WTH happened in here?

[Annella]

I'm mean really....your being absurd.

Heh, I'm sure jdog found it just as funny as I did that once again, you judged/were critical, grammatically-incorrect style.  And you bolded it to boot.  lol

I did it on purpose to show how your nitpicking was childish.

[Annella]

So the same applies to you then too right? Considering you consider nothing that we say as well.

Let's examine this "I'm rubber, you're glue" assertion, shall we?  What's the major difference between you and I?  I HAVE sincerely been were you've been, the only difference being I was able to get out of my position once I realized I was wrong.

In the end realized that it just made my Faith stronger in what I do believe to be Truth, and the Bible is correct, just like I always knew it was.

You're forgetting one key detail...why does it make your faith stronger?  Because you're stubborn to any and all of the arguments based in reality; none of them matter, you're just too scared to give up your false hope of heaven, your invisible protector, your sense of community with your church.  THIS IS ALWAYS THE REAL ANSWER.

Someone (you) on the other hand can spout their stand of evolution and atheistic rhetoric as "real", when in all fairness has been blown full of holes on so many threads on this forum, it's not funny.

Newsflash: Anyone posting on a forum for $3/mo. is probably not an expert qualified to "tear holes in the fact of evolution".  Your friends copy-pasting from creationist sites might satisfy you, but almost none of it is reputable in the real world.

Even when Sherene posted websites pointing to her key points (as a Christian), you brushed all that aside

No, not entirely.  I thought about god supposedly only murdering sinful people in the OT like she claims, that was just the harsh punishment, etc.  I really did.  However, because I've been on both sides of the coin, I can now accurately judge which one is correct, and it's not Christianity.  I am not clouded by my feelings like Christianity requires; therefore, I'm able to clearly see all of the problems with it.  The reason you can't is due to your feelings and a deep-seated need for it to be true.  I, on the other hand, am brave enough to face reality for what it really is - not just what I want it to be.  

Would you want to know if god didn't really exist?  A lot of people would say no.  Not me.

Are you implying that I'm still in the dark ages?

What technology you own thanks to science wasn't my point.  You've got a body in the 21st century and a mind that predates the Dark Ages.  A collection of said minds holds back and hinders scientific and societal progress.  Things aren't nearly as advanced as they could be.

All your nonsense posted above is nothing more than an effort to muddy my conviction in what I believe.....good luck  lol

And your tone proves you're dogmatic to the core.  You make bold assertions like "I know the Bible is true" - no, you don't know.  If you were intellectually honest at all you'd be able to admit that you only believe, based on very feeble evidence, and primarily because of your FEELINGS.  A.k.a. not logic, reason, or facts.

How about I've seen prophecy being fulfilled that was written for our time when the Bible was written?  I've tested it's truths and found them to be dead on.  The spiritual gifts given to man are in operation in the body of Christ TODAY!  I've provided evidence before....did you believe it?  NO!  I do know the Bible is True.  Truer than anything I've ever come up against...science or otherwise.  My relationship with the lover of my soul has no fear in it.  Logic, reason, or facts are something tangible in the world we live in, however, also in living for God to a point.  Then there is that Spiritual realm where logic, reason, and fact don't apply because it's well.....spiritual.  Something that anybody who stands on the outside and mocks it will never understand, or be witness to it's power.  That's how God made it in His wisdom.  I can turn right around and call your arguments feeble evidence!

Sherene gave you good research and evidence to debunk your stance.  You then turned around and called her research unsound because of the websites she used.  What a hypocrite you are, when the websites you use are Atheistic in nature to prove your point.  So what your saying is that your point has merit but ours does not?  Kind of like what your accusing me of huh?

As far as your argument about being a Christian before, you don't know much about it.  I guarantee whatever Christian based movement you were in, short changed you, or you didn't pay attention.  My guess is that you nit picked everything to death, and rebelled because you didn't like the answers you got.  Since you made your choice to leave Christianity, your determined now to "rail" on others that actually saw the redeeming power of Christ and stayed around.....unlike you did.  Your argument that you see "both sides" is full of holes.  You can say all you want that it's not real, and I can say I doubt your reference that you really were a follower of Christ (which the word Christian means).  Your statement of "both sides of the coin" has leaks in it. 

