Fallout of Hate Is Spreading Across America from 9/11 Site

[SurveyMack10]

I believe it is just a building and that the terrorists are not building it.

Well if Rauf can defend his and his wife statements about Americans that will help prove that there is no terrorist initiative behind it. However, either way I find it highly disrespectful

[Annella]

Annella, I already posted what upsets me, from the locked thread that was a part of your reply to me there. The other thing I said pulled in here by you from the thread of walksalone? I said I found it 'interesting' that Mackenzie wrote what she did. Why? Because it was posted with a quote from you about spelling your name correctly and she mentioned the talking down to others and not addressing the issue. Maybe you do NOT find that strange, but considering you 2 are friends, I thought it odd because you have not addressed walksalone's thread, so it appeared as if she was saying what she did to you, period. I don't know why that is such a big deal, it was just a comment and not meant to incite. That in itself is ridiculous. You have said why you haven't posted, but that's between you and him.

I have made very few posts in the lengthy threads re anything Christian for a couple months now. They have gotten to a point of being a circular argument/discussion between sherna and queen for the most part and neither side is going to convince the other. I actually stopped reading them. I have said plenty to marieelissa, but if you consider that awful because she is a Christian on a given day, well, that is how you feel. I don't include her in the group of well thought out posters on here, so I do not really care.  You took it out of context.

Therein 'lies the rub' as they say. Whether I am asking questions about the bible or religion and you are answering or I make a post without being derogatory in it, it seems that somehow it usually gets turned around and you are once again putting me in a certain 'group'. If you look back at the locked thread, where I took my quote from, you will see what I am saying - in part ie :"Your taking words and using them against Christian, just like you've always done." I DO NOT always do that. You have done it many times and it comes at me out of the clear blue. Why is it I can say things to amyrouse, sherna, sheryl, other 'religious' people and I do not get a backlash? If THEY disagree with me it is never posted in the same manner that you do. I won't deny your expertise on the bible, it's there. But you are not an expert on everything out there that is talked about in these forums. NO ONE is.  It seems as if one minute you are calm and collected and the next you're making accusations, generalizations, and angry at anyone who doesn't agree with you 100%. I just don't work that way. I am NOT SAYING you do this ONLY to me. I have seen it happen with others and from their replies, they appear to be bewildered by it also.

I don't expect to be agreed with by everyone, but I do know about a few things. I just can't help wondering when you are 'nice' one minute and the next minute I feel like I can hear you seething at me because I am not in your 'christian family'. Defend your friends, I don't care about that, but I don't find it okay to put others in a bad light just to do it. I am not a doormat either. It's hard to explain, but that's the best I can do right now. I am already late for work, typed this out way too fast and I am sure I will see something I wish I had left out or put in, but I have GOT to go.

Your right, I will not post in Walkalone threads anymore.....it's my personal choice.  My boundaries.  That... is a good example of personal attack without provocation.....moving on.

Because we are FRIENDS, (Mackenzie and I) you should have known she wasn't referring to that at all.  I feel you took that for an opportunity to twist her words at me.  If you have some beef against me, say it to me.  She felt bad, and posted me about not referring to me that way.  I'm not stupid.  You accuse me of taking it out of context, when in actuallity, you took it out of context, and twisted it.  You say no....nothing can be further from the truth...........

As far as putting you in a group, I said it one time....not constantly like your accusing me of.  You accuse me of doing it many times.....where?   However, it's no "revelation" who the Christians, Athiests, Agnostics, or just those who want to jump on the bandwagon, are.  Sherna put it pretty well when she said, it's not Christians, vs. Non Christians.  True, there's more being represented than mentioned.  

Now your judging my character.  Nice one minute and then seething the next?  Can you actually see that or maybe I'm answering the qestions in the same way they were presented.  If I offend anyone, I'm quick to apologize when I'm wrong, or found to be wrong.  Some of your accusations have no merit or they are your own personal feelings.  I do not fling accusations, generalizations, and angry at anyone who doesn't agree with me 100%.....cheap shot.  That is not true.  The subject of the Muslim Mosque got very "heated".  On both sides.....I might add.  

Your making some very accusatory "flings" at my character, and I'm going to call you on it.  I've never made negative responses about your character.  You made reference to my "high and mighty attitude".  I've never called people names said their remarks were inflammatory, like you've said to me.  Everybody has a right to post their convictions, whether it be Chirstian or not.  The very things your accusing me of, your guilty of them.

