The Official God Thread - To Discuss God and Seek Answers

[tammyrwa]

There is nothing wrong with skepticism- you you should question things. all I can go is by what the bible offers- the way to have an eternal reward for living for God- sounds easy to me- if you want to get bogged down in all of the technicalities. you can try to get an eternal reward doing something else, but I wouldn't guranetee it. there is no book that I have ever read that tells you to live right, do good, accept someone died for you as Lord and saviour, and you have a mansion in heaven- you try it your way, i'll try it mine.

[jcribb16]

Quote from ljnana:
My wild and crazy brother who died at 50 because of his lifestyle always put people down who said there was a God. He just couldn't understand why people could believe something they couldn't see. He wanted to know so badly, that in the last few months of his life, he accepted Jesus. He saw his thoughts about life changing. He's in heaven now, praise God!

Quote from queenofnines:
How dare you say your brother died *because* he spoke of reason in the face of delusion.  Again, most atheists have real experience believing in a god, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT with this mindset of god belief.

As for your brother, he probably caved under the pressure of knowing he was dying when he chose to accept your pal Jesus.  That is all.

Please stop insulting someone regarding their belief and what happened with her brother.  At least he had a reassurance in his experience, and it's not your concern to call his reasoning delusional. You are talking of a dead brother here, that made his going secure in the Lord.  You are crossing the line of respect with this, qon.

[jcribb16]

Quote from ljnana:
Many of the people who respond with critical remarks about those who do  believe, are some of those who want there to be a God.

Quote from queenofnines:
Uh, no.  Don't you know that the majority of atheists/agnostics/etc. used to be devoted believers themselves???

You really pride yourself on this.  I am glad I am not in your shoes (I already know you wouldn't be in mine.) Your arguments are really beginning to sound like rationalizations for your denouncing of God.

[Falconer02]

Please stop insulting someone regarding their belief and what happened with her brother.  At least he had a reassurance in his experience, and it's not your concern to call his reasoning delusional. You are talking of a dead brother here, that made his going secure in the Lord.  You are crossing the line of respect with this, qon.

This being an argument, I'm sure she didn't mean it in a disrespectful way. It's hard to manuever around personal stories of individuals without stepping on a landmine while in an argument. It happens. I've done this plenty of times.

Your arguments are really beginning to sound like rationalizations for your denouncing of God.

It's true though- most non-believers used to be believers in a religion. If we were raised as NB's, it probably wouldn't be as much of an issue. But since we've experienced it and see the problems, it strikes a harder chord with us.

[jcribb16]

Please stop insulting someone regarding their belief and what happened with her brother.  At least he had a reassurance in his experience, and it's not your concern to call his reasoning delusional. You are talking of a dead brother here, that made his going secure in the Lord.  You are crossing the line of respect with this, qon.

This being an argument, I'm sure she didn't mean it in a disrespectful way. It's hard to manuever around personal stories of individuals without stepping on a landmine while in an argument. It happens. I've done this plenty of times.

Your arguments are really beginning to sound like rationalizations for your denouncing of God.

It's true though- most non-believers used to be believers in a religion. If we were raised as NB's, it probably wouldn't be as much of an issue. But since we've experienced it and see the problems, it strikes a harder chord with us.

I appreciate your comments, Falconer.  I was going by the way she came back at ljnana by saying "How dare you...."  That is not respectful in that type of answer to what the poster was trying to share.
 Thanks for your comment about NB's, and I can see where you are coming from. Like I said to qon before, it really does concern me and make me wonder what in the world happened so major to denounce God that way.

[shernajwine]

If people can sit in bars getting drunk and trying to fill some kind of void with alcohol and meaningless small talk with strangers....
      Why call me stupid for being in church on Sunday morning filling my spirit with the Word of God?

If people can stand up and scream at the top of their lungs and do happy dances at a sports event when their team is winning...
     Why call me crazy for shouting with joy for what God has done for me?

If people can laugh giddily because they are in love....
     Why call me ridiculous for being giddy about my first love Jesus Christ?

If people can hold up their hands and lighters at concerts for a song about the worldly things....
     Why call me silly for lifting my hands in worship to a wonderful God?