Your assessment of my mind being in the dark ages is laughable.  You and your cronies sure give us a lot of power how we can hold back science, progress, and society moving forward.  Man!!  We are a powerful force!  Do we scare you that bad?  Well get ready, because you haven't seen anything yet.  We are at the very doors of change, and not the change Obama is talking about either...lol  Go read Daniel, Ezekiel, and then Revelations.  Oh that's right....you don't believe in the Bible.  Oh well, I guess your going to have to be in the dark yourself.

[shernajwine]

It's kind of like when we talk about atheists who converted to Christianity and we are told that they weren't really atheist, otherwise they would not have converted. But if we use it the other way around, then we are wrong.

[Annella]

It's kind of like when we talk about atheists who converted to Christianity and we are told that they weren't really atheist, otherwise they would not have converted. But if we use it the other way around, then we are wrong.

Sherene sweetie, I'm writing you an email.  Sorry it's taking me so long to get back to you.  Crazy morning, then I got hung up here.  Thank you for your love and support.

[jcribb16]

A lot of people don't want to read Daniel, Ezekiel, and Revelations (prophecies fulfilled, being fulfilled, and will be fulfilled) just because of the very truth of them.  They would be amazed to read of prophecy being fulfilled even today in this world.  And to think prophecies are also given of what's to come - not something I would want to be in, including any of my family, relatives, friends, and acquaintances.  In actuality, I wouldn't want anyone to go through what's to come.

[SurveyMack10]

I have no problem with "Christians" or any other group of people with the sole exception of people who think they are in anyway superior then anyone else, that goes for anyone regardless of their beliefs or lack there of.

I have never been one to sugar coat any of my words and have more of a chance for someone mis-understand my stance. It is also very hard for me to show respect to someone which I have none for.

Everyone in here knows that I show respect towards respectable people.

Well put!! And I know exactly what you mean. NO ONE is better than another just for what someone does in life. Its actually really distasteful coming on here and seeing allot of what people say and type to others. And regarding another post anyone can learn more about any belief. That pisses me off that you would tell someone to pick one and stay with it. GROW UP. There is more to the world than religion and your flock of sheep.

Amy, if you want to address me feel free to be mature and call me out  by name. Furthermore, read the whole thread. I was referring to her being on another thread claiming to be Baptist then coming on this thread speaking as an atheist and just going along with what others say--I never claimed she had to pick MY religion just that lying is useless.  I could care less what religion she is, but she just says stuff to fuel the fire, so feel free to think before ya speak next time.

[SurveyMack10]

I have no problem with "Christians" or any other group of people with the sole exception of people who think they are in anyway superior then anyone else, that goes for anyone regardless of their beliefs or lack there of.

I have never been one to sugar coat any of my words and have more of a chance for someone mis-understand my stance. It is also very hard for me to show respect to someone which I have none for.

Everyone in here knows that I show respect towards respectable people.

Well put!! And I know exactly what you mean. NO ONE is better than another just for what someone does in life. Its actually really distasteful coming on here and seeing allot of what people say and type to others. And regarding another post anyone can learn more about any belief. That pisses me off that you would tell someone to pick one and stay with it. GROW UP. There is more to the world than religion and your flock of sheep.

Amy, if you want to address me feel free to be mature and call me out  by name. Furthermore, read the whole thread. I was referring to her being on another thread claiming to be Baptist then coming on this thread speaking as an atheist and just going along with what others say--I never claimed she had to pick MY religion just that lying is useless.  I could care less what religion she is, but she just says stuff to fuel the fire, so feel free to think before ya speak next time.

you don't know me, so don't act like you do. People can change, in fact I change every day. Sorry, you always stay the same. I have been with Fusion Cash for over a year. I am sorry but I have changed a lot since then. So going through old posts is not relevant.

