Aliens

[shernajwine]

Well, people can choose to use the bible for whatever they want, and obviously they do. I don't ever recall anyone trying to use the bible disprove aliens or dinosaurs. Anyone attempting to change the meaning of scripture, or add to it will suffer the consequences of those actions.

Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:



Ohhhh looks like John Smith, Muhammad and some others are in some trouble.

[502mania]

Well, people can choose to use the bible for whatever they want, and obviously they do. I don't ever recall anyone trying to use the bible disprove aliens or dinosaurs. Anyone attempting to change the meaning of scripture, or add to it will suffer the consequences of those actions.
Ohhhh looks like John Smith, Muhammad and some others are in some trouble.

definately. problem is - people add to and change the bible all the time.they've changed "And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land."-- Ezekiel 34:29 to land of renown

[shernajwine]

Well, people can choose to use the bible for whatever they want, and obviously they do. I don't ever recall anyone trying to use the bible disprove aliens or dinosaurs. Anyone attempting to change the meaning of scripture, or add to it will suffer the consequences of those actions.
Ohhhh looks like John Smith, Muhammad and some others are in some trouble.

definately. problem is - people add to and change the bible all the time.they've changed "And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land."-- Ezekiel 34:29 to land of renown

Well firstly the King James version (that uses the word plant) interpreted the original Hebrew with a limited archaic from of english. We have more reliable translations today that are closer to the original Hebrew meanings. However, just looking at the context for which the word plant is used....."they shall be no more consumed with hunger" doesn't sound like it is referring to marijuana which people don't eat to stave off hunger.

the text is referring to (1) God’s people’s crops and herds being very productive (i.e., evidence covenant restored,
which is the fruitfulness and safety described in vv. 25-27) or (2) God’s people going back to Palestine
(evidence covenant restored).http://freebiblecommentary.org/pdf/EN/VOL13BOT.pdf

[502mania]

Well firstly the King James version (that uses the word plant) interpreted the original Hebrew with a limited archaic from of english. We have more reliable translations today that are closer to the original Hebrew meanings. However, just looking at the context for which the word plant is used....."they shall be no more consumed with hunger" doesn't sound like it is referring to marijuana which people don't eat to stave off hunger.

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actually,hemp oil provides so many nutrients, you could eat it. second, hunger dosen't nessecarily mean for food. it could be for any resource. but th plant itself has healing properties and several non-healing.
The Bible predicts some herb's prohibition. "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from meats which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. (Paul: 1 Timothy 4:1-3). wich predicts lots of things today

[Falconer02]

Well, people can choose to use the bible for whatever they want, and obviously they do. I don't ever recall anyone trying to use the bible disprove aliens or dinosaurs. Anyone attempting to change the meaning of scripture, or add to it will suffer the consequences of those actions.

My friends uncle is a priest and at the family get-together, he told my friend that aliens do not exist because god never talks of them. He even backed it up with a few versus showing off how the universe is strictly for us, but since I wasn't there I cannot quote him (nor do I really want to). My friend just replied with "The bible does not say a lot of things". I've also read in creationist books (mainly young-earth c's) that aliens are a figment of the imagination and do not exist-- they are the product of hollywood and should be regarded only as that. But keep in mind these are the same people that do this-

 

[shernajwine]

Ok, I just looked up the word "plant" in the online Strongs concordance. The Hebrew word here is matta`
Meanings
1) place or act of planting, planting, plantation

a) planting place

b) act of planting

c) plantation

It is occurs 6 times in 6 verses.
Isa 60:21-planting
Isa 61:3-planting
Eze 17:7-plantation
Eze 31:4-plants
Eze 34:29-plant
Mic 1:6-plantings
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H4302&t=KJV

So when the newer translations came out, they were closer to the meaning of the original hebrew when they changed the word "plant" to reflect the correct meaning. So this scripture is clearly not referring to a specific plant.

[shernajwine]

Well, people can choose to use the bible for whatever they want, and obviously they do. I don't ever recall anyone trying to use the bible disprove aliens or dinosaurs. Anyone attempting to change the meaning of scripture, or add to it will suffer the consequences of those actions.

My friends uncle is a priest and at the family get-together, he told my friend that aliens do not exist because god never talks of them. He even backed it up with a few versus showing off how the universe is strictly for us, but since I wasn't there I cannot quote him (nor do I really want to). My friend just replied with "The bible does not say a lot of things". I've also read in creationist books (mainly young-earth c's) that aliens are a figment of the imagination and do not exist-- they are the product of hollywood and should be regarded only as that. But keep in mind these are the same people that do this-

 

I have never heard anyone, personally, trying to use the bible to say aliens don't exist. I am not responsible for other peoples ignorance.

[502mania]

you were righ about that plant thing, sherna. but it is still a gift ffrom god

[shernajwine]

you were righ about that plant thing, sherna. but it is still a gift ffrom god

I don't disagree with that. However, we should be mindful not to abuse God's gifts.

[502mania]

exactly, if peopl didn' abuse it it wouldn't be a problem for anyone. its not the weed its the one who abuses it that cases problems

[FuzzyCottonsocks]

It's definitely possible that we are not alone in the universe.  I think they will be no different than us in terms of nature. People seem to think aliens would be more peaceful than we are, but I doubt it.

[502mania]

It's definitely possible that we are not alone in the universe.  I think they will be no different than us in terms of nature. People seem to think aliens would be more peaceful than we are, but I doubt it.

could be, but if they were like us, some would come to earth to get famous, and others to make money. some even in attempt to take over. they are our sort of being - one without natural defense mechanisms (stingers, venom,) and seperate from animals with only logic to survive. but i don't think they are anything like us

[tantricia44]

I believe in 2 possibilities:

1. Yes, I believe that there maybe aliens. In fact, I think that WE, maybe the "ALIENS". There are studies that indicate that billions of years ago, meteorites have been bombarding the earth from outer space. You never know, we (DNA, Amino acids) might be the martins that hitched that ride on one of those meteors.

2. Yes, I believe that there maybe aliens but seeing how there are a lot of mentally under developed humans on earth..... The Aliens would by pass earth faster than the speed of light & find a planet with advance bacterium!!!! No, Humans are not ready to meet Higher forms of life. Maybe in a couple of trillion, trillion, trillions of years from now.....that is if, we didn't blow ourselves up in the process.

[nusa29]

I'm personaly very open minded on this subject and I follow-up on it .
I believe there is no way that we are here alone in this big universe and no one knows where it begins or ends.
There has to be new life forming all the time out there somewhere and some maybe ending, we just not advanced enough
for now to collect the needed facts and even if we are able to we diffenetly wouldn't comprehend it beacause it would be
to advanced for us.
But I also believe that there would also has to be less advanced worlds out there as well.
The one's that are visiting our skies here on earth are far to advanced since we can't figure it out yet.

[teflonfanatic]

The bible repeatedly says that angels appeared to man and before the flood came there were nephilim(King James and most bibles besides the NWT mistranslates the hebrew word for nephilim to Giants).

I'm not saying angels couldn't have appeared as an angel or even appearing as a human, what i'm saying is there's a possibility that angels when they were taken a form of man could have taken the form of a grey. This of course is speculation and can't be proven.