Not all Christians are cookie cutter robots.  If I'm being attaked in a post without any provocation, or my brothers or sisters, it's going to get addressed.  It's unprovoked.  Not just you, but anyone who thinks they can say anything about the Lord I love, and the people that follow him.  Oh I'm not just saying anything like a normal "razzying", but a real pointed attack, will not slide by.  Sherna posts how she wants to, Sheryl posts how she wants to, etc. Everybody is different and everybody has a different way of expressing themselves.  Don't try to separate Sherna, Sheryl, Amyrouse, ect., like we are different people.  We are all in the same family, and love the same Lord.  We are different in our personalities and postings, but there is no separation between us and there is no discord among us, so don't imply one.

Yes, I remember that long post about how you saw things changing in the Forum, how there were more and more Chirstians coming on and on and on......I'll go get it for the next post.  What you were really saying is that you didn't like the change of the Christians defending their Faith, and more of them felt more comfortable posting.  You went into great detail about it.  Well, things change, and I've gotten emails from people on this forum who are glad to be able to join in again to where before they felt left out.  I remember you started out with "what happened to turning the other cheek".  That's the REAL problem here isn't it?  You don't like Christians to stand up and lift up a standard when they are attacked.  We are called hypocritical, but none of us have made disparaging remarks or damaging references to you about Atheism or whatever.  However, it seems to be open season on Christians 24/7, and now when someone says....hey, wait a minute, then it's time to pull out the "turn the other cheek" and start judging us with it.

I never once said I knew it all.  Man I wish!  I get very fervent sometimes on a subject......so does everybody else. Never would I be angry because someone was not in my Christian family.  That's absurd, I've devoted my life to taking this gospel to the lost.  You've made a lot of negative accusations here about my character, and claims that I've done this and that.  Those acussations are unfounded, or it's how you perceive it.  

[SurveyMack10]

My dad told me, the majority of people that worked in the World Trade Center are (were) Muslim...and thought is was ironic that they would kill their own people.

Please post a shred of evidence proving that.

[shernajwine]

Annella, I think if anyone heard your voice on the phone they could never think badly of you! 

[Annella]

Annella, I think if anyone heard your voice on the phone they could never think badly of you!  

Awwww... Thank you sweetie!  

[amyrouse]

My dad told me, the majority of people that worked in the World Trade Center are (were) Muslim...and thought is was ironic that they would kill their own people.

Please post a shred of evidence proving that.

Mack...before you waste much of your time...you really aren't going to get anywhere arguing with Marie.  Really, many of us, including Annella, have tried talking to her.  She just enjoys the attention, I guess.   

[jordandog]

Annella,
Don't waste your time pulling posts from another thread in order to continue this. You were quite clear in how you feel and I don't need to read any more, thanks, but no thanks. If you want to do it for your own sake or so that others can see it and rally up, that's your perogative. I won't be responding to any more about this, so the ball is in your court. May the force be with you.

[Annella]

Annella,
Don't waste your time pulling posts from another thread in order to continue this. You were quite clear in how you feel and I don't need to read any more, thanks, but no thanks. If you want to do it for your own sake or so that others can see it and rally up, that's your perogative. I won't be responding to any more about this, so the ball is in your court. May the force be with you.

Nope, not necessary, and others can read and form their own opinions.  Actually, I don't have to "rally" anything. Have a good day, and God Bless you.

[SurveyMack10]

My dad told me, the majority of people that worked in the World Trade Center are (were) Muslim...and thought is was ironic that they would kill their own people.

Please post a shred of evidence proving that.

Mack...before you waste much of your time...you really aren't going to get anywhere arguing with Marie.  Really, many of us, including Annella, have tried talking to her.  She just enjoys the attention, I guess.   

Thanks for the warning, I see she has no intention of proving anything she says even when she is asked for proof so I suppose it's pointless.

[SurveyMack10]

My dad told me, the majority of people that worked in the World Trade Center are (were) Muslim...and thought is was ironic that they would kill their own people.

Please post a shred of evidence proving that.

I don't need to prove it...you prove it wasn't true...and I will continue to know what I know.

So your proof is "your dad said so." Attaway to pull the facts. Know what you know, ignorance is bliss I suppose.

[amyrouse]

My dad told me, the majority of people that worked in the World Trade Center are (were) Muslim...and thought is was ironic that they would kill their own people.

Please post a shred of evidence proving that.

