Favorite Bible Quotes

[shernajwine]

I completely agree with you amy!

[shernajwine]

marie, please get into contact with Annella outside the forum. I can hear the fear in your words and my heart goes out to you but I cannot effectively help you here in this public area and I'm probably not as qualified as Annella. Please talk to her, I'm sure she can help you.

[Annella]

marie, please get into contact with Annella outside the forum. I can hear the fear in your words and my heart goes out to you but I cannot effectively help you here in this public area and I'm probably not as qualified as Annella. Please talk to her, I'm sure she can help you.

I've left you (marieelissa) a couple emails hon.....

[ashraj8]

My fav quote is
I believe the only way you get into heaven is if you are baptized, among other things.

[amyrouse]

My fav quote is
I believe the only way you get into heaven is if you are baptized, among other things.

    Anyone know what Bible verse backs that "fav quote" up? 

Here  ya go, Sheryl:

   Acts 2:38: "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."

[jordandog]

I believe the only way you get into heaven is if you are baptized, among other things.

I believe they were copying this when they posted that, Sheryl. The citing of The Acts verse has nothing to do with going to heaven. It is receiving the Holy Spirit and therefore salvation. Even the gentiles received the Holy Ghost, so that is not 'proof' of going to heaven. Baptism has nothing to do with going to heaven either. Nowhere does the bible say do this ceremony and you will receive salvation and get into heaven. Salvation is supposed to come from faith, not from faith and then a ceremony someone goes through.

Let me put it this way: if baptism is necessary for salvation then anyone who 'receives Christ' on his deathbed in a hospital, etc. would go to hell if they don't get baptized before they die. Also, if baptism is necessary for salvation, then all babies who die go to hell since they weren't all baptized.

[AmyTrivitt]

There are only 2 people in here that are not HELL BOUND! 

Hmmm gods followers must remember JUDGE NOT. So in that retrospect you my dear are hell bound.

[AmyTrivitt]

I don't believe in God, never did, I really don't but that fear of burning in hell is always there...thanks to made up religion and that I cannot even tell if God is real.

Yeah, I said it...if there is no God...I wish something could be done...so I could finally get some peace and sleep at night without thinking Demons are going to possess me or the Devil will drag me to hell.

It is all out of fear...

WHAT THE HELL? Your past posts to this post have made no sense what so ever. Maybe you should seek out counseling hon.

[shernajwine]

I believe the only way you get into heaven is if you are baptized, among other things.

I believe they were copying this when they posted that, Sheryl. The citing of The Acts verse has nothing to do with going to heaven. It is receiving the Holy Spirit and therefore salvation. Even the gentiles received the Holy Ghost, so that is not 'proof' of going to heaven. Baptism has nothing to do with going to heaven either. Nowhere does the bible say do this ceremony and you will receive salvation and get into heaven. Salvation is supposed to come from faith, not from faith and then a ceremony someone goes through.

Let me put it this way: if baptism is necessary for salvation then anyone who 'receives Christ' on his deathbed in a hospital, etc. would go to hell if they don't get baptized before they die. Also, if baptism is necessary for salvation, then all babies who die go to hell since they weren't all baptized.

Very good analysis of baptism!

[jordandog]

Thank you, Sherene. I am sure if anything I posted is incorrect, someone with better knowledge will post corrections to what I wrote.

[Annella]

I believe the only way you get into heaven is if you are baptized, among other things.

I believe they were copying this when they posted that, Sheryl. The citing of The Acts verse has nothing to do with going to heaven. It is receiving the Holy Spirit and therefore salvation. Even the gentiles received the Holy Ghost, so that is not 'proof' of going to heaven. Baptism has nothing to do with going to heaven either. Nowhere does the bible say do this ceremony and you will receive salvation and get into heaven. Salvation is supposed to come from faith, not from faith and then a ceremony someone goes through.

Let me put it this way: if baptism is necessary for salvation then anyone who 'receives Christ' on his deathbed in a hospital, etc. would go to hell if they don't get baptized before they die. Also, if baptism is necessary for salvation, then all babies who die go to hell since they weren't all baptized.

You err in the scriptures and taking them out of context.  Acts 2:38 is the "PLAN" of Salvation to prepare you for Heaven.  However, the whole second chapter of Acts is of receiving of the promise of the Holy Ghost (as spoken by the Prophet Joel), and when Jesus told His disciples, to go and wait for the promise of on high (Holy Ghost).  ALSO, This is where Peter stands up and tells what to do, when they were "pricked " in their heart of conviction.  Jesus had already died and rose.  This was the birth of the dispensation of Grace, and the birth of the church.  I know I've mentioned this before and caught flack about it not being in the Bible....but it is.