Marie I was referring to stuff you said a few weeks ago if even that long

[SurveyMack10]

Can't you see that the only person you make look bad is yourself?

Allrighty, that'll be the end of this conversation with you. Not getting into another little war, just what you want.

Cool.

[jordandog]

Annella:

Jordandog and qon. Neither one of you believe the Bible or that there is a God. The fact that I do quote scripture to make my point makes you angry. It comes with the territory. It's my career. You have posted long posts on your career jordondog. Don't I have the right to post my stance or opinion, even if it disagrees with yours?

Wait a minute - you are actually comparing what I do to your 'career'? I believe I have integrated what I do for a living in a total of 5 or 6 posts because it happened to be pertinent to the discussion. I do NOT post medical info, quote jargon from textbooks, journals, C.E. symposiums, or anything else in 98% of my replies. That is the opposite of what you do, so I hardly think there is a comparison. You can take this anyway you want, but your 'career' up against mine? I deal in the real world, using real methods, and actual interpretation of facts. I do not do it by using words that have NO factual basis - yes, I know to you all they do. If I talked people into healing, there just might be a comparison. Don't get me going on how many people, from newborns to the elderly, I have seen die unnecessarily because of screwed up religious beliefs that told them to deny medical treatment. I am still worried that the men in your church who (supposedly) were 'ravaged by AIDS' stopped treatments. They were NOT 'cured', they can infect others, and they will die and you have NO idea how much that bothers me and how many times it crosses my mind. That is a very touchy subject for me, so please don't pull out the 'miracle card'. I have already written there are things that can't be explained.

Jordondog, according to you, my love on here is false. My postings of prayer for someone, or "hearts" etc., you called phony. Your attack on my character is absolutely the very thing your accusing me of.

NO, you took that partially out of context. I said [not exact words] they were applied to your chosen few on here that believe and think along the same lines - those I cannot say are false, only you know your feelings, not me. I said I detest fake fawning out of anyone and that is how some of it comes across in my opinion - this is a public forum, not a Hallmark card making site. You seem to go overboard on it whenever things get heated between the 2 sides of the debates. If anyone is being attacked, all of a sudden out comes all the platitudes and it's the passive-aggressive you do not seem to be able to understand even though others seem to. It's like the parent who beats the child and tells them they are "doing it because they love them". You throw down with a personal attack on someone and then turn around and tell the next how much you love them or whatever it is. You don't realize that NONE of US (unless the others do and I am not privy to it) - me, QON, Walks, Falconer, etc. - talk on the phone, e-mail each other, Facebook post, etc., but you do. We do not know what the other one is going to post, yet we all seem to be on the same page even if it is NOT something to do with the Bible. Now, why is that? We don't get together and 'plot' what we are going to say. You have FAR more believers on here now than non-believers yet you make it sound as if we 3 are are huge pack of feral dogs waiting to sink our teeth into your leg. It is really quite comical and shows insecurity more than anything. While saying that, let me add this. I found it very interesting that QON can and has taken umpteen pages in multiple threads of very personal 'attacks' from all of you posting one right after the other, but rarely has one of 'us' jumped in to intercede for her. In those cases it is the many against the one, but she doesn't seem to take it personally which is what debating is supposed to be. We all get down to a personal level at times, as I have also said before. Too many times anything said against religion et al, and not specifically what all of you believe, is taken as a personal attack when it's not. There have been plenty of times I have wanted to defend QON, but I don't feel it is my place. I have said if she wants to defend her stance, she is more than capable of it without help. If anyone is strong in what they stand for, then attacks come with the territory and should be almost expected. Hey, at least we still agree on ice-cream and long naps, right?

[SurveyMack10]

I have no problem with "Christians" or any other group of people with the sole exception of people who think they are in anyway superior then anyone else, that goes for anyone regardless of their beliefs or lack there of.

I have never been one to sugar coat any of my words and have more of a chance for someone mis-understand my stance. It is also very hard for me to show respect to someone which I have none for.

