McDonalds is unhealthy.

Seriously? 'Now, the reason obese people are a burden to society, and the medical industry in paticular, is that they are more susceptible to heart attacks, cancer, and diabetes than people who are not overweight. Over sixty-eight BILLION dollars a year are spent on doctor's fees and missed time at work. They are the third largest segment of the population impacting the total cost of health care.'

I am going to continue to have an intelligent conversation with falconer and opt out of the word games you like to play on every forum- ALSO, if someone wants to spend their money on healthcare instead of dieting that is their free will. Your lifestyle choices do not reflect those of everyone else, and as long as you want that to happen you are going to live a very unsatisfactory life. Great thing about America is that we have freedom. Once again, NOT EVERYONE WHO EATS AT MCDONALDS IS UNHEALTHY.

Your ad hominem aside, I contend that it is your choice to respond or not to forum remarks in the hostile manner envinced by your snide comments.  It's almost as if you were choosing to be irrational ...

Haha your hypocrisy is almost unbearable to read.

Since I haven't envinced the blatant hypocrisy you have, your opinion is without merit:
Reply #175 on: September 05, 2011, 03:56:46 pm, Message ID: 412682
Wherein "SurveyMack10" stated her claim that:

"I am not claiming God is or is not real, I believe He is ..."[/endquote]
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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #316 on: September 20, 2011, 09:49:14 pm »

So if I get skin cancer because you think I lay out too much, and I pay for all my treatments, that affects you how?

Your poor decision which resulted in acquiring skin cancer raises the general healthcare costs for everyone else because you aren't likely to pay for all your treatments and instead, are more likely to use either a healthcare plan, (or, "free clinics", which pass the costs on to other patients).  The scenario where you are paying _all_ costs, (not only any deductables or, co-pays), is possible but, dubious.

So you chose to ignore the fact that I clearly stated "I pay for all my treatments"

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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #317 on: September 20, 2011, 09:51:20 pm »
if someone chooses to be unhealthy it does not affect you in any way. Also, not everyone who eats at at McDonalds is unhealthy.

Seriously? 'Now, the reason obese people are a burden to society, and the medical industry in paticular, is that they are more susceptible to heart attacks, cancer, and diabetes than people who are not overweight. Over sixty-eight BILLION dollars a year are spent on doctor's fees and missed time at work. They are the third largest segment of the population impacting the total cost of health care.'

I am going to continue to have an intelligent conversation with falconer and opt out of the word games you like to play on every forum- ALSO, if someone wants to spend their money on healthcare instead of dieting that is their free will. Your lifestyle choices do not reflect those of everyone else, and as long as you want that to happen you are going to live a very unsatisfactory life. Great thing about America is that we have freedom. Once again, NOT EVERYONE WHO EATS AT MCDONALDS IS UNHEALTHY.

Your ad hominem aside, I contend that it is your choice to respond or not to forum remarks in the hostile manner envinced by your snide comments.  It's almost as if you were choosing to be irrational ...

Haha your hypocrisy is almost unbearable to read.

Since I haven't envinced the blatant hypocrisy you have, your opinion is without merit:
Reply #175 on: September 05, 2011, 03:56:46 pm, Message ID: 412682
Wherein "SurveyMack10" stated her claim that:

"I am not claiming God is or is not real, I believe He is ..."[/endquote]

That is not hypocrisy at all- that is simply showing that just because I believe something does not mean it is a proven fact. This is the case with MANY things that people believe, understand?

Also, you do not have the authority to decide whether or not my opinion is with or without merit or anyone's opinion for that matter. Great effort though, try a little harder next time.

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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #318 on: September 20, 2011, 09:58:50 pm »

So if I get skin cancer because you think I lay out too much, and I pay for all my treatments, that affects you how?

Your poor decision which resulted in acquiring skin cancer raises the general healthcare costs for everyone else because you aren't likely to pay for all your treatments and instead, are more likely to use either a healthcare plan, (or, "free clinics", which pass the costs on to other patients).  The scenario where you are paying _all_ costs, (not only any deductables or, co-pays), is possible but, dubious.

So you chose to ignore the fact that I clearly stated "I pay for all my treatments"

No, I simply doubted your statement based upon your previous doubtful statements.
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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #319 on: September 20, 2011, 10:03:40 pm »

So if I get skin cancer because you think I lay out too much, and I pay for all my treatments, that affects you how?