Your right, in that it takes faith to come to the Lord.  However, there is "ACTION" to be taken after that faith.  

Baptizing a baby with sprinkling gives the baby no choice.  A baby cannot make a choice of Baptism or non Baptism.  There has to be an age of accountability (which is different for everyone), (when they understand right from wrong).  Everyone chooses, that's our free will.  An innocent child that does not understand the concept of sin, cannot understand the reason to be baptized for remission of sins.  There has to come a day for that realization.  Since God knows the very intentions of our heart, that would include children also, and He is the judge.  An innocent child cannot go to hell for something they don't understand.

I was helping conduct a revival a few years back, and saw 2 little 3 year old girls go to the alter hand and hand, and receive the Holy Ghost (speaking in tongues).  We baptized both of them that night in Jesus Name.  They understood enough to repent of there sins, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.  Even though what sins could a 3 year old have, I don't know.  Of course both of them were born in Christian families in the church and, came to that knowledge at an early age.  The age of accountability is different for every child.

As far as receiving Christ on your deathbed.......well, my question would be, why did they wait to make the ultimate choice just before death?  However, I've witnessed repenting just before dying, and we would baptize them in Jesus Name, and they would receive the Holy Ghost.  There is no death bed repentance unless there is the fulfilling of the WHOLE plan of Salvation.  Not my words......the Bible's.

Jesus answered, Verily, Verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit (Holy Ghost), he CANNOT enter into the Kingdom of God.  John 3:5

Therefore we are buried with Him by Baptism into death; that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the Glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.  Romans 6:4

Buried with Him in Baptism, wherein also ye are risen with Him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised Him from the dead.  Colossians 2:12

[Annella]

Amy actually quoted the correct verse.

[Annella]

I believe the only way you get into heaven is if you are baptized, among other things.

I believe they were copying this when they posted that, Sheryl. The citing of The Acts verse has nothing to do with going to heaven. It is receiving the Holy Spirit and therefore salvation. Even the gentiles received the Holy Ghost, so that is not 'proof' of going to heaven. Baptism has nothing to do with going to heaven either. Nowhere does the bible say do this ceremony and you will receive salvation and get into heaven. Salvation is supposed to come from faith, not from faith and then a ceremony someone goes through.

Let me put it this way: if baptism is necessary for salvation then anyone who 'receives Christ' on his deathbed in a hospital, etc. would go to hell if they don't get baptized before they die. Also, if baptism is necessary for salvation, then all babies who die go to hell since they weren't all baptized.

Very good analysis of baptism!

Wrong.

The Bible is very clear what the "plan" of Salvation is.  The very reason for obtaining Salvation is to prepare us for Heaven.  Just because you are baptized, and receive the Holy Ghost, is not a guarantee for Heaven either, but it gets you "ready".  Then comes living the life of a believer.  If I accepted Christ, and then went back to my old ways of living and sinning, what newness of life is there?  Millions "accept" the Lord Jesus Christ, but go no further.  It takes change and commitment to live for God, and people don't want to pay the price.  It's so much easier to kick back and "coast", than to actually live or stand up for your beliefs.  The concept of once saved always saved is not scriptural.

[shernajwine]

I agree with what you're saying Annella, about once saved always saved. I believe that baptism is extremely important, but I also remember that the criminal being crucified next to Jesus wasn't baptized and Jesus said he would be with him in paradise. Baptism is necessary for the infilling of the Holy Spirit, but the bible says any who call on the name of Jesus will be saved. Acceptance of Christ is salvation, baptism is the next step in receiving power, to live the life God called us to live.

I know there are many people in my church, I don't know about my pastor, but they believe without the baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues, you can't go to heaven. And I just don't believe that. The man on the cross next to Jesus is a prime example. Why does he get to be an exception and we don't? My husband has been seeking baptism in the Holy Spirit for years, he has been baptized in the name of Jesus....he loves God...but God would send him to hell because he doesn't speak in tongues?? I don't think so.

You have people that accept Christ but are ignorant to the importance of baptism. They believe they are saved without it, but they die. Does God send them to hell?? No. I don't believe that for a sec. We are judged according to what we know, adult, baby, teenager...it doesn't matter. Mentally challenged people, who don't understand....tribal peoples who are not exposed to evangelism....these people are not exempt from heaven because they were never baptized, they are judged by what they know to be right because God has given every man a moral compass so to speak. It's when salvation is presented, understood and rejected that a person is held responsible for that rejection.