Everyone in here knows that I show respect towards respectable people.

Well put!! And I know exactly what you mean. NO ONE is better than another just for what someone does in life. Its actually really distasteful coming on here and seeing allot of what people say and type to others. And regarding another post anyone can learn more about any belief. That pisses me off that you would tell someone to pick one and stay with it. GROW UP. There is more to the world than religion and your flock of sheep.

Amy, if you want to address me feel free to be mature and call me out  by name. Furthermore, read the whole thread. I was referring to her being on another thread claiming to be Baptist then coming on this thread speaking as an atheist and just going along with what others say--I never claimed she had to pick MY religion just that lying is useless.  I could care less what religion she is, but she just says stuff to fuel the fire, so feel free to think before ya speak next time.

you don't know me, so don't act like you do. People can change, in fact I change every day. Sorry, you always stay the same. I have been with Fusion Cash for over a year. I am sorry but I have changed a lot since then. So going through old posts is not relevant.

Marie I was referring to stuff you said a few weeks ago if even that long

More like several months ago.

Didn't post in D&D several months ago.

[Annella]

Annella:

Jordandog and qon. Neither one of you believe the Bible or that there is a God. The fact that I do quote scripture to make my point makes you angry. It comes with the territory. It's my career. You have posted long posts on your career jordondog. Don't I have the right to post my stance or opinion, even if it disagrees with yours?

Wait a minute - you are actually comparing what I do to your 'career'? I believe I have integrated what I do for a living in a total of 5 or 6 posts because it happened to be pertinent to the discussion. I do NOT post medical info, quote jargon from textbooks, journals, C.E. symposiums, or anything else in 98% of my replies. That is the opposite of what you do, so I hardly think there is a comparison. You can take this anyway you want, but your 'career' up against mine? I deal in the real world, using real methods, and actual interpretation of facts. I do not do it by using words that have NO factual basis - yes, I know to you all they do. If I talked people into healing, there just might be a comparison. Don't get me going on how many people, from newborns to the elderly, I have seen die unnecessarily because of screwed up religious beliefs that told them to deny medical treatment. I am still worried that the men in your church who (supposedly) were 'ravaged by AIDS' stopped treatments. They were NOT 'cured', they can infect others, and they will die and you have NO idea how much that bothers me and how many times it crosses my mind. That is a very touchy subject for me, so please don't pull out the 'miracle card'. I have already written there are things that can't be explained.

Jordondog, according to you, my love on here is false. My postings of prayer for someone, or "hearts" etc., you called phony. Your attack on my character is absolutely the very thing your accusing me of.

NO, you took that partially out of context. I said [not exact words] they were applied to your chosen few on here that believe and think along the same lines - those I cannot say are false, only you know your feelings, not me. I said I detest fake fawning out of anyone and that is how some of it comes across in my opinion - this is a public forum, not a Hallmark card making site. You seem to go overboard on it whenever things get heated between the 2 sides of the debates. If anyone is being attacked, all of a sudden out comes all the platitudes and it's the passive-aggressive you do not seem to be able to understand even though others seem to. It's like the parent who beats the child and tells them they are "doing it because they love them". You throw down with a personal attack on someone and then turn around and tell the next how much you love them or whatever it is. You don't realize that NONE of US (unless the others do and I am not privy to it) - me, QON, Walks, Falconer, etc. - talk on the phone, e-mail each other, Facebook post, etc., but you do. We do not know what the other one is going to post, yet we all seem to be on the same page even if it is NOT something to do with the Bible. Now, why is that? We don't get together and 'plot' what we are going to say. You have FAR more believers on here now than non-believers yet you make it sound as if we 3 are are huge pack of feral dogs waiting to sink our teeth into your leg. It is really quite comical and shows insecurity more than anything. While saying that, let me add this. I found it very interesting that QON can and has taken umpteen pages in multiple threads of very personal 'attacks' from all of you posting one right after the other, but rarely has one of 'us' jumped in to intercede for her. In those cases it is the many against the one, but she doesn't seem to take it personally which is what debating is supposed to be. We all get down to a personal level at times, as I have also said before. Too many times anything said against religion et al, and not specifically what all of you believe, is taken as a personal attack when it's not. There have been plenty of times I have wanted to defend QON, but I don't feel it is my place. I have said if she wants to defend her stance, she is more than capable of it without help. If anyone is strong in what they stand for, then attacks come with the territory and should be almost expected. Hey, at least we still agree on ice-cream and long naps, right?