Your poor decision which resulted in acquiring skin cancer raises the general healthcare costs for everyone else because you aren't likely to pay for all your treatments and instead, are more likely to use either a healthcare plan, (or, "free clinics", which pass the costs on to other patients).  The scenario where you are paying _all_ costs, (not only any deductables or, co-pays), is possible but, dubious.

So you chose to ignore the fact that I clearly stated "I pay for all my treatments"


No, I simply doubted your statement based upon your previous doubtful statements.

Meaning that you doubt I can pay for medical treatment? Hahahahaha.

Also, no matter what time of day I post here you always respond immediately as if you are constantly at the computer. I find this to be curious as you made a statement earlier implying I am not a productive member of society. Obviously I am not going to make a snap judgement from simple conversations on a forum as you do, but maybe you should find some hobbies outside of the fusioncash forum and you'd have a little less pent up anger and feelings of superiority toward anonymous online acquaintances.

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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #320 on: September 20, 2011, 10:03:53 pm »

Reply #175 on: September 05, 2011, 03:56:46 pm, Message ID: 412682
Wherein "SurveyMack10" stated her claim that:

"I am not claiming God is or is not real, I believe He is ..."[/endquote]

That is not hypocrisy at all- that is simply showing that just because I believe something does not mean it is a proven fact.[/quote]

Again, you are either asserting a 'belief' in something which is real or unreal; which is it?


[/quote]Also, you do not have the authority to decide whether or not my opinion is with or without merit or anyone's opinion for that matter.[/quote]

It isn't a matter of authority, (especially just because you say so); it's a matter of discerning the differences between an unfounded, baseless opinion (yours) and a substantiated, informed opinion.  You aren't very good at this, are you?  Your school's standards must be abysmally-low.
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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #321 on: September 20, 2011, 10:07:57 pm »

Meaning that you doubt I can pay for medical treatment? Hahahahaha.

No, meaning that I've observed you dissembling, dodging, diverting and being dishonest so, I doubted your mere word for it.



[/quote]maybe you should find some hobbies outside of the fusioncash forum and you'd have a little less pent up anger and feelings of superiority toward anonymous online acquaintances.
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I'm not currently experiencing any "pent up anger and feelings of superiority toward" anyone at the most, least of all, you.  I trust psychology is not your major at school.
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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #322 on: September 20, 2011, 10:18:53 pm »

Reply #175 on: September 05, 2011, 03:56:46 pm, Message ID: 412682
Wherein "SurveyMack10" stated her claim that:

"I am not claiming God is or is not real, I believe He is ..."[/endquote]

That is not hypocrisy at all- that is simply showing that just because I believe something does not mean it is a proven fact.

Again, you are either asserting a 'belief' in something which is real or unreal; which is it?


[/quote]Also, you do not have the authority to decide whether or not my opinion is with or without merit or anyone's opinion for that matter.[/quote]

It isn't a matter of authority, (especially just because you say so); it's a matter of discerning the differences between an unfounded, baseless opinion (yours) and a substantiated, informed opinion.  You aren't very good at this, are you?  Your school's standards must be abysmally-low.
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HAHAHA actually I have a 4.0, but I guess I must go to clown school!

Also, you are not going to FORCE me to say God is real just so you can FURTHER AVOID proving* he is not.

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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #323 on: September 20, 2011, 10:20:21 pm »

Meaning that you doubt I can pay for medical treatment? Hahahahaha.

No, meaning that I've observed you dissembling, dodging, diverting and being dishonest so, I doubted your mere word for it.



maybe you should find some hobbies outside of the fusioncash forum and you'd have a little less pent up anger and feelings of superiority toward anonymous online acquaintances.
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I'm not currently experiencing any "pent up anger and feelings of superiority toward" anyone at the most, least of all, you.  I trust psychology is not your major at school.
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Amazing that you feel yourself so superior to have claimed to know my financial status, my GPA, as well as my major. Keep it up and you will soon take over Miss Chleo's job!!

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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #324 on: September 20, 2011, 10:25:09 pm »

Reply #175 on: September 05, 2011, 03:56:46 pm, Message ID: 412682
Wherein "SurveyMack10" stated her claim that:

"I am not claiming God is or is not real, I believe He is ..."[/endquote]

Again, you are either asserting a 'belief' in something which is real or unreal; which is it?


Also, you are not going to FORCE me to say God is real just so you can FURTHER AVOID proving* he is not.

