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froggyjoe

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2008, 11:26:43 am »
 :wave: hi ya.. so any  whododedo hows the weather?

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2008, 11:32:15 am »
its colder here then id like, thats for sure
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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2008, 11:39:55 am »
omg yes..I agree. and so glad spring is just around the corner. like u getting fed up with it lol

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2008, 11:54:20 am »
its cold and snowy here hope it warms up soon so i van complain the heat :icon_rr:

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2008, 12:17:20 pm »
ok I have to say this. can no longer hold it back.. I tried.. may it be I have missed the point and yes maybe I am being a mother hen cuase im new. But I have not yet seen anysite that is 100percent perfect in anyway. I guess I get erked.( me thing working on it) yes they are those that will  still try to link  or do things fusion has asked over and over again not to.  And to me if fusion does not take an action you think is right or should. I feel you are complaining about it. cuase fusion is taking thier action of the situation thier way not your way. I can go to other sites find all the flaws possible and bring them up. But why. what will it solve? has my lil buddies god love him.. he has did his petition. well that force bringing back the manuel credit  to me NO. And im sure they have a really good reason not to.  But sure we all will find something we dont like or like.. I d like to read more of what they do like about fusion  instead of complaining all the time they didnt get credit.. ok that happens but bottom line  did you at least enjoy the product you wanted to get in the first place?
either way its a win win.. to me I have done offers I wouldnt of heard of before like mehi mills.. im really liking that one.. have ordered another time from them and wil in the future.. shoebuy another one I was unaware of and plan on buying from them again.. its a really honest site. with fast delivery and has all your name brands of what your wanting. where are those conversations at? all im hearing is did you get credit, I ddint get credit so forth?
 

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2008, 03:35:56 pm »
As a note: Other sites have FusionCash ads because we PAY them to, we don't get paid for you guys talking about their site.

Also, the "rules" are really Terms of Service, meaning if you post here -- you agree to the rules set forth in those Terms of Service. Don't like the rules? Don't post. It is simple.
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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2008, 08:39:54 pm »
As I have said before I would like to see this so called law that is being thrown around.  Oh and by the way Law runs in my family wich is made of of Lawers.  So I have learned over the years how to read the law and inturpet it.   Please post this so called law you are so eliquently thorwing around.  I dare you to show us all the exact law.

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2008, 08:58:36 pm »
i'll ban you all from the internet!

for i am


<------ oh, yeah.

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2008, 09:10:12 pm »
i'll ban you all from the internet!

for i am


<------ oh, yeah.


LOL my friend you are too much. 

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2008, 06:08:51 am »
Only here would someone (or everyone) get upset about the FACTS I've put out there.  Froggyjoe, you're still missing what I'm saying.  You call it contridiction.  How is it a contridiction saying that I like this site and don't want to see it get in any kind of trouble and forced to shut down?  How am I being a hypocrite by being on this site and trying to earn extra money just like everybody else?  Where have I said that I'm going to sue for anything?  How am I BRAGGING, I believe is the word that was used, by having my own forums?  When in fact anybody and everybody can have their own forum.  It's free and all you need is just a little knowledge about the internet.

To the person who is wanting to know about the federal laws pertaining to public forums.  Go to any other forum site and read them.  By law you're required to have those federal laws posted.  This site is the only place that doesn't.

I couldn't care any less than I do about this situation.  All I can tell you is, is that I know the federal laws and this site is in violation of them.  Why does it matter to me?  It doesn't, but when you moderators, other members, and the "groupies" whatever, attacking another member like a pack of wolves when they asked, "how can I cancel something I didn't mean to sign up for?"  And being told that was a violation and that was a warning, then yeah, I'm going to say something about it.  Regardless to what b.s. requests you want to pass off as rules.  It was and is that member's right as a customer to know how to cancel an offer THEY DIDN'T MEAN TO SIGN UP FOR WITHOUT ANY KIND OF WARNING.

To whoever it was that said pretty much everybody in their family is a lawyer, but them ???  Being a lawyer doesn't make a difference in any case, because there's nothing to interpret.  The laws stated are clear as a bell.  They're laws that have been around since the constitution just modified a small amount to fit the internet standards today.

I don't play "follow the leader" and suck up to anybody and everybody they believe holds clout in this site, because trust me; this forum isn't moderated by anyone in the fusioncash front office.  The moderators are simply members themselves and the only reason they're worshipped is because you most of you believe you can make more money by it sucking up to them.

At first I didn't want to step on anybody's toes.  Now, I hope I'm dancing all over them.  Guess what?  Knowing that it bothers so many of you, I'm going to continue to post on this forum and dance on more toes.  Why?  Because there's nothing anyone can do about it, because I'm not breaking any "rules" under your law.  I am constituting my right of free speech and expression.

