Aliens

[teflonfanatic]

So there's 2 ice ages

There have been a lot of ice ages through earth's history. I don't know how many off hand, but I assure you there has been more than 2 major ones and a ton of minor/mild ones.

I skimmed your links, a lot of jargon and seemingly random dates. In all fairness I need to know how they come up with these dates I.E. radiocarbon dating etc.

I'd like to know this info too. Scientists don't seem to agree on dates & I would love to know how they all come up with the dates & why they think they are more accurate than the next guy. Don't get me wrong. I am very interested in science & the Bible. I don't think the two have to be at odds with each other.

Science and the bible go together, theories and the bible don't. Some argue that the bible saying the earth is a circle still doesn't prove if the earth is flat or not however 

[Falconer02]

I skimmed your links, a lot of jargon and seemingly random dates.

They're not. You need to understand science is never precisely exact (this rock is approx 13,235 years, 24 days, 3 hours, and 4 seconds old!)-- but it is infinitely perfectible. You're never going to get an exact/precise date with dating really old things. But you can get a very close estimate (i.e. +/-13,000 years old).

In all fairness I need to know how they come up with these dates I.E. radiocarbon dating etc.

Ice cores are one method for things such as this. You can't really put up a good argument against ice cores when it comes to dating things. It's very exact-- practically like measuring how old a tree is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core

I'd like to know this info too. Scientists don't seem to agree on dates & I would love to know how they all come up with the dates & why they think they are more accurate than the next guy.

I'd go further in, but it would be too long to type what I know. That, and I don't have my Masters in the field  
But here's a list of a few methods- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Dating_methods

I am very interested in science & the Bible. I don't think the two have to be at odds with each other.

Science and the bible go together, theories and the bible don't. Some argue that the bible saying the earth is a circle still doesn't prove if the earth is flat or not however

Oh wow...you really think that? It's furthest from the truth of things. And you think science and its theories are completely separate aspects?...c'mon. I'd elaborate, but I have to get back to work here. I'll end with saying you should only go to your bible only for your jesus character and your deity. Not for science. Never for science. Don't ever use it for science unless you know what you're talking about!
As far as the bible and the circle-earth thing, they didn't say sphere nor did the ancients think it was oblate-spherical as it actually is. They thought it looked like this-
http://www.mirrornerror.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/otcosmos.jpg

This is a perfect example of people taking biblical scripture and morphing it into whatever they want to align with how it actually is. It's a cheap trick and all-too-common with creationists.
"To insist on a set of beliefs that would be more comforting just because you dread the result of facing the truth is fatal to the conscience. “Faith” from that point on rests on the rotten foundation of self-deception"
http://www.infidelguy.com/article1.html (AWESOME article)

[Bluedee]

Okay... At the very beginning of the bible, when God was creating Adam, he says "Let US make him in Our own image, in Our own likeness" These are plural words that are saying that he is talking with someone else. This would have to mean that there is someone or something else there....right?  I have watched a lot of the Discovery channel and other programs that have validated the fact that their are and have been other beings among us. As a matter of fact, they were here before we were. Are we really so vain as to think that when God the great creator created us that we were just so perfect that he never created anything else? Do we think that our planet was the first planet that he ever made? Just because we cannot survive on a lot of the other planets doesn't mean that they can't. Also. don't you think that if everyone on this planet had an encounter with other beings that it would cause total pandemonium? And yes I have been contacted, and yes they do talk a different language. I have even spoken this language in my sleep. Sometimes it wakes me up and sometimes the only way I know about it is when my husband tells me that I was talking again. I have even done some automatic writing. I am right handed and he writes with my left hand. Now I already know as I am typing this out that you are going to believe that I am totally bonkers and that is okay. If I had not have experienced this for myself I would probably be agreeing you.

[Falconer02]

Hey, Bluedee! Welcome to the forums!

Now I already know as I am typing this out that you are going to believe that I am totally bonkers and that is okay. If I had not have experienced this for myself I would probably be agreeing you.

Ehh...imo you are pushing it (everyone talks in their sleep!), but you're showing some humility so that really takes guts. You also make some good points about how our worlds physical laws may not be the same as anothers. As long as you aren't telling us what these beings want and why we should obey the aliens (and drawing a crowd), I see no real harm.

[tantricia44]

I must be one. I have never been able to fit in anywhere. Therefore, I am in this world, but I am not of this world.

I too feel that I'm not from this world. I've never fit in anywhere in this life. I don't even feel comfortitable with my family. I've always felt  like I'm out side looking in at everyone else around me. The only person that was probably from my world was my Husband RIP. It's been several years now, but I'm still waiting for my Latent Super Powers to kick in! Hurry up Super powers, I'm not getting any younger! Obviously, staying young forever is not 1 of those elusive latent powers.  Ya, I think my cousin, Superman lost my address. LOL....