Mack...before you waste much of your time...you really aren't going to get anywhere arguing with Marie.  Really, many of us, including Annella, have tried talking to her.  She just enjoys the attention, I guess.   

Of course you won't get anywhere with me because I will not change my beliefs.

There is a difference between fact and belief.  Read up on Mitochondrial Eve, yet, Marie?

[Annella]

My dad told me, the majority of people that worked in the World Trade Center are (were) Muslim...and thought is was ironic that they would kill their own people.

Please post a shred of evidence proving that.

Mack...before you waste much of your time...you really aren't going to get anywhere arguing with Marie.  Really, many of us, including Annella, have tried talking to her.  She just enjoys the attention, I guess.  

Of course you won't get anywhere with me because I will not change my beliefs.

There is a difference between fact and belief.  Read up on Mitochondrial Eve, yet, Marie?

Read up on the fact that we are DUST?

Marieelissa, what in the world does your last post have to do with this subject

As far as the other stats....I'm not buying it.  Oh, I don't doubt there were some Muslims that got in the way of their Muslim brothers blowing them to bits.  They probably reasoned it out that they were sending them to paradise where the virgins were waiting.  They seem to have no problem with strapping on a belt of C-4 and getting on a bus and obliberating themselves and everyone else there.  I've never heard of any one of them taking an attendance roll if there were other Muslims on that bus or not.

There have been videos presented to the media, where Israeli soldiers have murdered men, women, and children, and you can see them all laying in a pile....supposedly dead.  Then the next set of videos come up at some Muslim rally, and there are some of the same people in that one, and some are even wearing the same clothes from the "dead" one.  I mean.....I believe in the resurrection, but man.................  Someone should inform them there are costume changes between takes.

They have been caught more than once "staging" an attack, and then video taping the victims (uh actors).

[SurveyMack10]

"Not all Muslims are terrorists," Bethea said. "Muslims died on 9/11, as well.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2010-05-07-mosque-ground-zero_N.htm

By my reckoning, 23 Muslims were killed in the 9/11 attacks, about 3/4 of one percent of the total victims. The Pew Muslim American study estimated that Muslims constituted 0.6 percent of the American adult population. So the percentage of 9/11 victims who were Muslims is very similar to the percentage of Americans who are Muslims. And Omar Shahin was off by a factor of 50.

http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/allposts/in-memorium-muslims-who-died-inside-the-wtc-on-911

So you agree that there was about 23 muslims that died in the attack? THREE FOURTHS OF ONE PERCENT OF THE TOTAL VICTIMS?

[amyrouse]

My dad told me, the majority of people that worked in the World Trade Center are (were) Muslim...and thought is was ironic that they would kill their own people.

Please post a shred of evidence proving that.

Mack...before you waste much of your time...you really aren't going to get anywhere arguing with Marie.  Really, many of us, including Annella, have tried talking to her.  She just enjoys the attention, I guess.  

Of course you won't get anywhere with me because I will not change my beliefs.

There is a difference between fact and belief.  Read up on Mitochondrial Eve, yet, Marie?

Read up on the fact that we are DUST?

Marieelissa, what in the world does your last post have to do with this subject

As far as the other stats....I'm not buying it.  Oh, I don't doubt there were some Muslims that got in the way of their Muslim brothers blowing them to bits.  They probably reasoned it out that they were sending them to paradise where the virgins were waiting.  They seem to have no problem with strapping on a belt of C-4 and getting on a bus and obliberating themselves and everyone else there.  I've never heard of any one of them taking an attendance roll if there were other Muslims on that bus or not.

There have been videos presented to the media, where Israeli soldiers have murdered men, women, and children, and you can see them all laying in a pile....supposedly dead.  Then the next set of videos come up at some Muslim rally, and there are some of the same people in that one, and some are even wearing the same clothes from the "dead" one.  I mean.....I believe in the resurrection, but man.................  Someone should inform them there are costume changes between takes.

They have been caught more than once "staging" an attack, and then video taping the victims (uh actors).

I was goading her, Annella.  She keeps claiming that Mitochondrial Eve and Biblical Eve are the same, despite many posts with links informing her otherwise.  I got annoyed, and I pushed.  I try to avoid it, but I'm not perfect.

I'm sorry for pushing you, Marie, no matter how ill informed you are, and no matter how much you ignore the pleas to do your research and post fact instead of your version of truth.  Free will and internet and all that...you're more than within your right to post your 

[shernajwine]

wow, this thread is in left field lol