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Annella

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #150 on: August 26, 2010, 10:24:26 pm »
I'm highly interested to see where this goes......

There ya are sweetie!

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #151 on: August 26, 2010, 10:24:54 pm »
OK Daddy Mack, I live totally off grid and my batteries are about dead......come on back tomorrow if you like.

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #152 on: August 26, 2010, 10:35:06 pm »
Hahahahhahaha thanks so much for that, and you say Christians are judgemental??

I would have to say that's a little different...that would be like a *bleep* putting up a wall with a swastikka(sp.?) on it in a Jewish community...people are STILL hurting from the tragedies of 9/11. But to me that's not even the main issue.

Where is the funding coming from?
Does Imam agree with his wife that in America there is nothing but hate for muslims?
And what are his intentions for the mosque...especially after making controversial remarks such as "we tend to forget, in the west, that the United States has more muslim blood on its hands than Al Qaeda has on its hand on innocent non-muslims"
I have trouble supporting him, not because he's muslim, but because he thinks the U.S. has done more damage among muslims that Al Qaeda (an organization CENTERED on terrorism who aims attacks at the U.S.) has done to Americans.

THAT STATEMENT is disrespectful to victims of 9/11. Simple as that.
The US has more blood on it's hands from right here on this continent then any other foreigners do.

Why is it that whenever I made a valid point regarding the Mosque that YOU brought into the argument, you change the subject. Let's make this debate worthwhile, go ahead and answer some of my questions and Imam Rauf, his beliefs, his funding...prove that Christians vote against it out of hate and not common sense.
The be honest I am not familiar with the conduct of Imam Rauf. Let me ask you since you insinuate you are familiar with him, has he been convicted of any crimes, or are you just assuming he is guilty without a trial? Certainly a fine patriot such as your self wouldn't concieve of bending your constitution would you.

Now, lets suppose he were guilty of all charges, would you support any other muslim or muslim organization building a "community Center" at he location in question?

WHEN did I claim he was guilty of a crime. Please quote that for me.
So there are questions to his character, you can't start punishing someone before they are found guilty, as far as his claims as to US narm toward Muslims, I am not a scholar of Muslim events, but using the precedence that the US has set in regards to many other peoples here and abroad, I wouldn't dismiss his claims.

I never said go ahead and punish him. I'm simply saying that as Americans we deserve to be informed, and I don't mean I want CNN to give me a liberalized version of who Rauf is.

We should get to know WHERE is the funding coming from? Our tax dollars?
Who is this guy? Where did he grow up? Where does he stand on the issues with Iraq, Afghanistan, Al Qaeda?
How does he feel about Americans actions toward Muslims?
Does he feel extremely mistreated as a muslim, does this make him angry, does he have a history of supporting violent acts or the practice of violence among islamic extremists?
If the mosque is so important to him, why does he reject the idea of building it in a different location?
How does he feel about his wife saying Americans hate muslims (not in those exact words)?


What we DO know is he believes Americans have more muslim blood on their hands than muslims do us.

We should get to know how he feels about this! To me going around saying that we have done more damage to them than Al Qaeda and other muslim terrorists have done to us is SCARY to American people...and DISRESPECTFUL to 9/11 victims.

I simply think that as an American, I should get to know all the facts and base my choice on them.

Also, I find it unfair that because he's muslim and it's a mosque us acting any questions about it is deemed hateful, intolerant, and prejudice...we STILL deserve to know.

If 9/11 were attacked by Christians, and the main target had been muslims do you think they'd glorify us building a Christian church in the same vicinity. I highly doubt it.

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #153 on: August 26, 2010, 10:36:35 pm »
OK Daddy Mack, I live totally off grid and my batteries are about dead......come on back tomorrow if you like.

BTW, I'm a girl. So the smartalec remark was a bit ignorant in this case. I'll be sure to reply tomorrow or the next day, don't you worry.

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #154 on: August 26, 2010, 10:37:15 pm »
OK Daddy Mack, I live totally off grid and my batteries are about dead......come on back tomorrow if you like.

I'll bring the popcorn.....

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #155 on: August 26, 2010, 10:38:24 pm »
OK Daddy Mack, I live totally off grid and my batteries are about dead......come on back tomorrow if you like.

BTW, I'm a girl. So the smartalec remark was a bit ignorant in this case. I'll be sure to reply tomorrow or the next day, don't you worry.

Bwhahahahahahaha  Classic! :thumbsup:

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #156 on: August 26, 2010, 10:42:06 pm »

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #157 on: August 26, 2010, 10:49:24 pm »
I'm highly interested to see where this goes......

There ya are sweetie!

I've mostly been observing today!  ;)


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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #158 on: August 26, 2010, 10:52:48 pm »
I'm highly interested to see where this goes......

There ya are sweetie!

I've mostly been observing today!  ;)

Yeah, I was wondering cause you weren't posting.  Observing is good.  I'm going to be doing some of that myself.  Kinda feel that's what's right sometimes.  I'll pass the "Mantle" to you tomorrow huh? :thumbsup:

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #159 on: August 27, 2010, 04:43:25 am »
Christianity in NO way says if you don't devote your life to Jesus you will burn in hell for your sins

Of course it does!

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There was no need for your hateful response. She was simply throwing in a quote from WWII because it fit in the the story being told

Something everyone needs to remember about the Internet is that TONE is hard to detect.  I am never trying to be "hateful" in ANY of my responses.  Heated or blunt, but never "hateful".

