The Official God Thread - To Discuss God and Seek Answers

[tammyrwa]

To AmyRouse, and Jordandog- first Amy- my heart goes out to you for what happened to you- I can't even imagine what that was like, and I don't want to, but can I ask you if you had any worry or inclinations that you were not supposed to be where you were, or go where you did that day?- please do not misunderstand me- what happened to you was not at all your fault, regardless of the circumstances, but I have learned through trial and error, that if you have any misgivings about doing something, going somewhere, you should listen to your gut. that is the Spirit God has put inside of us- we don't just get a bad feeling, etc.. All of us have gone places we should not have gone, and done things we should not have, and we wound up sorry. Even if you are in your own home or whatever, if your gut says lock the door, don't answer the door, don't go outside, do go with him/her- this person you like is bad news, don't hang with that crowd, etc, it is the spirit of God warning us, and nothing else- not premonition, sixth sense, or just something else- it is God.

[armychick09h]

I don't like anyone using the word "retard", period. Retarded people often have more intelligence than so-called "smart" or so-called "normal" people. To use the word "retard" as a put down just isn't right. Come to think of it, put downs are unnecessary at any age.

Applauds to you. totally back you up 100% on that

[queenofnines]

it is the spirit of God warning us, and nothing else- not premonition, sixth sense, or just something else- it is God.

Sorry to rain on the parade, but "gut feelings" are entirely due to evolution.

http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/1-50/article26_body.html

[SurveyMack10]

it is the spirit of God warning us, and nothing else- not premonition, sixth sense, or just something else- it is God.

Sorry to rain on the parade, but "gut feelings" are entirely due to evolution.

http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/1-50/article26_body.html

Oh can you prove evolution now too? Somehow I feel I didn't come from a monkey.

not going to get into a debate about it- just letting you know that if someone doesnt believe in evolution, theyre not going to believe thats where their gut feeling comes from

[jcribb16]

it is the spirit of God warning us, and nothing else- not premonition, sixth sense, or just something else- it is God.

Sorry to rain on the parade, but "gut feelings" are entirely due to evolution.

http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/1-50/article26_body.html

Tammy - stand your ground.  There she goes telling you she knows everything there is to know about this and we can't decide for ourselves.

[shernajwine]

it is the spirit of God warning us, and nothing else- not premonition, sixth sense, or just something else- it is God.

Sorry to rain on the parade, but "gut feelings" are entirely due to evolution.

http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/1-50/article26_body.html

Tammy - stand your ground.  There she goes telling you she knows everything there is to know about this and we can't decide for ourselves.

And when you do decide for yourself because evolution is completely devoid of any legitimate and relevant answers to origins, people who believe in evolution will dismiss it, as if the most critical of questions isn't important enough to bother with. 

[Annella]

it is the spirit of God warning us, and nothing else- not premonition, sixth sense, or just something else- it is God.

Sorry to rain on the parade, but "gut feelings" are entirely due to evolution.

http://www.winstonbrill.com/bril001/html/article_index/articles/1-50/article26_body.html

Gut feelings are not ENTIRELY due to evolution.  Your not raining on the parade, because every Christian on here has experienced that still small voice.  You have no idea what your talking about.  All your evolution, atheistic, mumbo jumbo can't explain a "real" relationship with the Creator who made ALL things, and how He speaks to His own through His Spirit.  There again, we have free choice to listen or not.   

[amyrouse]

To AmyRouse, and Jordandog- first Amy- my heart goes out to you for what happened to you- I can't even imagine what that was like, and I don't want to, but can I ask you if you had any worry or inclinations that you were not supposed to be where you were, or go where you did that day?- please do not misunderstand me- what happened to you was not at all your fault, regardless of the circumstances, but I have learned through trial and error, that if you have any misgivings about doing something, going somewhere, you should listen to your gut. that is the Spirit God has put inside of us- we don't just get a bad feeling, etc.. All of us have gone places we should not have gone, and done things we should not have, and we wound up sorry. Even if you are in your own home or whatever, if your gut says lock the door, don't answer the door, don't go outside, do go with him/her- this person you like is bad news, don't hang with that crowd, etc, it is the spirit of God warning us, and nothing else- not premonition, sixth sense, or just something else- it is God.

I believe in g-d with everything I am...and I have to respectfully disagree with you.  This was not g-d telling me to turn away.  This was purely instinct, a survival response.  I have a hard time believing that a g-d that I love and who loves me in return would give me a warning like that and do nothing else to prevent the horrible thing that happened from happening!  This isn't a parent standing by and watching their child fall and skin their knee...this is the worst crime anyone could possibly commit against another human being. Its been over four years now, and I am still recovering from the impact.

My mother carried me for nine months and gave birth to me.  Her genes in combination with my father's genes along with the morals they taught me growing up are what made me who I am today.  My parents gave me the foundation to live my life, but they are not active participants in my life who can sway what happens to me.  I believe the same for g-d.  If g-d had the power to give me a warning at that exact moment because g-d knew what was about to happen, that is one of the weakest things I can think of g-d doing to try to protect me.  I would have rather had g-d ignore me at that moment in time, because if g-d really is an active participant in this world...I'm disappointed.  I don't have all the answers, and I am not all-knowing, but for a loving g-d who has the capability to be an active participant and heal through prayer and etc...for that g-d to continue to allow things like this to happen with just a weak pit of the stomach warning...it astounds me.  I can't be the only one who believes this is weak.