 Anyway, yes, I believe that there are other forms of life in the universe besides humans.

[Bluedee]

Thank you falconner02... I'm really enjoying Fusioncash and the forum and looking forward to getting to know everyone. I'm still trying to figure everything out, but just give me time and I'll get the hang of it. Good thing is...I'm having fun while doing it. As to the discussion on aliens, I feel that you just have to allow people to believe whatever they believe. I have learned that sometimes you can do more harm than good when you try to take that away. I think a lot of people have made some very interesting post on this subject and looking forward to reading more.

[cyncity831]

I agree with you 100 percent.  I totally believe we are not alone in this world.  I've never personally experienced anything myself, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe in an extra life in our universe.

[johnpriestly1]

personally, i think the universe is much too large for us to be the only inelliget life. what a waste of space. literally. 

I agree completely!

If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. – George Carlin RIP   

^_^

Aliens...  are not real...other universes are

[marieelissa]

Okay... At the very beginning of the bible, when God was creating Adam, he says "Let US make him in Our own image, in Our own likeness" These are plural words that are saying that he is talking with someone else. This would have to mean that there is someone or something else there....right?  I have watched a lot of the Discovery channel and other programs that have validated the fact that their are and have been other beings among us. As a matter of fact, they were here before we were. Are we really so vain as to think that when God the great creator created us that we were just so perfect that he never created anything else? Do we think that our planet was the first planet that he ever made? Just because we cannot survive on a lot of the other planets doesn't mean that they can't. Also. don't you think that if everyone on this planet had an encounter with other beings that it would cause total pandemonium? And yes I have been contacted, and yes they do talk a different language. I have even spoken this language in my sleep. Sometimes it wakes me up and sometimes the only way I know about it is when my husband tells me that I was talking again. I have even done some automatic writing. I am right handed and he writes with my left hand. Now I already know as I am typing this out that you are going to believe that I am totally bonkers and that is okay. If I had not have experienced this for myself I would probably be agreeing you.

I was watching something on The history channel about Grim Reapers actually being aliens and they caused the black plague. Pretty interesting.

[sflynt]

personally, i think the universe is much too large for us to be the only inelliget life. what a waste of space. literally. 

I agree completely!

If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. – George Carlin RIP   

^_^

Aliens...  are not real...other universes are

 

Who are we to call another species of life living in another universe aliens?! scoff! We should be ashamed. lol

[marieelissa]

I heard this book is really scary and freaked some people I know out when the stuff started happening.

[SCarter984]

Okay... At the very beginning of the bible, when God was creating Adam, he says "Let US make him in Our own image, in Our own likeness" These are plural words that are saying that he is talking with someone else. This would have to mean that there is someone or something else there....right?  I have watched a lot of the Discovery channel and other programs that have validated the fact that their are and have been other beings among us. As a matter of fact, they were here before we were. Are we really so vain as to think that when God the great creator created us that we were just so perfect that he never created anything else? Do we think that our planet was the first planet that he ever made? Just because we cannot survive on a lot of the other planets doesn't mean that they can't. Also. don't you think that if everyone on this planet had an encounter with other beings that it would cause total pandemonium? And yes I have been contacted, and yes they do talk a different language. I have even spoken this language in my sleep. Sometimes it wakes me up and sometimes the only way I know about it is when my husband tells me that I was talking again. I have even done some automatic writing. I am right handed and he writes with my left hand. Now I already know as I am typing this out that you are going to believe that I am totally bonkers and that is okay. If I had not have experienced this for myself I would probably be agreeing you.

I agree with you Bluedee.  There are definitely "others" among us.  I understand what you mean about the automatic writing and talking.  I know of someone who does that.  I have even been fortunate to have caught their craft in a picture I took of the Chem Trails back in October of this year.  The people who don't believe there are other beings among us are in for a rude awakening.  Those are the ones who will be running amok in the streets.

[Bluedee]

Hello SCarter984.  Nice to meet you... I would love meet your friend who does these things. Sometimes you wonder if you are the only one doing this and sometimes you feel as though it might be just all in your head or you will ask yourself if you are going a little crazy. The only thing that helped me when all of this began is that I also have a friend that talks. As for those who choose not to believe, I feel that you just have to allow each person to believe whatever they can deal with. I do feel that as time passes more and more evidence will come out and more and more people will be more open to what is really going on. But until then...to each his own.

[marieelissa]

Didn't Jesus say he had others to gather? As in Aliens?

[sflynt]

Didn't Jesus say he had others to gather? As in Aliens?

Thats what I wanna know.




How do you know Jesus even said that?