The reason why I responded to her how I did is because "no atheists in foxholes" is a harmful cliche.  Most "atheists" that convert to Christianity weren't really atheists (they were simply non-religious without rock-solid reasons for being so).

As much as I'd love for an atheist to tell me what my God says, I'd rather turn to the Bible. A Christian God is a forgiving God. We can sin, we can make mistakes, we can stray from the path, as long in the end we recognize our mistakes and repent, ask forgiveness, and MEAN it. This is no way means if you sin boom you go to hell just like that.
I did not read where  ANYONE except the christians tell you what YOUR GOD said.  I would love for you to point that out. And this is not hateful this is called a debate, and yes my point was and still is being proved. You just proved it again!! This is superb :)

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #160 on: August 27, 2010, 04:47:22 am »
And wow if the proof isn't in the pudding,, again you have proved my point with the page above :)

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #161 on: August 27, 2010, 06:04:01 am »
 :)I did rely to your question.  I am not sure wy they didn't post it back to you.  MY basic belief no one should hte anyone.  You can be  angry over an issue, simply noy care for the person.  Religion is personal and i believe God exists.  If truly thought out, I beleive many others would realize what I am referring in my thought process.

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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #162 on: August 27, 2010, 07:42:11 am »
In no way is that crafting a God. The essence of a Christian God is that he recognizes that we sin, since the say the forbidden apple was eaten. He gave his sons life for our sins, recognizing that AS HUMANS we will sin. I don't understand how you, an atheist, can preach to a Christian about their own God?

Uh...you obviously didn't read what I quoted from that person very closley:

"Jesus/God are forgiving" ==> Incorrect use of the word "are" because Jesus and god are one-in-the-same.  This shows that this person doesn't really know much about Christianity.

"He or whom ever you beleive in" ==> Demonstrates that this person thinks that as long as a person believes in SOME god, they're good.

"should recognize we are humans and we make mistakes" ==> Earlier this person claimed they don't think disbelief is a guaranteed hell sentence, even though it's the "one unforgivable sin".


So correction to you: that person is NOT a Christian.  They are a mushy, "I believe there's a higher power but I don't have to do much to prove it" kind of person.  They may have some details of Christianity tangled in there because that is the main form of brainwashing in this country.

And I 100% have the credentials for being able to talk about this religion - I lived it.
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."
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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #163 on: August 27, 2010, 02:47:03 pm »
In no way is that crafting a God. The essence of a Christian God is that he recognizes that we sin, since the say the forbidden apple was eaten. He gave his sons life for our sins, recognizing that AS HUMANS we will sin. I don't understand how you, an atheist, can preach to a Christian about their own God?

Uh...you obviously didn't read what I quoted from that person very closley:

"Jesus/God are forgiving" ==> Incorrect use of the word "are" because Jesus and god are one-in-the-same.  This shows that this person doesn't really know much about Christianity.

"He or whom ever you beleive in" ==> Demonstrates that this person thinks that as long as a person believes in SOME god, they're good.

"should recognize we are humans and we make mistakes" ==> Earlier this person claimed they don't think disbelief is a guaranteed hell sentence, even though it's the "one unforgivable sin".


So correction to you: that person is NOT a Christian.  They are a mushy, "I believe there's a higher power but I don't have to do much to prove it" kind of person.  They may have some details of Christianity tangled in there because that is the main form of brainwashing in this country.

And I 100% have the credentials for being able to talk about this religion - I lived it.

Really?  Because you 100% don't know what your talking about the "one unforgivable sin"  You may have "lived it", but something didn't take.  Hey, you want to find out just how much Bible you know, and if those credentials are real or not?  I posted a long thread about the unpardonable sin, and I'm sure you read it.

You accuse me of judging.  What are you doing here?  Since when do you have any "credentials" to make the call if someone is a Christian or not?  You don't even believe in the Bible or God!! 

There has been exhaustive debates about your atheist ideas, etc.  Now lets have one on the Bible.  Since you have 100% credentials, and "lived it", lets just see.  I'll let you go first........


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Re: Why do Christians hate atheists?
« Reply #164 on: August 27, 2010, 03:10:05 pm »
Christianity in NO way says if you don't devote your life to Jesus you will burn in hell for your sins

Of course it does!

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There was no need for your hateful response. She was simply throwing in a quote from WWII because it fit in the the story being told

Something everyone needs to remember about the Internet is that TONE is hard to detect.  I am never trying to be "hateful" in ANY of my responses.  Heated or blunt, but never "hateful".

The reason why I responded to her how I did is because "no atheists in foxholes" is a harmful cliche.  Most "atheists" that convert to Christianity weren't really atheists (they were simply non-religious without rock-solid reasons for being so).

As much as I'd love for an atheist to tell me what my God says, I'd rather turn to the Bible. A Christian God is a forgiving God. We can sin, we can make mistakes, we can stray from the path, as long in the end we recognize our mistakes and repent, ask forgiveness, and MEAN it. This is no way means if you sin boom you go to hell just like that.
I did not read where  ANYONE except the christians tell you what YOUR GOD said.  I would love for you to point that out. And this is not hateful this is called a debate, and yes my point was and still is being proved. You just proved it again!! This is superb :)

I was referring to the comment made by an atheist saying that a Christian God sends you off to hell for sinning and not having every breathing second of your life a reflection of Him, when in actuality a Christian God is a forgiving God.

And i quoted where people were being hateful and using personal attacks instead of reasoning about the issues at hand.

And I'll ask you again, what is your point? You never answered my question. What point exactly were you trying to prove when you posted this thread?

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