Shernajwine, I've said it before and I'll say it again. You are a new Christian and need to talk to your Pastor before you post something that you don't understand. It can be dangerous, and can upset people tremendously.
My pastor is actually the one that taught me this. Unforgiveness is forgivable when you forgive. You can't ask God for forgiveness until you have forgiven others. God WILL NOT forgive you until you have yourself forgiven others, that's in the scriptures. Therefore, unforgiveness is unforgivable. No it's not a permanent condition. Now my pastor says it alot more eloquently than I do but that's the bare knuckles of it. I posted on another thread....I'm not a new christian.
Annella, I appreciate the wisdom you bring to the forum and I also appreciate the patience you have shown marie, where I have not....but I'm not so appreciative that you assume I'm "new" simply because I said something you disagree with. I'm not a theologian and there is certainly PLENTY that I don't know, but I'm off spiritual milk and have been for quite some time. I feel a little patronized here.... I said something you disagree with and you send me off to a higher authority (my pastor) with a pat on the head and an admonition to watch my mouth and do not speak of things to which I have no knowledge. It's not an insult to be a baby in the Lord but it's an insult when you assume I am just because you disagree with me.
Sorry, but I had no intention of being patronizing. I'm going back to the post you made last month about just starting a Oneness church. You said that you had questions about the Oneness. You also made mention that the atheistic view made sense to you, so you studied it out. I took it that you were new, and not Spirit filled yet and still looking for answers? If I'm wrong.....I apologize
Your more than welcome to disagree. What I should have said was, study it out for yourself. Take your Pastor's teaching, and your understanding, my teaching, and the Bible, and get your own answers. You do study things out...which is good. When you look into the subject of the unpardonable sin, you have to go to the Bible where Jesus is talking about it, and study it (Matthew 12 starting with the 22nd verse). Your more than welcome to print out these posts and show them to your Pastor.
You are correct in a sense...unforgiveness is based on forgiving others as we want to be forgiven, but it's not the
unpardonable sin of blasphemy which
cannot be forgiven, in this life or the next. Now we can all be lost for holding onto unforgiveness, pride, hatred, malice, etc. However, those all have a chance of being repented of and being forgiven by God. They are not the
unpardonable (no forgiveness at all) sin of blasphemy. Maybe what your Pastor taught is that the unforgiveness can lead to blasphemy. There is blasphemy in the Bible that can be forgiven, but this unpardonable blasphemy is a sin unto itself.
I'm very careful of this because I've dealt with many people in counseling where the enemy has made them to believe they had committed this sin. It wrecks them. Then they're scared to tell anyone, because of being an outcast, etc. etc. It can snowball into an irrational fear. Sin is sin to God (lying, cheating, stealing, murder, etc.), but the Lord made sure he broke the unpardonable sin out, to let us know there is NO forgiveness for IT.
We just can't take a sin out and call it unpardonable. Unforgiveness is no more the number 1 sin than say murder. Sin is sin. I think I know what you Pastor is getting at though. Unforgiveness can lead to not being forgiven. Undersood, and that is Bible. However, it's not unpardonable, it can be reversed. The unpardonable sin can
NEVER be reversed. There's a difference.