Aliens

[teflonfanatic]

I GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU NEVER READ THIS ABOUT THE EGYPTIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/alien_mummy.htm

Please read it or at least look at the picture on the page, it's short and it appeared on THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL!!!!!!!!

[Bluedee]

Again I will repeat my first post. In the beginning, when God was creating Adam he said, let US create him in OUR own image, in OUR own likeness. The words us and our are plural words, so who or what was he talking to? Also, (just food for thought here) if God had to take a rib from Adam to make Eve, then what did he use to make Adam and where did it come from? If there was only Adam and Eve, and they had Cain and Able, when Cain took a wife, where did she come from? hmmm you think there just might have been life before us? As in life on some of the other planets that God had already created?

[Falconer02]

Please read it or at least look at the picture on the page, it's short and it appeared on THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL!!!!!!!!

You're telling us to read this, but did you even READ the bottom of that page?

There are a myriad of cranial deformities which have been thoroughly cataloged by medical science, from Craniosynostosis (premature closing of one or more of the normally present bony gaps between the different bones of the skull) to Apert Syndrome (This deformity is extremely rare and very complex. It includes variations of many facial anomalies. Patients with Apert syndrome have bilateral coronal synostosis in combination with upper and midface retrusion), as well as Crouzon Syndrome, a rare congenital condition marked by craniosynostosis, exorbitism and midface retrusion. It affects one in 25,000 children. Patients with Crouzon's have very distinct facial features similar to Apert syndrome; This can include the enlarged cranium and bulging or out-set eyes due to distortion of the sockets.

For me it is somewhat of a leap to conclude that the above images feature an extra-terrestrial being, clearly encased, cataloged, examined and placed on display in some fashion with some unknown museum (as the images are clearly standard catalog photos of relics). There are dozens of medically recognized diseases which can explain the shape of the head. (A Real Audio/Video file of many varied cranial deformities corrected by modern plastic surgery can be seen here, One of which features a similar widening of the head and displacement of the eyes corrected in an interesting "morphing" shot. You must have Real Audio Player to see the video)

It should also be taken into consideration that the Egyptians were known to deliberately deform the natural contours and shape of the head from birth, using bindings and planks, to achieve an elongated skull proportion, which they regarded as aesthetically pleasing. When rational, earthly answers exist, extra-terrestrial answers are unwarranted.

I've seen many more oddly proportioned humans than this mummy. Saying it's an alien is just ridiculous.

[Falconer02]

Again I will repeat my first post. In the beginning, when God was creating Adam he said, let US create him in OUR own image, in OUR own likeness. The words us and our are plural words, so who or what was he talking to? Also, (just food for thought here) if God had to take a rib from Adam to make Eve, then what did he use to make Adam and where did it come from? If there was only Adam and Eve, and they had Cain and Able, when Cain took a wife, where did she come from? hmmm you think there just might have been life before us? As in life on some of the other planets that God had already created

No disrespect, but mixing a belief in aliens with religious myth is really jumping far into the deep end.

[teflonfanatic]

Again I will repeat my first post. In the beginning, when God was creating Adam he said, let US create him in OUR own image, in OUR own likeness. The words us and our are plural words, so who or what was he talking to? Also, (just food for thought here) if God had to take a rib from Adam to make Eve, then what did he use to make Adam and where did it come from? If there was only Adam and Eve, and they had Cain and Able, when Cain took a wife, where did she come from? hmmm you think there just might have been life before us? As in life on some of the other planets that God had already created?

he words us and our are plural words, so who or what was he talking to?

The genesis book is literally the Genesis of the bible, also almost everything in Genesis is vaguely explained just like the book of revelation.  Anyway here's your answer!!!!

  Job 38:7 reads When the morning stars joyfully cried out together,
And all the sons of God began shouting in applause?

Verse 4 tells you that Jehovah/Yahweh/YHWH/LORD made the earth and we all know that the Earth was made before us, so clearly the angels where there.

Who made man with Jehovah? Proverbs 8:22-30 goes into poetic detail how Genesis 1:1 and John 1:1 went down.

if God had to take a rib from Adam to make Eve, then what did he use to make Adam and where did it come from?

He used the same thing he used to create the wild beasts or land animals DIRT!!!!!

Genesis 1:25 reads . 25 And God proceeded to make the wild beast of the earth according to its kind and the domestic animal according to its kind and every moving animal of the ground according to its kind. And God got to see that [it was] good.

The previous verse says "let the earth produce wild beasts"

Genesis 2:7 reads 7 And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust from the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man came to be a living soul.

when Cain took a wife, where did she come from?