Since it's a touchy subject with you and you demanding me not to pull out the "miracle card" kind of tells me "I believe what I want, and don't want to give you a bit of leeway in what you believe".  Here it is "Miracle Card". I've offered to give you names and numbers of people I don't know or have any contact with, to tell you that AIDS victims have been "healed" of AIDS.  You refused!!  Implying that they would probably say they were healed or give testimony of such so I shouldn't bother.  So what you were really saying is that you believed they would be lying to you?  Well....the offer has been rescinded, and you can deny all you want, you will not be provided with anything from here on out.  As far as an AIDS person infecting another would require some pretty close contact (sexual).  Are you implying that we are in favor of extramarital relations?  You should know better than that. Somehow I find it very funny that these people that have had AIDS, and are now healed, have not infected ANYBODY for years.  

Well, thank you for making my career so much less important than yours.  Uh, yes you have posted medical jargon, textbook subjects and such.  Why don't you just come out and say you don't like me posting my Christian beliefs and be done with it.  All your explanation is basically saying this, so just say it.

As far as us Christians getting together and plotting what we are going to say on this forum is ludicrous, and imaginary thinking on your part!  Not one of us Christians that have contact outside this forum "plots" anything to write here.  What we do talk about is actually none of your business since it's friends exchanging private happenings or thoughts among us.  So you can surmise all you want, or imagine what you think is going on, but you would be wrong.  We have so many other things to attend to, besides you....and this forum.  If you and your cronies don't get together....well, what has that got to do with the price of bread?  We happen to like each others company outside of this venue.  Maybe you 3 wouldn't like each other?  Just a thought.

As far as coming to defense of qon, walksalone, etc., I've seen you all come to each others defense. I've also observed all of  you gang up on one person, and try to take them down verbally.  No I'm not talking just me either. What you don't like is the united front that we Christians have for each other.  Or the LOVE   we have for our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.  As far as posting a "Hallmark" moment as you accused me of doing. Believe me, there are not enough icons to explain my love for whomever I want to express it. Which is also none of your business!  When you start writing the rules of this forum, then you can complain.

Wait a minute!!!  Are you comparing your postings next to ours?  I mean really?  Yes, we all post on a personal level at times, but we don't call names, and get down with your kind of filthy talk (cursing and what not).  When that happens, we come to defense of our friends, sisters, or brothers.  You don't like the fact that we do defend each other.  You would like the opportunity to verbally "shred" whoever you want without any opposition!!  Let me remind you just recently you called me a "b"!!  Has any Christian called you anything like that on this forum?  NO!! So quit whining about people defending others from your verbal onslaught.  Debating is one thing, attacking is another. Learn the difference!  If I want to intercede for my friends on here or they for me, what in the world is that to you?? Attacks do not come with the territory.  It's a DEBATE and DISCUSS forum!  Are you really standing on what you wrote?  Attacks come with the territory?  There's a way to debate that does not require an attacking mode. Not one Christian on here will attack anyone.  Sometimes they get attacked or provoked so severely as they have no other choice but to defend themselves.

[jordandog]

Annella:

Jordandog and qon. Neither one of you believe the Bible or that there is a God. The fact that I do quote scripture to make my point makes you angry. It comes with the territory. It's my career. You have posted long posts on your career jordondog. Don't I have the right to post my stance or opinion, even if it disagrees with yours?

