The Official God Thread - To Discuss God and Seek Answers

[jcribb16]

Yes it is true as much of you have stated, stand your ground and stand up for what you believe. how ever are you good Christians and will you hate me when I say I am more Pagan then a follower of Yahweh.  I have studied the Bible, very much, and learned from followers and translations of the other two; Judaism and Islam.  It really makes me laugh the claim that they are all different. how ever know this the Christian Bible contradicts it's self the most.  This and the fact that it is so hard to find some one who will walk the path that Jesus laid out.

I could never hate you just because you may have different views than I do.  You acknowledged that we should stand for what we feel, and you, in turn acknowledged what you feel or believe.  We totally differ on the Bible, apparently.  But hate?  Not me!!

[queenofnines]

There are those who call the bible fairy tales- have you read the bible?

Yes I have; it's a major part of why I became an atheist.  Question back to you: have you read the WHOLE Bible, or just the feel-good parts taught in church?  Because I have a hard time believing any Christian who claims to adore such a book if they have truly read its entirety.

I know the dirty little secret of Christianity: most of you HAVEN'T read even 1/4 of the Bible!  As for you denying it contains fairy tales, I've got ten quick examples for you: dirtman, ribwoman, talking snake, cursed fruit, a boat for millions of animals, a giant man-eating fish, a "virgin" conception and birth, a talking donkey, a zombie savior, sticks and water transforming into snakes and blood...etc. etc.

it doesn't make sense to those who will not accept that there is one who created the world and everything in it

No, it just doesn't make sense period.  I have no problem with the possibility of a god...but the Bible proves your god doesn't exist.

people would rather believe we come from monkeys- how crazy is that?

How else do you explain 98% similar DNA?  Is god just lazy?

you don't want to accept that there is actually a book that tells you to live a moral life

There are many other books on this subject that do a far better job...

stay married, don't have sex outside of marriage- things we ought to do for the betterment of society, and to save our lives- see people don't like those rules, but they will follow other stupid silly rules that do't make sense to any rational person

Staying married to someone you're unhappy with is good for society??!  And NO sex outside of marriage -- that doesn't make sense to a rational person.  Why is god so concerned with people's sex lives, anyway?  There are far bigger fish to fry.

then you must believe you are an ape, because that's what evolution teaches.

Is it now?    Hmm, and here I thought I was 100's of thousands of years removed from anything close to an ape; that I'm a homo sapien.  

People who believe in god should not be allowed to say anything at all related to a "knowledge" of evolution.  lol

the word is better than a horoscope, psychic, palm reader, tarot card rader, and all the rest

Actually, the Bible is pretty much on par with those in terms of validity.  lololol (joke you probably won't get) lollol

[jcribb16]

Superiority and sarcasm at its best.  The only view that should be accepted.  NOT...

[jcribb16]

Quote from queenofnines:
I know the dirty little secret of Christianity: most of you HAVEN'T read even 1/4 of the Bible!


For your information, qon, I have read the Bible.  I may not understand all those words and names, especially in the Old Testament, but have used Bible dictionaries and handbooks to find the meanings of words.  I also attended a Christian University where I had to take at least 13 courses in different aspects of the Bible, the history, other religions and cults, etc. Your "know it all" attitude is making you look foolish.

[Annella]

Quote from queenofnines:
I know the dirty little secret of Christianity: most of you HAVEN'T read even 1/4 of the Bible!


For your information, qon, I have read the Bible.  I may not understand all those words and names, especially in the Old Testament, but have used Bible dictionarys and handbooks to find the meanings of words.  I also attended a Christian University where I had to take at least 13 courses in different aspects of the Bible, the history, other religions and cults, etc. Your "know it all" attitude is making you look foolish.