Genesis 5:4 reads And the days of Adam after his fathering Seth came to be eight hundred years. Meanwhile he became father to sons and daughters.

Cain got a distant relative of his, it sounds bad but then again we are ALL distant relatives.

[Bluedee]

Thank you for taking the time to give all of those answers. You are the very first person who has ever even attempted to give any kind of answer. I have ask many people these questions when I was in the church world and most of the time got the cold shoulder. But with that being said I still have to go back to my own personal experiences that tell me that beings from other planets do exist and were here long before us. Has anyone else had any personal experiences?

[marieelissa]

Thank you for taking the time to give all of those answers. You are the very first person who has ever even attempted to give any kind of answer. I have ask many people these questions when I was in the church world and most of the time got the cold shoulder. But with that being said I still have to go back to my own personal experiences that tell me that beings from other planets do exist and were here long before us. Has anyone else had any personal experiences?

The only experiences I have had are in my dreams.

[Falconer02]

almost everything in Genesis is vaguely explained just like the book of revelation

He used the same thing he used to create the wild beasts or land animals DIRT!!!!!

Cain got a distant relative of his, it sounds bad but then again we are ALL distant relatives.

I now understand why you sport the inability to grasp basic sciences.

[teflonfanatic]

Thank you for taking the time to give all of those answers. You are the very first person who has ever even attempted to give any kind of answer. I have ask many people these questions when I was in the church world and most of the time got the cold shoulder. But with that being said I still have to go back to my own personal experiences that tell me that beings from other planets do exist and were here long before us. Has anyone else had any personal experiences?

The only beings that exist before us was the angels. Ancient alien conspirators always try to tie the polytheistic cultures to meeting "aliens". Interestingly enough most if not all polytheistic cultures did NOT believe in angels.
May I ask what do you mean by cold shoulder? Did they give you the just have faith or believe line? If so I can give you half a dozen or more scriptures that contradict that.

[SCarter984]

Thank you for taking the time to give all of those answers. You are the very first person who has ever even attempted to give any kind of answer. I have ask many people these questions when I was in the church world and most of the time got the cold shoulder. But with that being said I still have to go back to my own personal experiences that tell me that beings from other planets do exist and were here long before us. Has anyone else had any personal experiences?

The only beings that exist before us was the angels. Ancient alien conspirators always try to tie the polytheistic cultures to meeting "aliens". Interestingly enough most if not all polytheistic cultures did NOT believe in angels.
May I ask what do you mean by cold shoulder? Did they give you the just have faith or believe line? If so I can give you half a dozen or more scriptures that contradict that.

Tef, it sounds like you have a good grasp and meaning of the Torah, however, let me see if I understand all of what you said.  You say that the only beings that existed before us were the angels.  So does that mean that with all the planets in the universe, we are the only beings (outside of angels) that exist?  If that is so, then you believe that all the other planets are uninhabited? 

[teflonfanatic]

Thank you for taking the time to give all of those answers. You are the very first person who has ever even attempted to give any kind of answer. I have ask many people these questions when I was in the church world and most of the time got the cold shoulder. But with that being said I still have to go back to my own personal experiences that tell me that beings from other planets do exist and were here long before us. Has anyone else had any personal experiences?

The only beings that exist before us was the angels. Ancient alien conspirators always try to tie the polytheistic cultures to meeting "aliens". Interestingly enough most if not all polytheistic cultures did NOT believe in angels.
May I ask what do you mean by cold shoulder? Did they give you the just have faith or believe line? If so I can give you half a dozen or more scriptures that contradict that.

Tef, it sounds like you have a good grasp and meaning of the Torah, however, let me see if I understand all of what you said.  You say that the only beings that existed before us were the angels.  So does that mean that with all the planets in the universe, we are the only beings (outside of angels) that exist?  If that is so, then you believe that all the other planets are uninhabited? 

I have a good foundation for most of the bible not just the torah, as for other life on planets although I disagree i'm open to read the "evidence" if they are any.

@falconor:  FORMING LIFE OUT OF MATTER (Genesis 2:7)

In the physical world we live in almost everything is from dirt. Food, rocks, trees, glass, steel, metal, computers etc. Today man has been able to make a being in his own image to a degree from matter. We call that being robot.

I don't see how your first and third quotes of me fit into science.

[SCarter984]

Thank you for taking the time to give all of those answers. You are the very first person who has ever even attempted to give any kind of answer. I have ask many people these questions when I was in the church world and most of the time got the cold shoulder. But with that being said I still have to go back to my own personal experiences that tell me that beings from other planets do exist and were here long before us. Has anyone else had any personal experiences?

