Palestine........

[amyrouse]

The you tube video is nothing more than a terrorrist government showing innocent children being affected by war.  Israel has a right to protect their people.  When Palestine lobs mortars and missiles into Israel, Israelian children are killed and hurt too.  War is terrible! Period.  Peace talks are the only thing that will stop this fighting.  When given numerous opportunities to come to the table, Palestine refuses to do so.  The money we give Israel is to help them stay strong against Arab countries surrounding them in all directions.  When Arab countries continue to say, "Israel must be wiped off the map," Israel must defend it-self at all costs.  Israel was given that land after WW II.  The entire world at that time made that decision.  Israel must defend themselves at all times.  Terrorrists continue to kill the young children of Israel by lobbying missiles and mortars.  The movie is intended for those of us who nothing about the history of Israel and tries to blame all of the killing on Israel.  This just isn't true.

The killing isn't one sided but what exactly has Israel done except continue to push Palestinians out, then blame them when things turn violent? Of course, nothing is ever accomplished. The hatred runs too deep on both sides. It's like The Neverending Story, but way less fun. We could be rebuilding parts of Louisiana destroyed during Katrina, fixing our broken school systems, or helping the Mexicans fight cartels who are kidnapping and killing our people. No, instead we'll continue to throw money into a bottomless pit and be stuck in the middle of an endless conflict. It also doesn't make me think Israel is exactly grateful for our help, when someone runs over one of our citizens with a bulldozer because she was protesting the destruction of Palestinian homes.

As a Jew that dreams of one day visiting Israel, this type of attitude hurts me deeply.  I'm not saying anything else here because this topic is so close to me that I don't want to say something I'll later regret.

[Annella]

Okay...Delta has gogo so I can use the laptop in flight.  Kinda cool really.

In no way am I the authority about everything Israel.  However, Walksalone, it's clearly written in the Old Testament how God gave the land (of Israel) to the Jews for an inheritance forever.  He also laid out the boundaries of the land of Israel in the Bible.  It definitely is not what IS laid out.....at the present.

I don't want to offend Amy in any way, so I'll stop with this post.  Love you Amy

[shernajwine]

Okay...Delta has gogo so I can use the laptop in flight.  Kinda cool really.

Have fun Annella! 

[amyrouse]

Okay...Delta has gogo so I can use the laptop in flight.  Kinda cool really.

In no way am I the authority about everything Israel.  However, Walksalone, it's clearly written in the Old Testament how God gave the land (of Israel) to the Jews for an inheritance forever.  He also laid out the boundaries of the land of Israel in the Bible.  It definitely is not what was originally laid out.....at the present.

I don't want to offend Amy in any way, so I'll stop with this post.  Love you Amy

Oh, Annella...I have no problem with truth.  I take issue, though, with the hurtful attitude that the Israeli's are just pushing Palestine out and blaming them for everything and are full of hatred and ungrateful. 

I agree...there is much that is wrong in Israel...and neither side is innocent.  I cannot agree, however, with the view that Israel is this type of wrong...not when it was the Jews that originally inhabited the land and have been repeatedly pushed out since the first time they were pushed out...I am not idealistic or innocent to the fact that atrocities have been committed on behalf of both sides...I cannot sit back, though, and see someone wrongly accuse the Israelis in this manner without letting it be known that it hurts me. 

I will not say something, though, against someone who disagrees with me.  I think that those who view the Israelis this way are wrong, but I'm sure they disagree with me, too.  And...I will not stifle someone else's speech.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether or not it is based on research or knowledge or hand fed to them.  This is a topic I will not debate on because of how personal it is to me (much more than homosexuality, and I got pretty heated and emotional there) and because I do not wish to break any more mitzvot than I already have...words are powerful, and I try to be as careful as possible with what I say and write...once it is out there, there is no taking it back.

[Annella]

Oh, Annella...I have no problem with truth.  I take issue, though, with the hurtful attitude that the Israeli's are just pushing Palestine out and blaming them for everything and are full of hatred and ungrateful.  

I agree...there is much that is wrong in Israel...and neither side is innocent.  I cannot agree, however, with the view that Israel is this type of wrong...not when it was the Jews that originally inhabited the land and have been repeatedly pushed out since the first time they were pushed out...I am not idealistic or innocent to the fact that atrocities have been committed on behalf of both sides...I cannot sit back, though, and see someone wrongly accuse the Israelis in this manner without letting it be known that it hurts me.  

I will not say something, though, against someone who disagrees with me.  I think that those who view the Israelis this way are wrong, but I'm sure they disagree with me, too.  And...I will not stifle someone else's speech.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion, whether or not it is based on research or knowledge or hand fed to them.  This is a topic I will not debate on because of how personal it is to me (much more than homosexuality, and I got pretty heated and emotional there) and because I do not wish to break any more mitzvot than I already have...words are powerful, and I try to be as careful as possible with what I say and write...once it is out there, there is no taking it back.

I find myself defending her (Israel).  Sometimes not a popular stance.  When has that stopped me though huh?  LOL  Just know that I love your land as much as anyone who calls themselves Jewish.

Have fun Annella!