She just throws stuff out there for shock effect, and to bait you.  She does look foolish.  Oh, the feel good parts are good, but the goodness also has a severity attached to it.  It's so easy to refute it, and call it fairy tales, then your not held responsible for what effect it has on your life...or afterlife.  Psst....here's the real shock....refute it all you want, you are still going to answer to it.  All of us are.  

You know what I think your dirty little secret is?  Deep inside you know it's true, and it scares you to death!!

[amyrouse]

First of all. to those who stand with me and defend the cross -thanks. There are those who call the bible fairy tales- have you read the bible?- have you even tried?- it doesn't make sense to those who will not accept that there is one who created the world and everything in it-people would rather believe we come from monkeys- how crazy is that? The bible is a history book, love book, family book, people book hope book book, peace book, friend book,future predictor, and even a book of judgement- but fairy tale- I don't think so- you don't want to accept that there is actually a book that tells you to live a moral life, love your neighbor, stay married, don't have sex outside of marriage- things we ought to do for the betterment of society, and to save our lives- see people don't like those rules, but they will follow other stupid silly rules that do't make sense to any rational person- the "so called" fairy tale is the best book to live by- it will change your life for the better if you let it. If you believe gut feeling comes from evolution, then you must believe you are an ape, because that's what evolution teaches. the bible outdated- you don't know of what you speak- you can find everything that has ever been relevant in mankind relevant for today- the word is better than a horoscope, psychic, palm reader, tarot card rader, and all the rest- they cant tell you if you will take your next breath. finally, God is willing to stop evil, but he has to have mans' permission- he will not go aganst your will if you want to do evil, so don't blame God for what man chooses to do to himself or unfourtunately to others- it is his choice- God is relly only obligated to those who love and serve him- no one else.

I support your right as a Christian...even though I'm not there with you.  I believe in g-d, I believe g-d loves me, and I love g-d with everything I am.  I do not, though, agree with you on so many of the things you have said here, and while you weren't intending with your post directed toward me, you hurt me with your words.  You believe g-d gives us warnings via intuition; I don't.  I had an instinct to run away, and I ignored it.  This did not make the ensuing events my fault, nor did it make them g-d's fault.  There is only one person I blame for them, and he knows who he is.  My point in the discussion, in even bringing up what happened to me, was to say that it doesn't seem rational to me that the g-d I love who loves me in return would only warn me without removing me from the situation if g-d was present at all in the events that happened.  Any loving parent would not sit idly by while their child is hurt in such a manner if they had the power to stop it.  The more you try to explain it away, as you did in the above post (g-d has to have man's permission), the more it sounds like it is the end result of the person ignoring the "warning" and this is the farthest from the truth.

I am g-d's child.  I have a relationship with g-d. G-d is my spiritual parent, and I love and respect g-d.  But, I am also one of g-d's people Israel, meaning I wrestle with g-d and disagree with g-d at times.  G-d isn't obligated to anyone...and I doubt g-d expects much more from us than to respect and love g-d and our fellow humankind.  The rest...is up to interpretation.

[jcribb16]

Quote from queenofnines:
I know the dirty little secret of Christianity: most of you HAVEN'T read even 1/4 of the Bible!


For your information, qon, I have read the Bible.  I may not understand all those words and names, especially in the Old Testament, but have used Bible dictionarys and handbooks to find the meanings of words.  I also attended a Christian University where I had to take at least 13 courses in different aspects of the Bible, the history, other religions and cults, etc. Your "know it all" attitude is making you look foolish.

She just throws stuff out there for shock effect, and to bait you.  She does look foolish.  Oh, the feel good parts are good, but the goodness also has a severity attached to it.  It's so easy to refute it, and call it fairy tales, then your not held responsible for what effect it has on your life...or afterlife.  Psst....here's the real shock....refute it all you want, you are still going to answer to it.  All of us are.  

You know what I think your dirty little secret is?  Deep inside you know it's true, and it scares you to death!!

Something else: Why does she seem to think it's a dirty secret and little secret!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?  Is there something she thinks she knows that everyone else does not know?