The only beings that exist before us was the angels. Ancient alien conspirators always try to tie the polytheistic cultures to meeting "aliens". Interestingly enough most if not all polytheistic cultures did NOT believe in angels.
May I ask what do you mean by cold shoulder? Did they give you the just have faith or believe line? If so I can give you half a dozen or more scriptures that contradict that.

Tef, it sounds like you have a good grasp and meaning of the Torah, however, let me see if I understand all of what you said.  You say that the only beings that existed before us were the angels.  So does that mean that with all the planets in the universe, we are the only beings (outside of angels) that exist?  If that is so, then you believe that all the other planets are uninhabited? 

I have a good foundation for most of the bible not just the torah, as for other life on planets although I disagree i'm open to read the "evidence" if they are any.

@falconor:  FORMING LIFE OUT OF MATTER (Genesis 2:7)

In the physical world we live in almost everything is from dirt. Food, rocks, trees, glass, steel, metal, computers etc. Today man has been able to make a being in his own image to a degree from matter. We call that being robot.

I don't see how your first and third quotes of me fit into science.

What would you consider good evidence outside of actually seeing an extraterrestrial being?  There is a lot of talk about sightings, even as recent as October of this year.  Of course, you actually have to be present to determine what is being seen, but what other evidence would convince you?

[Falconer02]

In the physical world we live in almost everything is from dirt. Food, rocks, trees, glass, steel, metal, computers etc Today man has been able to make a being in his own image to a degree from matter. We call that being robot.

What are you talking about? You're starting off with old ancient myths and concluding with robots now. Is it really that hard to get your head more than 2 inches away from your bible? Look, sorry to sound so offensive, but you'd learn a lot more about this world if you wouldn't constantly jump into your small religious bubble and act like you know what you're talking about when talking universals. "Oh there were angels before the earth was made. It's true. I know it." No. You don't. What it comes down to is that you have an old outdated rewritten book chock-full of fantasies and you're using it as a source for scientific research and teaching. It would seem as if you're completely comfortable with the self-deception that comes along with your belief system.

I don't see how your first and third quotes of me fit into science.

That's the problem. You need logical explanations for these things if you're going to march around asserting that these myths are true to justify current events. Telling people that they were made from dust from some deity/spreading around the world through narrow incestuous breeding/ superiorly vague ideas about the future makes absolutely no sense. Rejecting reality and education in favor of asserting fantasy and allowing for the impossible (self-deception) is your only way to justify these beliefs.

What would you consider good evidence outside of actually seeing an extraterrestrial being?

I always get a kick out of this- considering the religious believe in old myths, it would be logical to conclude that it wouldn't take too much evidence. But that's rarely the case. I'm sure that there will be some double-standard that will present itself.

[Bluedee]

By cold shoulder I mean they would not look at me nor talk to me. I was asking too many questions that they obviously had no answers to. It was as if I was not even there. So I came out of the church world and began searching for my answers on my own. I feel that God and I are closer now than the entire time I was in any of the churches. I have found that if you truly down deep in your heart want to find the truth, you have to be able and willing to be open and ready to accept that truth even if it means wiping out everything you thought you knew. As I have said before, I have had a lot of personal experiences that I had to go through and that is what has brought me to believe the way I believe today. I do know the bible, I do know and love God. I am not a scientific person but I do know that even they are coming to the point where they are having to admit that there is and has been others besides just us. As I have also said before, I feel that we have to allow each person to believe whatever they can deal with. If I am wrong then I will find that out in time. If I am right, then those that don't believe will find that out in time. I am not trying to convince anyone to believe the way I do, only stating my own personal opinion. After all, feelings aren't right or wrong they just are. Each and every person has to find their own path in their own way.

[marieelissa]

By cold shoulder I mean they would not look at me nor talk to me. I was asking too many questions that they obviously had no answers to. It was as if I was not even there. So I came out of the church world and began searching for my answers on my own. I feel that God and I are closer now than the entire time I was in any of the churches. I have found that if you truly down deep in your heart want to find the truth, you have to be able and willing to be open and ready to accept that truth even if it means wiping out everything you thought you knew. As I have said before, I have had a lot of personal experiences that I had to go through and that is what has brought me to believe the way I believe today. I do know the bible, I do know and love God. I am not a scientific person but I do know that even they are coming to the point where they are having to admit that there is and has been others besides just us. As I have also said before, I feel that we have to allow each person to believe whatever they can deal with. If I am wrong then I will find that out in time. If I am right, then those that don't believe will find that out in time. I am not trying to convince anyone to believe the way I do, only stating my own personal opinion. After all, feelings aren't right or wrong they just are. Each and every person has to find their own path in their own way.

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