Well, it really doesn't matter what you call me because nothing will stop me from being filled with His Word
  Nothing will stop me from shouting for joy
  Nothing will stop me from being giddy about the unconditional love of Jesus
  Nothing will stop me from lifting my hands in worship

So call me whatever you want,
      stupid, crazy, ridiculous, silly; but don't forget to add CHILD OF GOD!  

[jcribb16]

   Sherene, that is one of the best posts I have seen about Christians living for God.  That is excellent!!!!!!!!!!!

I love it!!!!!!     *applause*

[jallicaco]

this is amazing. i love it

             ~jalica

[shernajwine]

I had an AMAZING weekend spent in wonderful worship in the presence of God and I have been refreshed!  
I love my God SO SO much! No one can get me down right now lol.

[Annella]

I had an AMAZING weekend spent in wonderful worship in the presence of God and I have been refreshed!  
I love my God SO SO much! No one can get me down right now lol.

Awww....  Just keep basking in His Glory, your His child

[SurveyMack10]

If people can sit in bars getting drunk and trying to fill some kind of void with alcohol and meaningless small talk with strangers....
      Why call me stupid for being in church on Sunday morning filling my spirit with the Word of God?

If people can stand up and scream at the top of their lungs and do happy dances at a sports event when their team is winning...
     Why call me crazy for shouting with joy for what God has done for me?

If people can laugh giddily because they are in love....
     Why call me ridiculous for being giddy about my first love Jesus Christ?

If people can hold up their hands and lighters at concerts for a song about the worldly things....
     Why call me silly for lifting my hands in worship to a wonderful God?

Well, it really doesn't matter what you call me because nothing will stop me from being filled with His Word
  Nothing will stop me from shouting for joy
  Nothing will stop me from being giddy about the unconditional love of Jesus
  Nothing will stop me from lifting my hands in worship

So call me whatever you want,
      stupid, crazy, ridiculous, silly; but don't forget to add CHILD OF GOD!  

 

[queenofnines]

Is this thread's title like Baskin Robbins?  Does it have 31 flavors?

[queenofnines]

I was going by the way she came back at ljnana by saying "How dare you...."  That is not respectful in that type of answer to what the poster was trying to share.

I said "how dare you" because I didn't think it was respectful of HER to insinuate that because her brother lived a "wild atheist lifestyle", THAT contributed to his early demise.  Did you just skip over that part when reading it?

As for the rest of it, I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, I was just pointing out that a sappy, emotional conversion story is not "evidence" for god whatsoever.

[queenofnines]

If people can sit in bars getting drunk and trying to fill some kind of void with alcohol and meaningless small talk with strangers....
     Why call me stupid for being in church on Sunday morning filling my spirit with the Word of God?

You nailed it on the head - that's exactly what it is (except you cheated and replaced void with "spirit").  * Insert people thinking I'm being disrespectful *  

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If people can stand up and scream at the top of their lungs and do happy dances at a sports event when their team is winning...
     Why call me crazy for shouting with joy for what God has done for me?

Hmm...if plenty of people can have the exact same feelings about things that AREN'T god, kinda seems like said feelings are all in your head.

If people can laugh giddily because they are in love....
    Why call me ridiculous for being giddy about my first love Jesus Christ?

Because their crushes are REAL and yours is...invisible.  Undetectable.  Based on a man that may have never lived at all.

If people can hold up their hands and lighters at concerts for a song about the worldly things....
    Why call me silly for lifting my hands in worship to a wonderful God?

Again, is the strong emotional experience not A CLUE that god is all inside your head??

[jcribb16]

I was going by the way she came back at ljnana by saying "How dare you...."  That is not respectful in that type of answer to what the poster was trying to share.

I said "how dare you" because I didn't think it was respectful of HER to insinuate that because her brother lived a "wild atheist lifestyle", THAT contributed to his early demise.  Did you just skip over that part when reading it?

As for the rest of it, I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, I was just pointing out that a sappy, emotional conversion story is not "evidence" for god whatsoever.

*sigh*  Calling it "sappy, emotional conversion story" is contradicting yourself. Yes, it is trying to be disrespectful. * *