Not to far this time.  Just over the border a bit.  I can still access FC.  It will be good to see some dear friends during my other activities.  Kind of a working vacation.

[jcribb16]

   I'm glad you can keep up on here, Annella! 

[freepcmoney]

It is the Muslims/Palestenians JOB/BELIEF/RELIGION/DUTY/REQUIREMENT to KILL ALL JEWS. The Muslim religion is NOT just a religion. IT IS A POLITICAL MOVEMENT. They are ALL brinwashed from early childhood to HATE, KILL everyone who is not a Muslim.

 

[FuzzyCottonsocks]

The you tube video is nothing more than a terrorrist government showing innocent children being affected by war.  Israel has a right to protect their people.  When Palestine lobs mortars and missiles into Israel, Israelian children are killed and hurt too.  War is terrible! Period.  Peace talks are the only thing that will stop this fighting.  When given numerous opportunities to come to the table, Palestine refuses to do so.  The money we give Israel is to help them stay strong against Arab countries surrounding them in all directions.  When Arab countries continue to say, "Israel must be wiped off the map," Israel must defend it-self at all costs.  Israel was given that land after WW II.  The entire world at that time made that decision.  Israel must defend themselves at all times.  Terrorrists continue to kill the young children of Israel by lobbying missiles and mortars.  The movie is intended for those of us who nothing about the history of Israel and tries to blame all of the killing on Israel.  This just isn't true.

The killing isn't one sided but what exactly has Israel done except continue to push Palestinians out, then blame them when things turn violent? Of course, nothing is ever accomplished. The hatred runs too deep on both sides. It's like The Neverending Story, but way less fun. We could be rebuilding parts of Louisiana destroyed during Katrina, fixing our broken school systems, or helping the Mexicans fight cartels who are kidnapping and killing our people. No, instead we'll continue to throw money into a bottomless pit and be stuck in the middle of an endless conflict. It also doesn't make me think Israel is exactly grateful for our help, when someone runs over one of our citizens with a bulldozer because she was protesting the destruction of Palestinian homes.

As a Jew that dreams of one day visiting Israel, this type of attitude hurts me deeply.  I'm not saying anything else here because this topic is so close to me that I don't want to say something I'll later regret.

Honestly and truly, I'm sorry I hurt you.  My wording was harsh. The bulldozer incident made me very angry. I felt it was a slap in the face to say the least, when our nations are supposed to be allies. I feel our time and money could be better spent fixing our own problems. That's the bottom line.

[Annella]

The you tube video is nothing more than a terrorrist government showing innocent children being affected by war.  Israel has a right to protect their people.  When Palestine lobs mortars and missiles into Israel, Israelian children are killed and hurt too.  War is terrible! Period.  Peace talks are the only thing that will stop this fighting.  When given numerous opportunities to come to the table, Palestine refuses to do so.  The money we give Israel is to help them stay strong against Arab countries surrounding them in all directions.  When Arab countries continue to say, "Israel must be wiped off the map," Israel must defend it-self at all costs.  Israel was given that land after WW II.  The entire world at that time made that decision.  Israel must defend themselves at all times.  Terrorrists continue to kill the young children of Israel by lobbying missiles and mortars.  The movie is intended for those of us who nothing about the history of Israel and tries to blame all of the killing on Israel.  This just isn't true.

The killing isn't one sided but what exactly has Israel done except continue to push Palestinians out, then blame them when things turn violent? Of course, nothing is ever accomplished. The hatred runs too deep on both sides. It's like The Neverending Story, but way less fun. We could be rebuilding parts of Louisiana destroyed during Katrina, fixing our broken school systems, or helping the Mexicans fight cartels who are kidnapping and killing our people. No, instead we'll continue to throw money into a bottomless pit and be stuck in the middle of an endless conflict. It also doesn't make me think Israel is exactly grateful for our help, when someone runs over one of our citizens with a bulldozer because she was protesting the destruction of Palestinian homes.

As a Jew that dreams of one day visiting Israel, this type of attitude hurts me deeply.  I'm not saying anything else here because this topic is so close to me that I don't want to say something I'll later regret.

Honestly and truly, I'm sorry I hurt you.  My wording was harsh. The bulldozer incident made me very angry. I felt it was a slap in the face to say the least, when our nations are supposed to be allies. I feel our time and money could be better spent fixing our own problems. That's the bottom line.

Our time and money to Israel is dwarfed by what we send, and devote endless funds/time/rebuilding for other countries.  Israel is a drop in the bucket.  We're accused so many times of fighting wars that have nothing to do with us, or sticking our nose into civil unrest, ect.  Actually, when a revolution coup is taking place, it's the innocent people that are stuck in the middle, and the US tries to help them, feed the, rebuild for them, give them some protection.  Are we correct all the time...no  In the case of Israel though, we are her ally, and that entails protecting her.  Just like the US has allies and enemies in common with other countries.  It's how it works with every country.  We just happen to be the biggest power in her list of allies.  However, Israel has a first class Military in all aspects.  We did help (a little) to "arm" her, so she can protect herself.  Just like other countries are "arming" the Hezbollah, and other terrorist groups to go against Israel.