Wait a minute - you are actually comparing what I do to your 'career'? I believe I have integrated what I do for a living in a total of 5 or 6 posts because it happened to be pertinent to the discussion. I do NOT post medical info, quote jargon from textbooks, journals, C.E. symposiums, or anything else in 98% of my replies. That is the opposite of what you do, so I hardly think there is a comparison. You can take this anyway you want, but your 'career' up against mine? I deal in the real world, using real methods, and actual interpretation of facts. I do not do it by using words that have NO factual basis - yes, I know to you all they do. If I talked people into healing, there just might be a comparison. Don't get me going on how many people, from newborns to the elderly, I have seen die unnecessarily because of screwed up religious beliefs that told them to deny medical treatment. I am still worried that the men in your church who (supposedly) were 'ravaged by AIDS' stopped treatments. They were NOT 'cured', they can infect others, and they will die and you have NO idea how much that bothers me and how many times it crosses my mind. That is a very touchy subject for me, so please don't pull out the 'miracle card'. I have already written there are things that can't be explained.

Jordondog, according to you, my love on here is false. My postings of prayer for someone, or "hearts" etc., you called phony. Your attack on my character is absolutely the very thing your accusing me of.

NO, you took that partially out of context. I said [not exact words] they were applied to your chosen few on here that believe and think along the same lines - those I cannot say are false, only you know your feelings, not me. I said I detest fake fawning out of anyone and that is how some of it comes across in my opinion - this is a public forum, not a Hallmark card making site. You seem to go overboard on it whenever things get heated between the 2 sides of the debates. If anyone is being attacked, all of a sudden out comes all the platitudes and it's the passive-aggressive you do not seem to be able to understand even though others seem to. It's like the parent who beats the child and tells them they are "doing it because they love them". You throw down with a personal attack on someone and then turn around and tell the next how much you love them or whatever it is. You don't realize that NONE of US (unless the others do and I am not privy to it) - me, QON, Walks, Falconer, etc. - talk on the phone, e-mail each other, Facebook post, etc., but you do. We do not know what the other one is going to post, yet we all seem to be on the same page even if it is NOT something to do with the Bible. Now, why is that? We don't get together and 'plot' what we are going to say. You have FAR more believers on here now than non-believers yet you make it sound as if we 3 are are huge pack of feral dogs waiting to sink our teeth into your leg. It is really quite comical and shows insecurity more than anything. While saying that, let me add this. I found it very interesting that QON can and has taken umpteen pages in multiple threads of very personal 'attacks' from all of you posting one right after the other, but rarely has one of 'us' jumped in to intercede for her. In those cases it is the many against the one, but she doesn't seem to take it personally which is what debating is supposed to be. We all get down to a personal level at times, as I have also said before. Too many times anything said against religion et al, and not specifically what all of you believe, is taken as a personal attack when it's not. There have been plenty of times I have wanted to defend QON, but I don't feel it is my place. I have said if she wants to defend her stance, she is more than capable of it without help. If anyone is strong in what they stand for, then attacks come with the territory and should be almost expected. Hey, at least we still agree on ice-cream and long naps, right?

Since it's a touchy subject with you and you demanding me not to pull out the "miracle card" kind of tells me "I believe what I want, and don't want to give you a bit of leeway in what you believe".  Here it is "Miracle Card". I've offered to give you names and numbers of people I don't know or have any contact with, to tell you that AIDS victims have been "healed" of AIDS.  You refused!!  Implying that they would probably say they were healed or give testimony of such so I shouldn't bother.  So what you were really saying is that you believed they would be lying to you?  Well....the offer has been rescinded, and you can deny all you want, you will not be provided with anything from here on out.  As far as an AIDS person infecting another would require some pretty close contact (sexual).  Are you implying that we are in favor of extramarital relations?  You should know better than that. Somehow I find it very funny that these people that have had AIDS, and are now healed, have not infected ANYBODY for years.  

Well, thank you for making my career so much less important than yours.  Uh, yes you have posted medical jargon, textbook subjects and such.  Why don't you just come out and say you don't like me posting my Christian beliefs and be done with it.  All your explanation is basically saying this, so just say it.