Golden rule:  Treat people the way you want to be treated?  Maybe you should practice what you preach and maybe next time you'll figure out when someone's trying to be nice and help before something bad happens.  Which is what I was trying to do, but once again the common people in this world get bent out of shape and appreciate being treated right and being helped out. 

I'm done with this topic, but I promise I'll see you elsewhere on the board  :bootyshake:

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2008, 07:27:05 am »
Only here would someone (or everyone) get upset about the FACTS I've put out there.  Froggyjoe, you're still missing what I'm saying.  You call it contridiction.  How is it a contridiction saying that I like this site and don't want to see it get in any kind of trouble and forced to shut down?  How am I being a hypocrite by being on this site and trying to earn extra money just like everybody else?  Where have I said that I'm going to sue for anything?  How am I BRAGGING, I believe is the word that was used, by having my own forums?  When in fact anybody and everybody can have their own forum.  It's free and all you need is just a little knowledge about the internet.

To the person who is wanting to know about the federal laws pertaining to public forums.  Go to any other forum site and read them.  By law you're required to have those federal laws posted.  This site is the only place that doesn't.

I couldn't care any less than I do about this situation.  All I can tell you is, is that I know the federal laws and this site is in violation of them.  Why does it matter to me?  It doesn't, but when you moderators, other members, and the "groupies" whatever, attacking another member like a pack of wolves when they asked, "how can I cancel something I didn't mean to sign up for?"  And being told that was a violation and that was a warning, then yeah, I'm going to say something about it.  Regardless to what b.s. requests you want to pass off as rules.  It was and is that member's right as a customer to know how to cancel an offer THEY DIDN'T MEAN TO SIGN UP FOR WITHOUT ANY KIND OF WARNING.

To whoever it was that said pretty much everybody in their family is a lawyer, but them ???  Being a lawyer doesn't make a difference in any case, because there's nothing to interpret.  The laws stated are clear as a bell.  They're laws that have been around since the constitution just modified a small amount to fit the internet standards today.

I don't play "follow the leader" and suck up to anybody and everybody they believe holds clout in this site, because trust me; this forum isn't moderated by anyone in the fusioncash front office.  The moderators are simply members themselves and the only reason they're worshipped is because you most of you believe you can make more money by it sucking up to them.

At first I didn't want to step on anybody's toes.  Now, I hope I'm dancing all over them.  Guess what?  Knowing that it bothers so many of you, I'm going to continue to post on this forum and dance on more toes.  Why?  Because there's nothing anyone can do about it, because I'm not breaking any "rules" under your law.  I am constituting my right of free speech and expression.

Golden rule:  Treat people the way you want to be treated?  Maybe you should practice what you preach and maybe next time you'll figure out when someone's trying to be nice and help before something bad happens.  Which is what I was trying to do, but once again the common people in this world get bent out of shape and appreciate being treated right and being helped out. 

I'm done with this topic, but I promise I'll see you elsewhere on the board  :bootyshake:


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To whoever it was that said pretty much everybody in their family is a lawyer, but them ???  Being a lawyer doesn't make a difference in any case, because there's nothing to interpret.  The laws stated are clear as a bell.  They're laws that have been around since the constitution just modified a small amount to fit the internet standards today.
 

That was me who said that  and you still haven't posted this so called law for all of us to see. 
All you have posted solar is your interpretation of the law.  POST IT I Dare You.................. 

As for you saying you don't care who the heck are you kidding.  If you were really concerned you could have taken this subject and mailed it to Support.  I think the only reason you posted any thing like this is because you just wanted some attention.  You are jealous because your sites failed and FC is a success.

So as I said I DARE YOU TO POST THIS LAW in here and post the Reference as to were you fond it.  If you can’t do that then you are nothing more the a FAKE and an ATTENTION SEEKER.   :binkybaby:

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2008, 08:13:55 am »
I agree with alot of what thejoe2k8 posted, regarding why some of these members get so bent out of shape when someone else speaks up concerning FC or its policies...we have discussed this before about how SOME members just have to rush to FC defense no matter the topic...and like him im assuming all that azz kissing has something to do with them thinkin perhaps their offers will credit more (if thats the case sign me up for groupie status also), or they will become moderaters, get some bonus..etc... it used to annoy me..now i just see it as being pathetic, FC states clearly that it has no problem with members or its members opinions of FC so long as they follow the sites TOS..

odd how its not FC thats gettin bent out of shape...i dont give a hoot about how folks choose to run their site, just pay me what im owed and in a timely manner..