[Annella]

I agree with what you're saying Annella, about once saved always saved. I believe that baptism is extremely important, but I also remember that the criminal being crucified next to Jesus wasn't baptized and Jesus said he would be with him in paradise. Baptism is necessary for the infilling of the Holy Spirit, but the bible says any who call on the name of Jesus will be saved. Acceptance of Christ is salvation, baptism is the next step in receiving power, to live the life God called us to live.

I know there are many people in my church, I don't know about my pastor, but they believe without the baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues, you can't go to heaven. And I just don't believe that. The man on the cross next to Jesus is a prime example. Why does he get to be an exception and we don't? My husband has been seeking baptism in the Holy Spirit for years, he has been baptized in the name of Jesus....he loves God...but God would send him to hell because he doesn't speak in tongues?? I don't think so.

You have people that accept Christ but are ignorant to the importance of baptism. They believe they are saved without it, but they die. Does God send them to hell?? No. I don't believe that for a sec. We are judged according to what we know, adult, baby, teenager...it doesn't matter. Mentally challenged people, who don't understand....tribal peoples who are not exposed to evangelism....these people are not exempt from heaven because they were never baptized, they are judged by what they know to be right because God has given every man a moral compass so to speak. It's when salvation is presented, understood and rejected that a person is held responsible for that rejection.

First of all, the thief on the cross was still under the Law.  Jesus had not made the ultimate sacrifice yet, so the baptism of the water and Spirit could not be applied there.  Since Almighty God manifested in the flesh was hanging next to him, He could promise him Paradise.  Remember that under the OT Law, sins were not remitted, but rolled ahead each year on the Day of Atonement.  The sacrifice of blood of the Lamb of God (Jesus) ushered in the birth of the church and a "Salvation Plan" (Acts 2:38).  John baptized unto repentance.  Before that, there was no baptism being performed.  Since John the Baptist (Jesus cousin) was the forerunner to proclaim Jesus ministry on the earth, he introduced Baptism for repentance, but that still wasn't the Baptism of "remission" of sins.  Remission is erasing them forever.  Never before possible without the shedding of Jesus Blood.  How could the man on the cross receive the Holy Ghost?  The Holy Ghost had not yet been "poured out", until Jesus was dead and buried and rose again.  He was still under the LAW of the OT.

As far as your husband seeking the Holy Ghost and in danger of not getting it and going to hell?  God knows all hearts and if your husbands heart is seeking God with all sincerity, then the ultimate Judge is God.  Yes, the Bible does say that those who call upon the Lord shall be saved, but that's not the whole Salvation in it's whole.  You know you can't just take one scripture and base everything on that.  You must take all the Salvational scriptures and  reveal the "what" we MUST do to be saved.

I did not write that you MUST be born of the Water and Spirit to enter the Kingdom of Heaven......it's Bible.  There are those that are mentally challenged who do not understand.  I believe God has a place for them.  For the rest of us, your right, we will be judged on what we know.  No one can stand before God and say I didn't know when they have easy access to scriptures.

If we do know, and reject it, then we are in trouble.  Many people will hear and believe, but do nothing.  We have a just God.  He holds all power.  I'm not the judge.  I can only do what the Word of God says.  If you know that having the Holy Ghost is a requirement for Salvation, and reject it, then you are in danger of being lost.  The plan of Salvation in it's fullness is clear.  The Bible says a wayfaring man need not err therein.  In other words, it's there for all to see.  There are those that have a form of religion but deny the power thereof (Holy Ghost).  There are a lot of people being deceived into thinking they are saved, or they have chosen to be halfway, because they don't want to pay the "price".  A lot of people want a "feel good" religion that requires nothing but lip service, and still maintain a sinful lifestyle.  That..........is not a Christian.  That is a luke warm experience, with no transforming power.  Sherna, you've been in the church long enough to know what I'm talking about.  Christianity takes work and commitment.  Some do not want to commit to the whole plan, even though they see it.

Taking about the man on the cross being the exception, well, he was, because he did not need the Holy Ghost to make it to Heaven.  The Holy Ghost had not been poured out yet.  You don't fully comprehend the types and shadows of the OT to the new.  There was no "remission" of sins before the shedding of blood on the cross.  There was no Holy Ghost until Jesus died, rose again, and then came back manifested in the power of the Holy Ghost.  Remember Jesus said the Comforter would not come until He go. The Holy Ghost is Christ in us the hope of Glory.

I'm only giving you Bible Sherna.