So, while I appreciate your sympathy, I respectfully disagree with the rest of what you have said.  It may sound perfectly rational to you, but it still sounds like a bunch of victim blaming to me.  How else is "its not your fault, but..." supposed to sound?

[teflonfanatic]

I believe the creator of that thread and Falconor went way too far with the R word. I mean I have a mild form of autism which means i'm retarded medically speaking!!!!!!!

[armychick09h]

Do I have to keep posting that...I AM IN NO WAY CALLING ANYONE A RETARD>>>I JUST GOT SICK OF THE HATE DIRECTED TOWARDS ME AND MY BELIEFS

People are always going to be rude to people with different beliefs then them. Just gotta shrug it off.

[tammyrwa]

First of all. to those who stand with me and defend the cross -thanks. There are those who call the bible fairy tales- have you read the bible?- have you even tried?- it doesn't make sense to those who will not accept that there is one who created the world and everything in it-people would rather believe we come from monkeys- how crazy is that? The bible is a history book, love book, family book, people book hope book book, peace book, friend book,future predictor, and even a book of judgement- but fairy tale- I don't think so- you don't want to accept that there is actually a book that tells you to live a moral life, love your neighbor, stay married, don't have sex outside of marriage- things we ought to do for the betterment of society, and to save our lives- see people don't like those rules, but they will follow other stupid silly rules that do't make sense to any rational person- the "so called" fairy tale is the best book to live by- it will change your life for the better if you let it. If you believe gut feeling comes from evolution, then you must believe you are an ape, because that's what evolution teaches. the bible outdated- you don't know of what you speak- you can find everything that has ever been relevant in mankind relevant for today- the word is better than a horoscope, psychic, palm reader, tarot card rader, and all the rest- they cant tell you if you will take your next breath. finally, God is willing to stop evil, but he has to have mans' permission- he will not go aganst your will if you want to do evil, so don't blame God for what man chooses to do to himself or unfourtunately to others- it is his choice- God is relly only obligated to those who love and serve him- no one else.

[Annella]

First of all. to those who stand with me and defend the cross -thanks. There are those who call the bible fairy tales- have you read the bible?- have you even tried?- it doesn't make sense to those who will not accept that there is one who created the world and everything in it-people would rather believe we come from monkeys- how crazy is that? The bible is a history book, love book, family book, people book hope book book, peace book, friend book,future predictor, and even a book of judgement- but fairy tale- I don't think so- you don't want to accept that there is actually a book that tells you to live a moral life, love your neighbor, stay married, don't have sex outside of marriage- things we ought to do for the betterment of society, and to save our lives- see people don't like those rules, but they will follow other stupid silly rules that do't make sense to any rational person- the "so called" fairy tale is the best book to live by- it will change your life for the better if you let it. If you believe gut feeling comes from evolution, then you must believe you are an ape, because that's what evolution teaches. the bible outdated- you don't know of what you speak- you can find everything that has ever been relevant in mankind relevant for today- the word is better than a horoscope, psychic, palm reader, tarot card rader, and all the rest- they cant tell you if you will take your next breath. finally, God is willing to stop evil, but he has to have mans' permission- he will not go aganst your will if you want to do evil, so don't blame God for what man chooses to do to himself or unfourtunately to others- it is his choice- God is relly only obligated to those who love and serve him- no one else.

Tammyrwa, I support your right as a Christian as I'm one also.  Everything you said in your post has been said over and over before on different threads.  Sometimes you have to walk away because they will not hear.   Like you said, it's a choice.  I haven't done this enough myself.  I don't want God mocked, or his children dragged in the verbal mud anymore.  There really is a time where you stop, and turn it over to God, as He has it well in hand and will take it from there.  I'm doing this myself.  These conversations go in circles.  After the first circle, it's time to move on.  We believe the Bible and it's teachings, they don't.  We can't make them.  We present the "good news", and hope it's accepted.  Then it's out of our hands.  It's time to sow our seed somewhere else.  There's nothing wrong with having a debate, but negative disputations to the point of offense is not pleasing to God (not aimed at you at all).

Remember, the preaching of the Cross to those who perish, is foolishness.  What we have is so precious, and to be protected, as well as spread to the lost.  The Lord Bless you.

[jcribb16]

   Stay strong, Tammy!!! You are doing great. I am another Christian, too.  I've also  , too, so I know how you feel!   

[Lusie]

I believe the creator of that thread and Falconor went way too far with the R word. I mean I have a mild form of autism which means i'm retarded medically speaking!!!!!!!

In all honesty the R word offends me also. There is no such thing as being one. People only say this about those they know nothing about of that they fear.

The original meaning of Retard:

To retard something is to slow it down.  to keep back, hinder, or impede It was originally meant as a verb and was turned into a noun years later.

This is a very sad occurence. If any one has ever tried to actually get to know these people that they use the words on they would come to realize that they are very compassionate caring and yes intelligent people in their own ways. You could learn a lot from them. They can love and hate just as the rest of us. In essence they are no different than we are. If the word was to be used as a noun it should be used for every one. In some form or fashion each and every person has their problems such as what people look away from. Just some of these problems are easier to hide from the word than others are.

[philozex]

Yes it is true as much of you have stated, stand your ground and stand up for what you believe. how ever are you good Christians and will you hate me when I say I am more Pagan then a follower of Yahweh.  I have studied the Bible, very much, and learned from followers and translations of the other two; Judaism and Islam.  It really makes me laugh the claim that they are all different. how ever know this the Christian Bible contradicts it's self the most.  This and the fact that it is so hard to find some one who will walk the path that Jesus laid out.