1. Observe the golden rule -- Treat others as you would like to be treated So please respect everyone, even if you do not agree with them, or get along with them We are not going to mute people's opinion of us or other subjects. (which to me says, 2 u groupies...dont even waste your damn time sucking up, wont do u any good, and FC dont care)..
Nuff said..

p.s thejoe2k8 keep tap dancing on those toes , its refreshing to see someone holding their own...most of us are not groupies..I personally welcome good dialogue, and differences of opinions.
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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2008, 08:33:41 am »
There was nothing on my sites to fail.  They're forums; so what is there to fail.  Not an offer site like this one.  One of them is still quite active.  I told you where to go to get the laws.  You can go to any public forum website or online chatroom and view these laws.  Or you can go to any government office and request the laws pertaining to internet chat sites and public forums.  It's no secret thing.  Go look for yourself, I DARE YOU.  I would post the laws from my site, but it leads to my site with is loaded with referral links from not only me, but other users.  If I wanted to post a thread for attention as you call it.  I would've picked a more interesting subject, because frankly this subject is boring, but it seems that you and the others are drawn to the drama that everybody's caused by this subject.  Plus I get plenty of attention from family and friends that I couldn't care less if I got attention from you or not.  Don't be so shallow.

If you or anyone else wants to express your ignorance or stupidity when someone is trying to make a simple fact to, let me say this one more friggin' time, KEEP THIS SITE OUT OF TROUBLE, BECAUSE I LIKE, YES LIKE.  Read the last part typed in caps over and over until it makes sense.  I didn't go to support, because, once again, didn't want anybody to get in any trouble.  Does anybody here read and understand plain english or is it primarily moronish that is spoken around here.  Most normal and friendly people would say, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION.  No, not here.  I'm treated like garbage for trying to be helpful.  So, I'm following the golden rule by treating people the way I've been treated so far.

I think it's funny that in the rules thread it states something about the right to free speech, but they fail to list that you only have the right to free speech here if you're in the inner circle.  Sure, everybody's posted their right of speech, but have done so in a smart @$$ way.  Which is against this sites so-called golden rule.  Because I, in no way, threatened, implied threat, or any kind of harmful action to receive the hostile replies that I have gotten on this subject.

Speaking of FusionCash terms of service and contridictions...  You cannot say anything disrespectful about advertisers on this site, but you can say that the advertisers offer is "A SCAM" because it is done so out of anger.  How is telling someone their ad is a scam not being disrespectful?  But yet, I've seen posts locked/deleted with posters being told that they can't say that about an advertiser, because it may offend them.

The truth of the matter is if Kohler or whatever the name is or anybody else who belongs to the circle jerk would have posted this, everyone would be saying, AMEN or whatever.  But because it came from an "outsider" what happens?  I get pounced on.

Also, I forgot this one little detail.  Kohler had mentioned the reason why fusion cash has offers on these other paid offer sites is because they pay for it.  Then why hasn't half the people I know that's signed up for fusioncash from these sites been credited for it?  The fact of the matter is that these other sites want their members to make as much money as they can so they give you options to go to the "competition" and make more money.  All the while FusionCash tries to run a monopoly.  

Thank you for the support Lendal.  If groupie status pays more then I might be willing to change my tune lol.

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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2008, 08:50:43 am »
No one is pouncing on you, and I am sorry you feel that way. But if you come in speaking that FusionCash is breaking federal laws and will get shut down, of course people are going to get riled up and that is something you probably should have known while typing your post. I do not jump on anyone for anything, other than for breaking the rules.

What I dot understand is you are calling this a "circle jerk" including another small quip to *bleep* people off, and then you say everyone is jumping on you. I am an administrator here, and I am trying to let you know where you are incorrect in your assessment. No one has called you names as far as I can see, everyone is stating their opinion which happens to be different than yours and you take offense to it. No advertiser can be called a SCAM on the site without any sort of recourse, so I do not know where you pulled that from. People are not credited from FusionCash for several reasons, much like the same reasons people are not credited for any offer. False information, being outside of the US, not confirming email address are just a few of the reasons a credit does not go through.

Again, we have not muted, edited, or locked this topic and your opinion is welcome here, as is everyone's. But just know next time that you say something, people may have a completely different opinion than you, and that it is not an attack, it is just their opinion.
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Re: Freedom of Speech
« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2008, 08:51:34 am »
thejoe!!! Ive been here around 3 or 4 months, one thing i found out...dont try question, dispute, or even post a comment or question that may be even remotely considered negitive to FC..you ll get jumped.  
If you dont live in here, you aint dung.  I seen what you were saying, and as usual, A huge mountain was made out a mole hill.
Just kiss butt and call it ice cream and you ll be ok, if not..you know where the door is, thats the usual response.  
If its not against the TOS..it ll be against the cliques rules.  
Good luck fella.

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