As far as us Christians getting together and plotting what we are going to say on this forum is ludicrous, and imaginary thinking on your part!  Not one of us Christians that have contact outside this forum "plots" anything to write here.  What we do talk about is actually none of your business since it's friends exchanging private happenings or thoughts among us.  So you can surmise all you want, or imagine what you think is going on, but you would be wrong.  We have so many other things to attend to, besides you....and this forum.  If you and your cronies don't get together....well, what has that got to do with the price of bread?  We happen to like each others company outside of this venue.  Maybe you 3 wouldn't like each other?  Just a thought.

As far as coming to defense of qon, walksalone, etc., I've seen you all come to each others defense. I've also observed all of  you gang up on one person, and try to take them down verbally.  No I'm not talking just me either. What you don't like is the united front that we Christians have for each other.  Or the LOVE   we have for our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.  As far as posting a "Hallmark" moment as you accused me of doing. Believe me, there are not enough icons to explain my love for whomever I want to express it. Which is also none of your business!  When you start writing the rules of this forum, then you can complain.

Wait a minute!!!  Are you comparing your postings next to ours?  I mean really?  Yes, we all post on a personal level at times, but we don't call names, and get down with your kind of filthy talk (cursing and what not).  When that happens, we come to defense of our friends, sisters, or brothers.  You don't like the fact that we do defend each other.  You would like the opportunity to verbally "shred" whoever you want without any opposition!!  Let me remind you just recently you called me a "b"!!  Has any Christian called you anything like that on this forum?  NO!! So quit whining about people defending others from your verbal onslaught.  Debating is one thing, attacking is another. Learn the difference!  If I want to intercede for my friends on here or they for me, what in the world is that to you?? Attacks do not come with the territory.  It's a DEBATE and DISCUSS forum!  Are you really standing on what you wrote?  Attacks come with the territory?  There's a way to debate that does not require an attacking mode. Not one Christian on here will attack anyone.  Sometimes they get attacked or provoked so severely as they have no other choice but to defend themselves.

You did not even read my words because your entire rebuttal was put down as replying to things I didn't say period, I didn't say the way YOU rewrote/interpreted them OR you implied what MY thoughts and reasons were for what I wrote when you have no idea what I think. I am NOT going through the entire thing but will give a couple glaring examples.
1)What you put down as to why I didn't want the numbers from AIDS patients IS NOT WHAT I SAID. I also said in my post that I have already stated there are THINGS THAT CANNOT BE EXPLAINED.
2)"Uh, yes you have posted medical jargon, textbook subjects and such."  Did I say I didn't? NO, what I did say was:I do NOT post medical info, quote jargon from textbooks, journals, C.E. symposiums, or anything else in 98% of my replies.
3) I NEVER SAID any of you plotted, read what I actually did say when I when I brought up contact outside of FC. I do NOT care who you talk to, what you do, or how you feel about anyone. I said previously THAT IS YOUR BUSINESS AND NOT MINE.

If you are going to reply to someone get the words correct in how they are stated, don't rewrite someone's post, and don't 'imply' something that does not even exist. What was with you saying "get down with your filthy talk (cursing and what not)"?! When do I use filthy talk and curse, because you better back it up if you are going to accuse ME of that. Yes, I said lately you were acting like a *bleep* - BIG DEAL. I don't talk filthy and I rarely curse, so maybe you better direct that at who does, eh? I just wish someone, anyone would read these posts and tell me whether you even read and understood what I actually wrote. You accused 502 of not reading replies? I don't care how worked up, how emphatic, or how personal you want to get when you talk to me. I do NOT even care how much you detest or hate me please reply to what I actually write and NOT what you want to turn it into so you can be 'right'! Have the decency to read all posts, NOT just mine (you seem to have a bad habit of doing this), until you are able to answer them with some semblance of truth and order and quit with the 'implying', it is nothing but an extreme annoyance. "We have so many other things to attend to, besides you....and this forum." Wow!Really? Gee, I don't - other than working 60-70 hours/week. That was a very well thought out remark on your part.....