There is no "force" being applied; you are simply (and ineptly) avoiding admitting that you claimed "I believe He is" (real).  Your asserted claim has been quoted several times, are you now attempting to deny that you wrote it?
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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #325 on: September 20, 2011, 10:49:22 pm »
Also, this Jim Huber is a humanist/athiest.  I maintain my comment.

Being either a humanist or an atheist does not make the parody any less apropo than if a xtian, muslim or AI program wrote it.  Your comment is merely your unsupported opinion of preference, rather than an objective dissent.

I do want to clarify one thing.  Not all athiests would agree with your parody listed.   However, there are many that are so anti-God, that their attitude is totally biased and it shows in their writings and teachings, including this parody.  This parody is biased, anti-God, and saracastic of Christians and God.  As a Christian, I am stating this objectively.  A non-christian friend also states that it comes through loud and clear "anti-God" with no respect of a Christian's decision to follow God.  There are things listed in there that are over-exaggerated just to make a Christian's choice look stupid and foolish. 

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« Reply #326 on: September 20, 2011, 10:59:52 pm »

I do want to clarify one thing.  Not all athiests would agree with your parody listed.

True, and not all xtians would agree with your biased, god-mongering which shows in the xtian writings and "teachings".  

However, there are many that are so anti-God, that their attitude is totally biased and it shows in their writings and teachings, including this parody.  This parody is biased, anti-God, and saracastic of Christians and God.

As a Christian, I am stating this objectively.

Your assertion is a false claim; as a xtian, you are definitely _not_ making your statement of opinion objectively since it is manifestly filtered through your belief system. 

A non-christian friend also states that it comes through loud and clear "anti-God" with no respect of a Christian's decision to follow God.  There are things listed in there that are over-exaggerated just to make a Christian's choice look stupid and foolish. 

What specific portions are "anti-god", (since you are making the allegation through some so-called "non-xtian friend")?  Additionally, could you indicate which parts of the parody are "over-exaggerated", (supposedly to make a xtian's choice look stupid and foolish ... something for which little or no assistance is required)?
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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #327 on: September 21, 2011, 11:28:33 am »
Amazing that you feel yourself so superior to have claimed to know my financial status, my GPA, as well as my major.

No, I expressed doubts concerning the financial status of the typical college student and without documentation, GPA claims are dubious in light of a demonstrated lack of critical thinking skills, (at least here - who knows if you're shining them on at school).  As far as your major is concerned, the actual statement made was an educated guess that it wasn't psychology, (again, based upon your replies here so far).
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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #328 on: September 21, 2011, 04:39:55 pm »

Reply #175 on: September 05, 2011, 03:56:46 pm, Message ID: 412682
Wherein "SurveyMack10" stated her claim that:

"I am not claiming God is or is not real, I believe He is ..."[/endquote]

Again, you are either asserting a 'belief' in something which is real or unreal; which is it?


Also, you are not going to FORCE me to say God is real just so you can FURTHER AVOID proving* he is not.

There is no "force" being applied; you are simply (and ineptly) avoiding admitting that you claimed "I believe He is" (real).  Your asserted claim has been quoted several times, are you now attempting to deny that you wrote it?

I NEVER said I did not claim to BELIEVE He is real and never will, do not even attempt to twist those words. I absolutely BELIEVE it. I said I did not claim his existence it as FACT. Huge difference.

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Re: Do you believe in the afterlife?
« Reply #329 on: September 21, 2011, 04:41:52 pm »

I do want to clarify one thing.  Not all athiests would agree with your parody listed.

True, and not all xtians would agree with your biased, god-mongering which shows in the xtian writings and "teachings".  

However, there are many that are so anti-God, that their attitude is totally biased and it shows in their writings and teachings, including this parody.  This parody is biased, anti-God, and saracastic of Christians and God.

As a Christian, I am stating this objectively.

Your assertion is a false claim; as a xtian, you are definitely _not_ making your statement of opinion objectively since it is manifestly filtered through your belief system. 

A non-christian friend also states that it comes through loud and clear "anti-God" with no respect of a Christian's decision to follow God.  There are things listed in there that are over-exaggerated just to make a Christian's choice look stupid and foolish. 

What specific portions are "anti-god", (since you are making the allegation through some so-called "non-xtian friend")?  Additionally, could you indicate which parts of the parody are "over-exaggerated", (supposedly to make a xtian's choice look stupid and foolish ... something for which little or no assistance is required)?

Your assertion that Christians cannot speak objectively is false. Also, if that is the case then your opinions are all biased do to your involvement in atheism therefore making all of your arguments so far tainted.

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