[queenofnines]

You know what I think your dirty little secret is?  Deep inside you know it's true, and it scares you to death!!

And you said I was the foolish one?

[Annella]

Yes it is true as much of you have stated, stand your ground and stand up for what you believe. how ever are you good Christians and will you hate me when I say I am more Pagan then a follower of Yahweh.  I have studied the Bible, very much, and learned from followers and translations of the other two; Judaism and Islam.  It really makes me laugh the claim that they are all different. how ever know this the Christian Bible contradicts it's self the most.  This and the fact that it is so hard to find some one who will walk the path that Jesus laid out.

Being pagan is your choice.  Our choice is to believe the Bible and be Christ's followers.  The Bible, Judaism and Islam have a few similar teachings, but Islam then branches off to their own teachings.  As in everyone that is no Muslim is an infidel, and should be put to death.  The Jews only have the Old Testament as they don't believe Jesus is the Messiah, and reject the New Testament.  Have you actually studied the Bible in the Hebrew and Greek translations and definitions?

The Bible does not contradict its self.  In fact, scripture interprets scripture.  I'd like to address where you see contradictions in the Bible.  I'd be happy to go through them with you one by one.

What path are you referring to that Jesus laid out for us to walk?  So what your saying is that there are no true Christians?  I beg to differ.

[Annella]

Quote from queenofnines:
I know the dirty little secret of Christianity: most of you HAVEN'T read even 1/4 of the Bible!


For your information, qon, I have read the Bible.  I may not understand all those words and names, especially in the Old Testament, but have used Bible dictionarys and handbooks to find the meanings of words.  I also attended a Christian University where I had to take at least 13 courses in different aspects of the Bible, the history, other religions and cults, etc. Your "know it all" attitude is making you look foolish.

She just throws stuff out there for shock effect, and to bait you.  She does look foolish.  Oh, the feel good parts are good, but the goodness also has a severity attached to it.  It's so easy to refute it, and call it fairy tales, then your not held responsible for what effect it has on your life...or afterlife.  Psst....here's the real shock....refute it all you want, you are still going to answer to it.  All of us are.  

You know what I think your dirty little secret is?  Deep inside you know it's true, and it scares you to death!!

Something else: Why does she seem to think it's a dirty secret and little secret!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?  Is there something she thinks she knows that everyone else does not know?

She wants people to think she's the authority.....pffffft  Yeah right!  I just made a play on her own words.  there's nothing dirty or secret about us, as God is who we follow.

[Annella]

You know what I think your dirty little secret is?  Deep inside you know it's true, and it scares you to death!!

And you said I was the foolish one?

Well, time will tell now won't it.......and time's running out in this life.

[jcribb16]

You know what I think your dirty little secret is?  Deep inside you know it's true, and it scares you to death!!

And you said I was the foolish one?

Well, time will tell now won't it.......and time's running out in this life.

Time will definitely tell, that's for sure...

[shernajwine]

I hope time will tell that queen turned her heart towards God and I see her in eternity. That's my prayer 

[candynelms]

i believe in God. to each his own. you may not believe but you are the one who has to answer in the end. it may not be to God himself, but it will be to someone. i don't condemn any one for their beliefs. everyone is intitled to their opinion. just cause someone says it doesn't make them stupid or ignorant. it just means that they were raised differnt from you. and if you truely believe in God you would know not to judge others. i ain't trying to make anyone mad. i am just saying what i was taught.

[Annella]

I hope time will tell that queen turned her heart towards God and I see her in eternity. That's my prayer  

We all hope all will be saved, as God said, He's not willing that ANY should perish.  Unfortunately it will not be so.  However, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he reap.  That goes for us as Christians also, if it doesn't get put under the blood.

The Bible even tells us, not everyone that says Lord, Lord, will be saved.  Calling yourself a Christian doesn't make it so.  Our lives have to be single unto God and His Word.