Abortion. Should it be illegal? Or not?

[Falconer02]

The drunk driver is charged 2x's with homicide.

What if the woman is on her way to the abortion clinic?

[marieelissa]

Pro choice here. Nobody has the right to regulate what any person may choose to do to their own body.

Try telling that to the cops when someone tries to kill themself. It's their body right? WRONG! It's their wrist their slitting, right? WRONG!

[marieelissa]

Don't you anti abortion people honestly feel there are way to many people in this world and if women want to off with some then the better off society is at a whole?

There is so many people in this world and only more will come, I say let them kill a few, uh I mean end the process of development.

[SCarter984]

I am against abortions but I am just as much against having my rights as a woman and as a person taken away by a bunch of bald old men.  The issue here, for them, is to set a precedent.  If they can take away the right of choice, they can also take away our rights of anything else.  It's like living in a dictatorship.  If they decide that you should not eat organic food or drink raw milk, because they think it's just not good for you, then they have the right to legislate what you do.  Don't be confused.  They could care less about our lives, and they care more about the control they can have.

[Falconer02]

I get the idea that a lot of pro-lifers think that us pro-choice people just want to kill babies. It's not true-- of course we're pro-life! There is obviously more happening in the woman's life than just getting rid of a fetus and we acknowledge that. Besides, if you take away the safest method of abortion, there will always be other ways to do it.

[amyrouse]

The main problem here is POV.  When does viability begin?  Cause, IMO, that is when life really begins.  Until then, a fetus, no matter how much a woman wants the child, is equivalent to a parasite.  Without that woman's body, that fetus would not have life. 

Where do you draw the line?  A woman who is a mother to living children gets pregnant but the pregnancy may kill her.  That abortion is murder?  What about her children who will not have a mother if that pregnancy does? 

Here is another line.  Before I had my daughter, I was pregnant with a fetus that did not have a heartbeat and was not growing, but would not pass on its own.  Is that murder?  Is that manslaughter?  Am I a baby killer because I made the decision to have the fetus removed?  I didn't do it with a light heart; it nearly killed me emotionally.  Because I made that choice, I am a mother today to a beautiful, healthy, terrible two little girl.

[cyncity831]

No, it shouldn't be illegal at all.  Who is anyone to take away a persons own right to do what they want with their own body.  I'm not saying that its a easy way out, but there are instances where its understandable.  Rape, extremely young girls, low income people.  I understand it is one owns responsibility, but why bring a child into a world that you're not fit to take care of.  And as far as adoption goes, its a major struggle to have to carry a child, birth a child, then have to give up that child.  And finally live life knowing that there is a piece of them out there that they know nothing of.  Things are alot easier said than done.  But regardless of all those factors, a women should have the right to do as she sees fit for her body and what she can accept or not!

[mattymatt79]

I am against abortions but I am just as much against having my rights as a woman and as a person taken away by a bunch of bald old men.  The issue here, for them, is to set a precedent.  If they can take away the right of choice, they can also take away our rights of anything else.  It's like living in a dictatorship.  If they decide that you should not eat organic food or drink raw milk, because they think it's just not good for you, then they have the right to legislate what you do.  Don't be confused.  They could care less about our lives, and they care more about the control they can have.

They already decided last week that we're not allowed to drink raw milk and that organic food has to be certified and tested via the FDA with that food bill that they passed in the senate.

If you want to go down that line of thinking, I could poke holes in almost every piece of legislation passed in the past few years. That being said, I doubt its control, it's who gives them more money via donations.

Like I asked before, when do your rights as the carrying parent end and the rights of the unborn begin? If you killed a child outside of the womb it would be manslaughter at least and potentially murder 1 at most. Concerned about choice, why is the child’s choice for life not taken into consideration? Isn’t that what is stated in our constitution, pursuit of life and liberty?

Just doing a bit of reading right now, the cause for adoption is so low in the US and the time to wait is so high due to fewer children most couples are almost forced to adopt out of country. From one site reading, it can cost almost twice as much depending on travel costs to adopt from the US as opposed to internationally, this is mostly due to two reasons; one being the costs and wait time associated with a domestic adoption and two, less infants to adopt in the US. 

[amyrouse]

Like I asked before, when do your rights as the carrying parent end and the rights of the unborn begin?

When viability is reached; that is, when the child can live outside of the mother's womb.  Let me direct you to my post...

[mattymatt79]

So what, 18 weeks? 20 weeks? Babies have lived as early as 16 weeks.

3 weeks a hearbeat is detected
6 weeks brain waves and kicking is started.

You would be ok with a 1st term abortion but not 2nd or 3rd?

[marieelissa]

So what, 18 weeks? 20 weeks? Babies have lived as early as 16 weeks.

3 weeks a hearbeat is detected
6 weeks brain waves and kicking is started.

You would be ok with a 1st term abortion but not 2nd or 3rd?

I would never have an abotion, I could never do that period. Even if I was raped, I know that is my responsibility, to care for my baby. You know I think it takes a strong women to be that way.  

BUT I could care less what other women do with their babies, not mine, not me, I don't care.

[amyrouse]

So what, 18 weeks? 20 weeks? Babies have lived as early as 16 weeks.

3 weeks a hearbeat is detected
6 weeks brain waves and kicking is started.

You would be ok with a 1st term abortion but not 2nd or 3rd?

I have no problems with abortions that were decided upon by a woman and a qualified physician.  Every case is different.  My concern is with the people who are already outside of the womb... were I to get pregnant again, my priority would be the daughter I already have should complications arise with my pregnancy. 

[marieelissa]

Abortions are bad in the eyes of God, If you're not ready for a child or want one, then the 100% way to make sure it won't happen is not have sex or get your tubes tied. If one day you want one then get norplant or something.

[mattymatt79]

So what, 18 weeks? 20 weeks? Babies have lived as early as 16 weeks.

3 weeks a hearbeat is detected
6 weeks brain waves and kicking is started.

You would be ok with a 1st term abortion but not 2nd or 3rd?

I have no problems with abortions that were decided upon by a woman and a qualified physician.  Every case is different.  My concern is with the people who are already outside of the womb... were I to get pregnant again, my priority would be the daughter I already have should complications arise with my pregnancy. 

I can see your point and you make a very very valid one. Obviously I can't really speak about the "what I would do" or the "what would my wife and I do
 actually.
But to question your first sentence that you have no problem with it between woman and qualified physician you stated earlier when they're viable, which could be as early as 16 weeks, which is outside of the 1st trimester, so you're ok with late term abortions? Or am I misreading what you're trying to get across?

[marieelissa]

I think legally you can't have an abortion after 3 months.