[Annella]

I'm not even going to comment how you implicate things, and then feign innocence.  Obviously we do not agree....nor will we.  I have no desire to measure/weigh/pick apart words or your meaning attached to them, how many hours you worked, what you meant what you said, etc.  I mean really?  Come on!

Uh, when did I say I hated or detested you?  Or is that just another implication that you actually don't mean that way, but another way, but want to "put it out there".......for....whatever reason?

People aren't stupid, and they can read everything, and make up their own minds.  I actually have company coming over for a wonderful evening, and this doesn't even make my semi-priority list.  Have a nice evening yourself. 

[Cuppycake]

Yep, I have several people who hate me now.  lol  Suppose it's to be expected, though, when I'm attempting to rip away their invisible security blankets and replace them with something tangible.   

Not me! I love you! ♥

Yep, I have several people who hate me now.  lol  Suppose it's to be expected, though, when I'm attempting to rip away their invisible security blankets and replace them with something tangible.   

Nope, no way could I hate you!     
P.S.  "invisible security blanket" may well be the best way to put that.  It's better than invisible insecurity blanket!!  Thanks for the great idea!

I agree lol! It was awesome!

I don't know, I must of missed something. 

Huh?  Are you talking to me Marie?

2 peas in a pod...

He reveals himself every day...

Yeah, like to the starving and dying children who can't even get medical care and die at ge 2-3 or before the even turn 1 in afganistan and north korea. and to the homeless people who are homeless at no fault of their own all over the world.

But haven't you realized yet he only shows himself to those who are in a coma state of mind. I will call them desperate housewives.
And to answer the real question at hand, because logic & science makes a great argument against the so called god. If someone worshipped lets say a pickle you would stand up and ask why,, well so do people on the god issue. I have not seen more hate come from life but from the god word... Wars starting,, in god we trust,,, pffff. Forums like this debating but yet not really people fight over what??? the god word. My daughter was held down and beat last week, yes you can actually look it up on my hometown newspaper,, why the GOD that so many people throw themselves upon. God is nothing more than a judgemental word and a cash cow for churches.

I hope your daughter is okay!

The one thing that has always gotten me is that people that believe in god are supposed to accept everyone.. BUT... if you don't believe in god, they (the ppl that do believe in god) make you feel like crap, tell you you're wrong... etc.

It's obvious you haven't read many threads on this forum.  You need to pull up some threads, and read through them, and then tell me if the Christians on here are just trying to make people feel bad.  Your statement is hardly fair.  The atheists and agnostics on this forum have done a pretty good job of verbally burning Christians at the stake.

Also, you need to evaluate what is actually making you feel like "crap" (as you put it).  Could it be something in the Bible they have brought out?  If it is, then it's not the person, it's the Bible that you have a problem with.  Most of the Christians on here love everybody, and post such.
 

Actually there was a time when I went to church... after I left, the people of the church put me and others down, telling us that we were wrong, and that we made a huge mistake, and that if we don't accept Christ into our life, we would forever burn. The people who were from my church, that claimed to be my brothers and sisters, shunned me and others because we left. I'm not saying that every Christian puts non believers down, but in my experience, 99% of Christians do. 

And I have read the forums, and I spoke my opinion once and was told to "STFU" by a supposed Christian. (and what I said had nothing to do with that person at all. She was just angry because I had my own beliefs.

Churches are nothing more then brainwashing cults that prey on clueless, mindless, and those down on their luck. Be GLAD not to be apart of their hogwash!

And even if you quote the whole damn bible you are not going to get us to believe that....GOT IT??? if you are addressing your post IE; sermons to us, just save it for sunday and your minions. GOT IT???

That is right! Brainwashing only works on the weak-minded!

[shernajwine]

There go unnecessary insults again.

I go to church and I love it! You don't know me! You cannot call me mindless, clueless, or weak minded simply because I go to church and based on my religion. How arrogant and rude!